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Barack Obama Elected President!

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http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10449529?source=most_emailed

Palin asked Schwarzenegger to veto port-fee bill

IA.

Obama will make a great president. :)

I heard about her request yesterday and what benefts Alaska certainly doesn't benefit California and since I don't live in Alaska, then I'm all for his telling her uh no. Smog and other unhealthy air quality issues need to be addressed and since she'll probably be pushing for offshore drilling here to compound matters then she should understand that our governor answers to us and not her...so nice try.

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I do.

Any idea why Charlie didn't adopt that tact with Obama when he first interviewed him during the primaries? That really would have been the time to find out Obama's positions and world views...

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Any idea why Charlie didn't adopt that tact with Obama when he first interviewed him during the primaries? That really would have been the time to find out Obama's positions and world views...

I speculated earlier in response to this question that maybe at the time of the primaries that wasn't Gibson's focus since he may have felt he would have opportunities down the road. He may have thought that Obama would not make it out of the primaries. Who knows?

He still has time to ask Obama the same questions if he chooses and there's still a difference between asking during the primaries (and knowing that there is more time to do in depths with the candidates) and asking the new kid on the block who could be elected to the position of VP in a matter of weeks and could have her finger on the button, so to speak, in a matter of months.

I don't know what makes Charles Gibson tick or what would make him spend more time worrying about a flag pin at a debate than real issues.

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The Seattle Times notes that as governor, Palin hasn’t taken advantage of easy and obvious opportunities for friendly relations with Russia just across the Bering Sea.

Washington deals directly with foreign relations, not Juneau. I would not expect Palin to be inviting friends across the Bering Strait over for weenie roasts. However, it would be an appropriate expectation that the Governor of Alaska would need to be aware of certain security issues given the proximity of US territory to the lands of a foreign power, particularly one that has grown increasingly unfriendly to us the past few years. I would expect the Governor of Florida would be aware of specific issues relating to Cuba, for example. I'll imagine the governors of states bordering Mexico, like my state, are briefed routinely by officials in Washington on issues relating to security, especially given the violent drug wars possibly spilling onto US soil.

Frankly, I look at the roles of these governors to be more intimately involved in the dealings of sensitive foreign policy issues based on their proximity to possible hot spots -- and certainly as aware of such issues as those sitting on a committee in some stuffy Washington meeting room.

Just a thought.

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I am just using this as an example. Whenever there is a story that quotes numbers like 55% said this and whatnot, I really would like to know how many people were polled and where they came from. I will process it, but I don't necessarily agree with it because it could be 300 people polled or 3000 polled. Big difference.

Hi Tishy...

This national survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted by Rasmussen Reports on September 3, 2008. The margin of sampling error for each survey is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.

Rasmussen Reports is an electronic publishing firm specializing in the collection, publication, and distribution of public opinion polling information.]

I linked to it... this information was at the end of the quoted story on the source page. Rasmussen is considered fairly reliable and nonpartisan. Then again, anyone could dispute that fact, too... :D Whenever I don't like their poll results, I always claim they are bias. When I like what I see... I'm impressed by their fairness. LOL!!

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Washington deals directly with foreign relations, not Juneau. I would not expect Palin to be inviting friends across the Bering Strait over for weenie roasts. However, it would be an appropriate expectation that the Governor of Alaska would need to be aware of certain security issues given the proximity of US territory to the lands of a foreign power, particularly one that has grown increasingly unfriendly to us the past few years. I would expect the Governor of Florida would be aware of specific issues relating to Cuba, for example. I'll imagine the governors of states bordering Mexico, like my state, are briefed routinely by officials in Washington on issues relating to security, especially given the violent drug wars possibly spilling onto US soil.

Frankly, I look at the roles of these governors to be more intimately involved in the dealings of sensitive foreign policy issues based on their proximity to possible hot spots -- and certainly as aware of such issues as those sitting on a committee in some stuffy Washington meeting room.

Just a thought.

It's not unusual for governors or mayors to make goodwill or partnership trips to other countries. Even though I think he should be concerned about running the city, the mayor of Los Angeles has done it. He took a ctrip to Israel that focused on counterterrorism and green technology.

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Hi Tishy...

This national survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted by Rasmussen Reports on September 3, 2008. The margin of sampling error for each survey is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.

Rasmussen Reports is an electronic publishing firm specializing in the collection, publication, and distribution of public opinion polling information.]

I linked to it... this information was at the end of the quoted story on the source page. Rasmussen is considered fairly reliable and nonpartisan. Then again, anyone could dispute that fact, too... :D Whenever I don't like their poll results, I always claim they are bias. When I like what I see... I'm impressed by their fairness. LOL!!

Hey thanks, I don't know how I missed that.

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Washington deals directly with foreign relations, not Juneau. I would not expect Palin to be inviting friends across the Bering Strait over for weenie roasts. However, it would be an appropriate expectation that the Governor of Alaska would need to be aware of certain security issues given the proximity of US territory to the lands of a foreign power, particularly one that has grown increasingly unfriendly to us the past few years. I would expect the Governor of Florida would be aware of specific issues relating to Cuba, for example. I'll imagine the governors of states bordering Mexico, like my state, are briefed routinely by officials in Washington on issues relating to security, especially given the violent drug wars possibly spilling onto US soil.

Frankly, I look at the roles of these governors to be more intimately involved in the dealings of sensitive foreign policy issues based on their proximity to possible hot spots -- and certainly as aware of such issues as those sitting on a committee in some stuffy Washington meeting room.

Just a thought.

Like John McCain has been doing for 25 years.

It's not unusual for governors or mayors to make goodwill or partnership trips to other countries. Even though I think he should be concerned about running the city, the mayor of Los Angeles has done it. He took a ctrip to Israel that focused on counterterrorism and green technology.

But see, that doesn't qualify because he is not a Republican.

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Tishy.

Even though I had no problem with the quote (as noted above), it is very nice of you to be sensitive to Casey on that issue.

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Like John McCain has been doing for 25 years.

But see, that doesn't qualify because he is not a Republican.

Maybe it would even help if I were talking about a woman but that requires some research. I know Gov. Kathleen Sebelius has done some traveling overseas but I don't know the nature of her trips.

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I have to disagree. Carter and Bush were both Governors..they had executive experience.

Johnson did have more experience than Kennedy, I agree with you there, but look at how that turned out..I see a lot of similarities between Obama/Biden and Kennedy/Johnson.

Kennedy was the first ever Catholic to become president. In those days that was as ground-breaking as Obama being African-American.

OK, call me McCain, since I'm not technologically gifted enough to offer the entire discussion, but this is what irritates me lately about you Casey.

First you ask for any other situations where the VP has more experience than the POTUS to be (with, I might add, the assumption this is rare and unlikely)

Then Jess posts several examples.

But then you are not pleased enough with those examples and you shift the argument. Well, now you want to talk about the "kind" of experience...

This is why you are occasionally hard to hold a discussion with, but I do find it to be something lately, as much much earlier in this thread, I was very pleased to see your side of things as a McCain supporter. I thought you came across much more civil. I don't know if certain posters have irritated you, or you've become more exasperated as the election season goes on, or even if you feel piled-up on here as one of the few McCain supporters.

You complain about wanting answers, but when they are given to you, you are not "happy" with the answers you receive; you find fault with them.

So I guess I'm "attacking" you here. Whatever.

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The last time I checked, I thought I could respond in a manner I saw fit.

Or do we live in Russia now? Palin wouldn't know......she's never been over there.

So I'll respond the way I want.

Thank you.

I never said you COULDN'T respond the way you wanted. But if you're gonna take issue with facts I present or statements I make, then at least address directly those facts or statements. I look at any other type of a response as a dodge because you apparently can't refute what I've offered up. If you don't wish to debate the point, then maybe concede the point, but please don't argue with me just for the sake of arguing... It's depressing and creates a conflict I otherwise don't wish to have with you...

Thanks...

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It's not unusual for governors or mayors to make goodwill or partnership trips to other countries. Even though I think he should be concerned about running the city, the mayor of Los Angeles has done it. He took a ctrip to Israel that focused on counterterrorism and green technology.

Wales, I was going to respond, but didn't know what to say. So, I'll just say "howdy!" :D Too late to hit the "back" button... heheheh

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Hopefully this link works and you can see how fun Obama waffles are:

http://www.verizon.net/newsroom/portals/ne...article=1286773

I'm editing this to try to add a picture of the front of the box in case someone can't see the article. This is the kind of thing that some people find offensive but I guess when it's being sold at a conservative political forum then it's all in good fun.

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