This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

I understand what you are saying, but if the SD's voted by that logic they will anger alot of people, not only is obama leading in overall delegates he is leading in the popular vote. I don't think they would risk having people sit out this voting season or worst vote for McCain because they wouldn't give the nom to obama. I think there will be more of an outcry for injustince if they don't give it to the person that is leading overall then 1/3 of hillary supporters sitting out this race or voting for McCain if obama is the nom.

Some don't see it that way.

They would rather ruin the party and give Hillary what she wants instead of thinking about the big picture.

If she wouldn't have ran a bad campaign, and wouldn't have been so arrogant, and would be leading in all the categories, who could argue with giving her the nom?

But she's not. She's behind and her campaign is broke. And the peson leading shouldn't get the nom? I mean, where is the logic in that? That would mean that no matter how the people voted in each state, it wouldn't matter, because the few in the back room would make the decision. How is that being a party of the people?

I just want to know does every vote count.......or do only the votes count if your candidate is winning?

Where have I heard this all before? Oh yeah in the Days thread...and ever other thread posters dont agree with you.

LOL you got a point

^^^^How in the world was I being negative, I responded to your posts, I thought we were having a civilized posts?

If she wouldn't have ran a bad campaign, and wouldn't have been so arrogant, and would be leading in all the categories, who could argue with giving her the nom?

The one category that matters the most (all of them matter, of course) is who is more formidable against McCain and beating him by more..that is Hillary. I hope SDs look at that to make sure they vote for who can win it by more.

^^^^How in the world was I being negative, I responded to your posts, I thought we were having a civilized posts?

You were with saying all of this stuff about the SDs voting for the one in second place. They might as well if she is beating McCain by more than the first place one.

I just saw it as negative, you did not...let's leave it there.

Do you have a problem with that?

No problem with it at all. But when posters start heckling someone else for adoring Hilary...well it bugs the hell out of me. Seriously, so what if Hilary is losing...do you have to GLOAT over it every post ....DO YOU??

Edited May 14, 200817 yr by Soapsuds

You were with saying all of this stuff about the SDs voting for the one in second place. They might as well if she is beating McCain by more than the first place one.

I just saw it as negative, you did not...let's leave it there.

Well I'm sorry if you saw it as negative. I still like hillary and I hope there is a way that she can be vp or president some day.

No problem with it at all. But when posters start heckling someone else for adoring Hilary...well it bugs the hell out of me.

Good thing I didn't ask you if it bugged you or not.

No problem with it at all. But when posters start heckling someone else for adoring Hilary...well it bugs the hell out of me.

I see someone else saw it the way I did, hence why I wrote what I did...I have nothing against any posters here but don't start raining in on parades. I have never done that for Obama victories

I still like hillary and I hope there is a way that she can be vp or president some day.

On that we agree

And Roman I wouldnt Gloat too much. There are reports Obama is in trouble if he cant get the right people to vote for him against McCain. So McCain might reign on your party.

Edited May 14, 200817 yr by Soapsuds

The one category that matters the most (all of them matter, of course) is who is more formidable against McCain and beating him by more..that is Hillary. I hope SDs look at that to make sure they vote for who can win it by more.

It sounds like your argument changes depending on what is going on.

Let me put it this way.

You and a co-worker are up for a job. You both have 30 days to prove who is better, and whoever has the betternumbers gets the position. So, you come in on time, do your job and get the better numbers. Your co-worker comes in late every single day, slacks off and comes in second.

But your other co-workers take a poll, and since they judge that he could be a better supervisor than you, he/she gets the position.

Now, by your logic......that is fair, right?

And Roman I wouldnt Gloat too much. There are reports Obama is in trouble if he cant get the right people to vote for him against McCain. So McCain might reign on your party.

They said something about him having trouble with working class and senior citizens

It sounds like your argument changes depending on what is going on.

Let me put it this way.

You and a co-worker are up for a job. You both have 30 days to prove who is better, and whoever has the betternumbers gets the position. So, you come in on time, do your job and get the better numbers. Your co-worker comes in late every single day, slacks off and comes in second.

But your other co-workers take a poll, and since they judge that he could be a better supervisor than you, he/she gets the position.

Now, by your logic......that is fair, right?

We are talking about being more formidable, not how one is more punctual and more professional

They said something about him having trouble with working class and senior citizens

He has had that problem since the beginning of the race. That is one of his weak points. But hopefully when the dem. nom is finally decided all dems will come together to prevent Bush III.