This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

I read that Obama is dangling the VP carrot to try and get Hillary to quit.

He also told all his peeps to not say anything bad about her.

At this point unless she takes VP somone with stroke is going to have to step up and stop this thing.

This is what I'm now starting to think.

He maybe letting her stay in and is not pushing her because, if she gets desperate, she will stick her foot in her mouth and really make a fool of herself.

Then the SDs won't have a choice but to back him and force her out.......and if you read that article from CNN and the interview in USAToday, it may have already started.

She has the nerve to talk about voting principals when she signed a deal saying their votes wouldn't count?!

The damn nerve.

I guess that tell everyone what her word is worth. She signed an agreement and back out of that agreement.

Wales I love that: It is MY WHITE HOUSE GIVE IT TO ME!!!!

Well, I'm a white female catholic. I wish I had known that I was supposed to vote for Hillary. I guess Hillary will convince me that I am a black male protestant now, much like she is convincing every one that she is winning the primary.

Oh no.

Don't you know? I think the new slogan is if you lose states, you have momentum.

Or is it if you lose states and you're HRC you have momentum?

They change their damn talking points so much I forget.

Now she's saying she's the only one who can get white people to vote for her.

Didn't know there were that many black people in the 32 states that Obama won.

That bullshit.

Oh no.

Don't you know? I think the new slogan is if you lose states, you have momentum.

Or is it if you lose states and you're HRC you have momentum?

They change their damn talking points so much I forget.

Now she's saying she's the only one who can get white people to vote for her.

Didn't know there were that many black people in the 32 states that Obama won.

That bullshit.

I watched Hardball for the first time in my life. Wolfson told Chris Matthews (who laughed and asked him if he is serious) that she plans to use the Puerto Rican results as part of her argument that she is the one. CM verified that they know that PR cannot vote in the general election and will not count in the popular vote but it will still be part of their argument.

Well, I'm a white female catholic. I wish I had known that I was supposed to vote for Hillary. I guess Hillary will convince me that I am a black male protestant now, much like she is convincing every one that she is winning the primary.

Look at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if she started moving her things in right now and claimed squatters' rights or whatever else she can.

One of the Newsweek analysts is suggesting that she's planning to shake Obama down for the veep spot by threatening to take the fight to the convention floor. If she is then he should tell her to go right ahead. I don't think they should compromise with her at all now. She basically weakened her position and since she can't insist on a debate now then she's probably hoping for some major slip to take place or the SDs to give her what she wants.

John Edwards' former campaign manager Bonior is now supporting Obama and because Time put him on the cover as the presumptive nominee, she will have to go demand equal coverage from them.

Look at this rate I wouldn't be surprised if she started moving her things in right now and claimed squatters' rights or whatever else she can.

One of the Newsweek analysts is suggesting that she's planning to shake Obama down for the veep spot by threatening to take the fight to the convention floor. If she is then he should tell her to go right ahead. I don't think they should compromise with her at all now. She basically weakened her position and since she can't insist on a debate now then she's probably hoping for some major slip to take place or the SDs to give her what she wants.

John Edwards' former campaign manager Bonior is now supporting Obama and because Time put him on the cover as the presumptive nominee, she will have to go demand equal coverage from them.

Yep and then she will show a poll and say look, I'm leading in this poll. That means I get to be president.

Hillary's only chance now is to cut a deal with Obama and take VP.

Hillary being VP would give McCain tons of stuff to hit Obama with but this thing needs to end and if giving Hillary the VP will do it Obama needs to do it.

Plus it's the best way to heal the party ,but if Obama won the Whitehouse with the Clintons as joint Vp's he could never sleep with both eyes closed for the rest of his life.

I would totally worry that some crazy (Yes Obama has them too) supporter would try to kill Obama so Clinton could be Prez!

I'm sorry, but after the comments she made about race in USA Today, there is now no way I would except Obama having her on the same ticket with him.

She can kiss the F off for all I care now.

I would totally worry that some crazy (Yes Obama has them too) supporter would try to kill Obama so Clinton could be Prez!

That is what I am afraid of as well. If Obama is president, something terrible might happen to him...I don't want to see something like that happen.

I like your idea of them on the ticket, South. I am willing to accept Hillary as VP if she can't be president...in just eight years, we would have her as president and I don't see her retiring at age 69. It would heal the party and unite both camps 100%. As I have said before, it would be smart of Obama to pick her for VP since she knows how to respond to GOP smears (which they will obviously do) and 30% of her supporters will go for McCain if she is not on as VP. Obama is smart enough not to take that risk...with her on, that number of 30% could possibly cut down to 0 or just a minimal number but it would not impact the election enough for the Democrats to lose.

Edited May 9, 200817 yr by DevotedToAMC

I can't believe someone tried to strong arm Nancy Pelosi, she is not the type to give into to that type of thing. This is making the clintons look too pathetic, who are they gonna threaten next obsama bin laden?

Well Pelosi should go for Hillary because Hillary won California and Pelosi represents a CA district...not sure if her district went for Obama but I doubt it

Like I said.........

He doesn't need her. I don't care what percentage of voters who said they would vote for McCain.

And what kills me is that I haven't heard from these same people about Obama supporters who either would vote for McCain OR STAY AT HOME in November if she steals this thing.

Oh, so sorry. Obama supporters don't matter. His supporters will except anything.

We should just say "Pretty please, Hillary. Please run with Barack......even though your negative number is THROUGH THE ROOF."

Let's discuss other VP candidates BESIDES Hillary.........you know, ones whose negative ratings are much lower than hers.

I can't believe someone tried to strong arm Nancy Pelosi, she is not the type to give into to that type of thing. This is making the clintons look too pathetic, who are they gonna threaten next obsama bin laden?

Those who have no shame don't care what they do. If Pelosi would have given in to that crap, she might have been voted out the next time she ran for her senate seat.

He doesn't need her. I don't care what percentage of voters who said they would vote for McCain.

And what kills me is that I haven't heard from these same people about Obama supporters who either would vote for McCain OR STAY AT HOME in November if she steals this thing.

Oh, so sorry. Obama supporters don't matter. His supporters will except anything.

We should just say "Pretty please, Hillary. Please run with Barack......even though your negative number is THROUGH THE ROOF."

Let's discuss other VP candidates BESIDES Hillary.........you know, ones whose negative ratings are much lower than hers.

I would say he needs her if almost a third of her supporters will go for McCain. He can prevent that third from voting for McBush. I have said before that the numbers for Obama supporters going for McCain if Hillary is the nominee is much lower at 14%. That is still a big number as well so they pretty much need each other if you ask me.

Where are you getting this idea that his supporters don't matter? I have always said here what the numbers look like for those who will go for McCain if Hillary gets the nomination. She won't steal anything but win the nomination since she is, for now, more formidable against McCain and is winning the states that matter along with pulling in the right groups necessary to win (Latinos/Hispanics, Asians, younger people are now for her, Seniors, blue collar workers).

If you want a good VP candidate besides her, I guess John Edwards or Bill Richardson would work...but neither one will erase the 30% going for McCain if she is not on the ticket

Those who have no shame don't care what they do. If Pelosi would have given in to that crap, she might have been voted out the next time she ran for her senate seat.

Pelosi is not a U.S. Senator...she is a U.S. Congresswoman representing San Francisco County. She is up for re election this November and is facing Cindy Sheehan on the Independent ticket. I cannot see Pelosi losing if she had given in to anything because she has won the district in many elections by 80% or more. She is very popular in the CA 8th district

Edited May 9, 200817 yr by DevotedToAMC