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Honestly, I wonder if it would've been better to just do something entirely new with The City instead of doing it as a spin-off - it feels like by continuing Loving they alienated both Loving viewers and potential new viewers. Of course, a soap oriented at the 18-34 demographic also shouldn't have aired at noon...

This certainly puts the Body & Soul storyline into perspective. I wonder if he knew his contract wasn't being renewed so now we'll get to enjoy months of him making passive-aggressive jabs at the show. In all honesty, I'm not sure if a headwriter switch will change much, but maybe with both Alarr and Carlivati now out there can be some sort of change. I enjoy Cwikly's early 00s run (with Brash), but if she had issues with the budget then, then I don't imagine what she'll have now. They really need to sit down and watch soaps from the 50s/60s which had similar low budgets and limitations.

A lot of people will also give themselves a time limit - ie if I haven't made it in acting/singing/etc before the age of x I will do other things. That's why you see so many actors who've not quite made it dip out at around 30-ish.

Well, up until CBS demanded they'd ditch the nazi plot that what was they did. After that the show just seemed to be thrown off balance entirely, though I guess Freilich's first season had the Kim Novak plot running through the episodes, but that one felt so separate from all other plotlines.

The last remaining Heather comments on the two fallen Heathers:

I thought that I heard you laughing I thought that I heard you sing I think I thought I saw you try

I also just think the daytime department had a lot more money to throw around at the time - it meant they could develop multiple shows and then decide to go with what they felt was the strongest option. It also meant they could put some of them on hold in case something started failing catastrophically, plus it allowed them to keep creative talent at the network. Compare it to how networks used to do prime time pilot season with a ridiculous amount of shows that ended up not being ordered. I agree and I kind of assume that's why P&G were more miffed rather than at the time slot move. I think they saw the writing on the wall that it was going to end when Bell had his second show ready. Otherwise they would've it once SFT didn't suffer a huge setback in ratings.

Add how fast the news cycle moves anyway - the only thing a "snack" would've provided is probably confusion, because as @Broderick points out a lot of things will probably change between now and the premiere in January. More things will fall into place once they get to filming and even then I'm sure they'll keep fine-tuning. But there's really no point to even start any campaign until October-ish and even then it's just better to do small teases and then increase those as filming progresses and it starts falling into place.

Heartbroken. We all knew this was coming sooner rather than later, but she was so active right up until the end with the podcast and attending conventions. She was scheduled for 90s con in September. RIP Shannen.

In these times, this episode feels even more poignant!

TODAY coverage:

I honestly wouldn't mind if the new reboot would start with Alison opening the door and greeting Amanda - Amanda whispering to whoever she's with (Peter?) that "she's drunk"; Andrew doesn't act anymore so it's Billy's funeral. Amanda feels pity for Alison and remembers she still owns that property on Melrose...

Courtney will never not crack me up - I remember an interview she and Andrew Shue did about a decade after Melrose ended. They were asked what their characters were doing - Andrew gave this whole fantasy about Alison and Billy ending up together, getting married and having children. Courtney? "Nah, Alison's somewhere in Atlanta, getting drunk!"

Lovely, sentimental episode. You just can't get them like this these days!

Premiering now! It's a decent quality transfer. Maybe one to watch on Christmas Eve though. Not the see through hair due to the green screen...

I had no idea if it's an episode that's been available or not already, but regardless, MovieCraft's transfers tend to hold an excellent quality so it's always worth watching again since most soap episodes out there are so low-quality.

My favourite moment has to be Courtney living for Drunkison: New US Weekly interview:

Heather is appearing at 90s Con in September: I think with her personal issues she's probably taking a step back from doing the grind these women are doing behind the scenes - "Still the Place" is clearly an effort to try and gather more interest in the reboot and position themselves.

They confirm that yes, the spin-off is still in development: On Access Hollywood:

1952 Christmas episode premiering 7/13 on the Moviecraft Inc channel (12-13-52): @vetsoapfan @FrenchFan @Paul Raven @dc11786 @DRW50 @Matt @Khan

Apparently part of that was because lil' Tori was a fan of General Hospital...

I don't see that myself personally, as much as I like ms Scoggins.

Also @Errol can we get a slight promo for this podcast. It's actually fun (unlike a lot).

Hopefully they'll get Vanessa Williams for season one episodes (I don't expect Amy Locane, for obvious reasons, though that'd be exciting!) Courtney and Andrew dated! Ha.