Members Queen_Nubia Posted April 19, 2007 Members Share Posted April 19, 2007 wow.....he sounds a bit out of control....especially calling his child a thoughtless ass and a vile little pig.... http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/0419_baldwin.mp3 Alec Baldwin's Threatening Message to Daughter Posted Apr 19th 2007 2:57PM by TMZ Staff Filed under: Celebrity Justice, Celebrity Feuds An enraged Alec Baldwin unleashed a volcanic tirade of threats and insults on his 11-year-old daughter, Ireland, calling her a "thoughtless little pig," and bashing her mother Kim Basinger -- and TMZ has obtained the whole thing unfiltered and raw. And, we've learned, the tape could cost Baldwin his visitation rights. After Ireland failed to answer her father's scheduled morning phone call from New York on April 11, Alec went bersek on her voice mail, saying "Once again, I have made an ass of myself trying to get to a phone," adding, "you have insulted me for the last time." Switching his train of thought, Baldwin then exercised his incredible parenting skills and took a shot at his ex-wife, declaring, "I don't give a damn that you're 12-years-old or 11-years-old, or a child, or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn't care about what you do." The irate Baldwin went on to say, "You've made me feel like s**t" and threatened to "straighten your ass out." "This crap you pull on me with this goddamn phone situation that you would never dream of doing to your mother," screamed Baldwin, "and you do it to me constantly over and over again." Before hanging up, Baldwin warned the child, "You better be ready Friday the 20th to meet with me." That's tomorrow. We've learned that on Wednesday, Los Angeles County Superior Court commissioner Maren Nelson heard the tape and temporarily suspended Baldwin's visitation rights. A hearing is set for May 4, where the judge could permanently deny Baldwin visitation or contact with Ireland. Calls to Basinger's attorneys, celebrity lawyers Neal Hersh and Judy Bogen, were not returned. Baldwin's lawyer, Vicki Greene, told TMZ, "Whatever happened yesterday was sealed and confidential. What you're telling me you've got you shouldn't have." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted April 19, 2007 Members Share Posted April 19, 2007 I think what he said was out of line, but that was a private conversation between him and his daughter. It should not have been leaked to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Q Steph Posted April 19, 2007 Members Share Posted April 19, 2007 I'm glad it was leaked. He is clearly an abusive parent. He should not be allowed vistiation if this is how he relates to an 11 year old. Too many times these incidents are swept under the rug but now it's out there for everyone to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sweet_VeeVee24 Posted April 19, 2007 Members Share Posted April 19, 2007 As private as that conversation was, it shows that Alec should not be near his daughter until he gets his anger issues in check. Whether by phone or face to face, I agree that this is abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shawn Posted April 19, 2007 Members Share Posted April 19, 2007 I agree wholeheartedly. It's invasion of privacy. Plain and simple. And what 11 year old girl records her phone calls? Sounds like a ploy by Kim to catch Alex in a bad situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rhiannon Posted April 19, 2007 Members Share Posted April 19, 2007 Holy Moly........ Poor Ireland....... I'm pretty sure that was a voice mail and not a recorded phone call...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shawn Posted April 19, 2007 Members Share Posted April 19, 2007 Either way, it doesn't mean abuse. IMO. People have bad days. They can get frustrated. My mother used to call me and my sister "little ungrateful bastards" when we acted up. She also said "I'm gonna beat your asses" if we kept it up. She was, and is FAR from abusive. She was a typical parent who sometimes just couldn't take anymore. Millions of people are like that. Why not Alec Baldwin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Q Steph Posted April 19, 2007 Members Share Posted April 19, 2007 Alec has a history of "bad days" though. It was probably a set up, but he wouldn't have gotten caught if he knew how to act. He shouldn't be verbally abusing his daughter. My mother has lashed out at me during moments of frustrations and I've hated her for it. It's not healthy to have someone talking down to you and claim it as love. My mother is not abusive either but she can be abusive. Words can hurt just as deeply if not more since you can replay them in your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Q Steph Posted April 19, 2007 Members Share Posted April 19, 2007 UPDATE: Alec Baldwin's spokesperson released the following statement to the TV show "EXTRA": "In the best interest of the child, Alec will do what the mother is pathologically incapable of doing ... keeping his mouth shut and obeying the court order. The mother and her lawyer leaked this sealed material in violation of a court order. Although Alec acknowledges that he should have used different language in parenting his child, everyone who knows him privately knows what he has been put through for the past six years." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mitchapalooza Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 While some of the names he called her where uncalled and pretty abrasive, we do not know the situation. 12 year olds can be LITTLE bastards to their parents, why is Ireland an exception. As I say again, this message should have never been leaked to the public, it is HIGHLY private and I doubt Alec abuses his daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shawn Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 My sentiments exactly. This is NOT something for public viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kylie Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 Eh, that was pretty harsh, but my dad has gotten pretty pissed himself and said things like that to me or my brother, my brother especially. Calling him an "ass" or "punk ass" "stupid ass", is normal to a lot of their upset dicussions. And my dad has been known to get the belt when we were younger (I used to run away, and never get it). There's a fine line between abuse and being angry and saying things you don't mean. I think that's probably a lot of what this is. It's sad that they relase this, and not some of the nice conversations I'm sure they've had. ITA, this should have never been leaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KBT Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 My dad has used language like that to me(not when I was 11 or 12 though) and everytime I deserved it for some things I did or said to my mother. My dad never once abused me, yes he spanked me but he is/was FAR from an abuser. I do think Alec was a little too abrasive, but we don't know the entire situation. I would hate to have some of my conversations with my parents recorded, who knows what I would be called. I am getting tired of everything getting leaked to the press, that voice message should have been kept private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kwing42 Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 I am still not sure why people love this jackass, weak excuse of a man. Sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Days4Life Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 I'm a parent and my kids, especially my teenage daughter, have often pushed me to the breaking point. While I never ranted to them the way Alec did on this voicemail, I have thought like that before and only a lot of self-control has kept it inside. I have also forgotten their ages before, like Alec did, and that doesn't make me a bad parent, just one with a not-so-good memory--half the time I can't remember my own age. I also know a couple who have gone through a terrible divorce/custody battle that stretched out for years. The woman went absolutely psycho during her three year battle with her ex-husband and said and did things I never would have expected from her. She turned her ex from a nice, decent guy into a man so frustrated and angry I hardly recognized him. They completely forgot about the best interests of their child and began using him as a weapon against the other. So I'm not going to judge Alec or Kim, because we don't know the whole story. And I agree that this tape should not have been made public, especially for Ireland's sake. But in a lot of these divorce/custody battles, people aren't thinking rationally any more. And the court systems make it worse, dragging proceedings out for years and increasing the frustration level. That doesn't excuse their bad behavior because Kim and Alec are adults and should take responsibility for their actions, but we're all outsiders and just have one tiny piece of the story so I don't think we should judge them. I'm sure there have been times during my years of parenting that an isolated moment could be looked at and I could be declared a bad or unfit parent. Parents aren't perfect, and children aren't either. The media need to let this story die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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