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Roman Apprentice

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And now, back to something substansive, instead of talking about birth certificate bullshit:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...e-for-congress/

Democrats widen lead in battle for Congress

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...-palin-meeting/

McCain camp tries to keep reporters out of Palin meetings

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...-tax-loopholes/

Ad Biden called 'terrible' only ran six times

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...-ran-six-times/

Ad Biden called 'terrible' only ran six times

It shouldn't have ran once, IMO.

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I'll go a little further with you on this because I'm having one of those days where I can dabble in the exremely insignifcant stuff.

I think the birth certificate aspect has been debunked. The burden of proof is on the plaintiff and from what you have posted, it does not sound as if he has any solid proof that Obama was not born in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Besides the school registration (which is not proof) what proof exists that Obama was adopted by his stepfather? What proof exists that Obama's mother obtained Indonesian citizenship for him? What proof exists that Barack Obama's name was legally changed? What are the requirements for registration in the school he attended in Indonesia? And if you cannot prove that Obama wasn't born in the U.S., how do you know whether or not he has dual citizenship?

If McCain were scheduled to testify in the same type of friviolous lawsuit, what would make it news and why would McCain need to testify anyway? Anyone can file a lawsuit against you and you are required to file an answer within a specified period of time. A lawsuit doesn't make anything factual. The reason no one sees this as a legitimate issue is not the lawsuit but the basis for it. If there were something to it then it would receive media coverage and then it would be masquerading as an issue. Now it's nothing.

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The Obama isn't an American thing is just total garbage.

You know the ad that Biden criticized was garbage. Several of us said that. Of course, many of McCain's ads have been garbage and the McCain garbage has been far stinker than an ad making fun of McCain because he can't use the internet. I'm glad Obama has fought back, but I'm ready now for him to return to the issues, The nasty ads are backfiring on McCain in my opinion, and I think they are going to start backfiring on Obama too.

As far as Biden saying it, on the one hand I think it proves that Biden is a loose cannon and I really wish he would know the difference between what belongs on television and what would be better kept at the kitchen table. I guess it is a little refreshing that Obama does trust Biden enough to not put him on a leash. On the other hand, Biden should really be more disciplined. Obviously the fact that the ad only ran six times reflects that the campaign leaders probably backed off of it as quick as it appeared.

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I agree with everything you have written here, Jess.

I would add that it isn't just Biden that is undisciplined, though... I think the Obama campaign is stumbling big time. And I think that some dark days are ahead for the campaign. I just have this feeling that there is some dirt out there and someone has it, ready to drop it in October...

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I'll make this my last comment on this subject, because it seems everyone is in agreement that this is bullshit or insignificant..

I don't know what the exact proof is that Berg plans to stipulate in court.

You're right in that the burden of proof is on the plantiff, and evidently the judge seeing this case felt that the evidence was measurable enough to constitute a trial. The judge does have the authority to deny any motions or requests for trial.

You're probably right. As I said before, I don't know what to believe yet. I think time will tell.

False accusations or not, I am still interested in Obama's testimony and the judgement...This could erupt into a huge story if the judge wants to become famous...

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Roman, I think you may have missed the posts I made earlier in the day today..I posted an article that covered the financial crisis, and the Democrat's connection.

What are your thoughts on that topic?

I dont want to be included with the "those that can only push..the black man is not American" crowd..

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I can only assume this post is talking about me, since it addresses all of the items I addressed in a previous post. If not, I apologize.

Tone is so hard to "read" on a message board. The "we" talking about same sex marriage and abortion is "we," as a nation, not "we" on this chatboard. For the most part, I think we stay out of the muck here. However, in the public at large, people are voting on items that are inconsequential in the long run.

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"I think we're going to be up very late counting votes," Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., told a kettle of lawyers Tuesday night at a fundraiser for the Democratic Victory Fund hosted by the American Association of Justice in Washington, D.C. "And so, your help means a big deal. The last help we need you for, is you're the best legal minds in the country. We're going to need you going into election time, because we're going to mobilize thousands of lawyers to make sure they don't steal another election."

"He has never, never, never, never, never, never, never shared the values set that you share," Biden said. "He's an honorable, decent man, but John McCain truly believes, truly believes that you are corporate America's problem," he said to the trial lawyers. "And thank God you are."

Biden said that he's "done more than any other senator combined" for trial lawyers.

"There are two people -- you've heard me say it before -- two groups that stand between us and the barbarians at the gate," Biden said. "It's you and organized labor. That's it. That is it. So, mark my words, mark my words, if we lose this election, you are going to continue to see a continuation of the onslaught on everything we care about. For real. For real. So, I'm not only thanking you for your help. I would think you're all absolutely brain-dead if you didn't help. And I mean it."

>>sigh<< OMG, will somebody shut this jackass up already!!!

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Joe Biden continued his one-man Gaffemaster routine last night while being interviewed by Katie Couric at CBS. He attempted to discuss real leadership in the face of financial catastrophe, and reached back to the brilliant example of FDR and his televised speeches during the 1929 stock-market crash.

“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed,” Biden told Couric. “He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’”

How ignorant is this statement? Let me count the ways:

Franklin Roosevelt didn’t become president in 1929 during the crash. He won the 1932 election and took office in 1933, largely because of the 1929 crash and the incompetent protectionist policies that transformed it into a Great Depression.

If FDR and President Herbert Hoover didn’t talk about the “princes of greed” in 1929, by the time FDR took over, that kind of populist rhetoric had certainly taken root. FDR greatly escalated the scope of federal government to institute the kind of redistributionism that Obama and Biden now champion.

If Hoover or FDR appeared on television in 1929 or even 1933, only a few hundred people would have seen it. Television was still an experimental medium and wouldn’t be introduced to the public for at least another decade.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/23/bide...the-1929-crash/

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Roman Apprentice

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Then.....

1. Why did you push that BS as hard as you did?

2. I have posted, in several posts, that the Repubs. AND Dems are to blame for this. Maybe you were alittle busy and didn't see that. :)

And who do YOU feel is to blame for this?

Please answer that question for me. Thanks. :)

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