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It cracks me up that Central Park West rips are still largely those I did in the early 2000s. I need to get a better tv ripper and crack this open:

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God, I'm so horrible that I keep thinking that Tyler Perry is fascinating from a self-hating gay perspective. Veronica in The Haves and the Have Nots is clearly his mother stand-in. Yet, Tyler, I'm sure your mom isn't that hateful. She's just a camp parody of the homophobic mother without much effort put behind her motivations. Also, why on earth are people watching Tyler Perry shows?

Oh stuff like China Beach does occupy a weird space in time. The Vietnam war certainly did push a lot of shows that weren't necessarily that mainstream. Also, Dana Delaney has a great plastic surgeon. She looks amazing to this day.

So... China Beach anyone?

I mean, he's literally one person pushing out prime time soaps where he obviously can't deal with his own issues in his head. I'm sorry, but am going to hold the man responsible who wrote a scene where they proclaimed they're a "top"? I just can't take this man seriously and that goes for his work. Maybe black gay men feel differently, but this white gay doesn't.

I told no lie. Because [!@#$%^&*] me, it's getting worse. How on earth does a show that's bad get worse?

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Me and my sister are about to go and watch this. This is beyond exciting! AAaah! I love scary movies.

Now now. He treats all his characters horrible.

Yes! Veronica is such a crazy bitch and probably a manifestation of Tyler's mental illness. I'd say it's fascinating, but again, all characters are paper-thin. So let's start a separate Tyler Perry show thread.

I love how you just started out a sentence defending him, and then just turned around to massively shade him. Master class.

I do love how all characters on The Haves and The Have Nots are essentially acting unhinged because it's the easiest way of writing since you don't have to justify their actions. I am enjoying the show however, but it's also horrible and badly written.

What the hell DAYS. They did a decent job at redeeming the character and now he's leaving? Boo, hiss! I've decided that the new headwriters do suck ass.

Ooof for Beyond the Gates in the demographics, but I guess the Nancy Guthrie story just dominated. Still a decent performance in total viewers considering it usually hovers around 1.5m.

I'm actually shook that Tyler Perry is supposedly living in the glass closet. Like have people watched his shows?! He and Little Richard is all I'm saying.

Okay, can someone please offer some therapy for poor Tyler Perry that it's okay to be gay? He really needs it. Like on a Little Richard-level.

SO. After watching Sisters I've started seriously watching "The Haves and the Have Nots" and... besides @Khan destroying it by pointing out the obvious flaw in Tyler Perry's writing - aka the endless back-and-forth to extend scenes and it's honestly bad writing but alas. Can I just say that I rarely spontaneously laugh. Like ever - I'm quite a man in that sense. But man. The "come out scene", which I'm sure was going to play emotional just made me laugh. Like man. Veronica, what a bitch! But at the same time I'm rolling on the floor while that horrible actor is trying to squeeze out a tear. "No mommy, accept me mommy!". Oh [!@#$%^&*] off.

The guy in the Deadline article is hopeful that this is a new format at least. So there are people pushing for it, but we'll see. People need to watch this and at least be a moderate/mild success.

Oh interesting! I wonder if there were any screeners sent out for the pilot as unaired pilots from that era forward tend to pop up on YouTube etc.

It's now online - you have certain episodes for free, while you need to interact with the site in order to unlock the rest (or buy the full 55 episodes series totaling in 80 minutes for $9.99): The Golden Pear Affair | Presented by NATIVEThe Golden Pear Affair - Romantic Drama Series | Presente...Stream The Golden Pear Affair - An exclusive romantic drama series presented by NATIVE. Watch captivating episodes of love, intrigue, and passion set in stunning Italian villas. Deadline article

U-haul lesbians are definitively a thing. They love to nest.

I actually had to check it out - and it was indeed a Very Special Episode in the sense it was JT Fite's final episode and did give it a significant boost.