NothinButAttitude

The only last go-round of a triangle I could imagine with Brooke/Ridge/Taylor was if Brooke started to have menopause and her sexual urges started to decrease as they do with a lot of women going through the change. Ridge, being the pig that he is, does not feel fulfilled, and Brooke, someone who is used to having control of her body/sexuality, becomes depressed. Ridge finds himself wrapped up in Taylor, who is able to fulfill his needs. That would be an age appropriate last hoorah for this overplayed love triangle. And personally, I'd end it with Brooke and Taylor both coming to the realization that neither of them need Ridge. And yes, Sheila's kids need to come back and mix it up with the cast. This would be the perfect time for her spawns to come to town, build relations with Finn, and unravel and wreak havoc on the new generation. But like always, Brad stays stuck on the same 4-5 characters, hence why this show is gonna remain on the constant hamster wheel until it ends or someone else is able to wrest power from him and bring a new vision to the show.

Exactly. It has always boggled my mind that Hope or Brooke or even Katie haven't thrown that in her face by now. And I don't even know why Forrester Creations is still a thing. We haven't had a major business story in decades involving the company. Sucks because this show's greatest stories consisted over a power struggle for control or to get a line created. Furthermore, I am over hearing Ridge/Taylor/Brooke are still playing musical chairs at this point. They are over 50. That sh*t should cease at this point. Literally, all three characters need to be in therapy as none of them lack confidence. The stories given to the elders are stories that need to be given to RJ, Eric Jr., Jack, etc. along with all the current 20-30 year olds on this show.

Is it just me or does anyone else find it odd that soaps still have 30-something year old adults scheming to get their parents back together? That is one trope that needs to die. If kids younger than 18 do it, OK. But 18 and older doing that looks odd. Especially, when you're now an adult and figuring out life yourself. What adult has time scheme to get their parents back together too? Also, as many times of Thomas and Steffy have been married and divorced, you'd think by now that they'd conclude Taylor/Ridge is toxic and not gonna work. There are 1000 other stories Brad could be putting the Forrester kids into and this ain't one of them.

I can smell a flop a mile away. She is giving me Fatum, Eden Sassoon, Marissa, Askale vibes--that friend of the show that desperately tries to create drama and at the end of the day will be a dud/afterthought to the fandom. I bet majority of her scenes will be on the editing room floor b/c she's such a try-hard and the other two women (the Angies) will outshine her by simply being subtle and will upgraded over her in future seasons.

From the clips on Youtube surrounding Dan's death/funeral, it was painfully obvious that they should've started to have Kim gravitate toward Bob at that time. That subtle scene where Bob told Kim he'd always be there for her would've made me assume they were about to pair them together if I were alive and watching at that time. Wasn't Marland writing the show for a short stint during this time? If so, do you all think it was his plan to possibly go ahead and pair the duo at that time before abruptly being sent to GL?

I grew up with Martha's Lily being my Lily; however, I find myself loving Heather's interpretation more and more with each passing episode. Even though Lily was the 'ingenue' of the show at the time, she was cold and vampish. So much more refreshing than traditional Lily, who was preachy and saccharine.

My goodness! Everyone was trying to get some action in Oakdale! I don't know why Bob was insulted by Kim's worries. I think she made a valid point. Why should she sleep with Bob if he can't prove whether Susan does not have an STI or not? I wish we still had poignant conversations like this on soaps nowadays. REAL conversations. Many people still question the status of their lovers before hopping into bed. God, I miss Oakdale. I've been finding myself falling down an ATWT loophole and I don't regret it.

Can we just focus on that she ran to RADAR of all people? This just further proves what we've all been suspecting for years, which is that Rinna (along with the remainder of the Fox Force Five) and production leaked sh*t to Radar to get LVP off the show. Even Radar themselves came out and dispelled the rumors that LVP leaked the Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy story. But I digress. And Rinna is deluded if she thinks anyone is gonna pay her 2 million to stay on the show. Girl, you barely show up to filming and you only clock in towards the height of filming and it is forced. Rinna is killing this show and she needs to be put on ice permanently. Especially, after last night's episode where she did all that horrendous acting like Kathy said something so horrible. Yes, it is apparent Kathy had a breakdown but I doubt it is something so horrible. It is painfully obvious Rinna just wants to get the heat off of Erika and onto Kathy. And sad part is that none of the women (per Dorit on WWHL) really know what Kathy still said, which further proves it was NOTHING. Diana and Rinna need to be the casualties this season.

What I loved in the interview is how Debbie Allen made sure the cast became well-rounded and forced them into situations outside of just being an actor. I thought it was genius Debbie forced them all to put in directing or writing scripts occasionally in their contract.

Jesus! I don't remember Angel being this kooky as a child, but it could be when I started to pay attention to soaps, she was being phased out with Seth. The more I watch episodes from this era, the more I can see why Courtney was annoying to the audience. She gives stage 5 clinger vibes. It is like every scene she pops up in, she's moping after Andy, who painfully is annoyed by her existence. I don't see how Marland thought this character would be an ingenue the audience would get behind.

Someone who got an early screener leaked portions of the first episode online. One of the things that was leaked was that the women are getting new intro shots for RHOP:

Has Nick ever had any other story outside of bedding someone? Like seriously? It's been his story for 30 years.

Well boy oh boy was that a good double eviction. Michael got his comeuppance and he destroyed Brittany's game in the process. 😂 @AMCOLTLLover, give them time... Julie will be removed one of these days. Just give it time.

Does anyone feel that the monarchy is about possibly to come an end now that Elizabeth has died? I just don't see the Brits giving a rats a** about it anymore now that she isn't there. And the love just isn't there for Charles or William.

But this is why I HATE that live feeds are public to everyone because the episodes are heavily edited and glazed over. Kyle was horrendous on feeds. Production kept having to warn him that he was venturing into murky waters and he kept pushing the issue. When he did Joseph dirty in the backyard twist, that is when production no longer could protect him. Especially, when he went back in the house and immediately was pushing Monte, Taylor, and Terrence to go after attempting to get Michael out that week. Michael and Brittany aren't innocent either. They entertained Kyle and even went along with the idea until production warned them that it would be a PR nightmare. Even then, they sat on the info and only decided to come clean when Kyle wanted to get rid of Michael. They then decided to weaponize the info for their benefit. They are all disgusting if you ask me. And BB is heavily rooted in racism. It wasn't apparent in the first 11 seasons because people typically just played the game and it was normally one side of the house versus the other. It wasn't until season 12 we started to see racism ooze out and it didn't help that the show wouldn't cast no more than 3 POCs at max. Season 15 is when the subtle racism got traded for outright and it didn't stop until season 23 where CBS had to address the lack of POC cast because it was being addressed by Survivor, Amazing Race, and Big Brother contestants, which resulted in a huge backlash. Survivor and Amazing Race has shaped up but Big Brother still does sh-t that clings to the past. CBS needs too seriously fire everyone behind scenes (and Julie too) and hire a whole new team. That is only when matters will change on camera.

Yes. He did claim that Monte, Taylor, and Joseph were "loud and aggressive" because he was peeved that they wanted to get his "showmance" Alyssa out. Mind you, until she allowed him to penetrate her, he (himself) wanted Alyssa out as he found her to be annoying. He was the main reason Alyssa even came on their radar as he spent weeks pushing for her to go up and out. Sad part is that he was in an alliance with Monte/Taylor/Joseph and would've cruised to final 2 easily (and won) had he not allowed his insecurities and biases to rear their ugly heads. Overall, Kyle just wanted the POCs in the Leftovers Alliance to sit back and do what he wanted until he decided they needed to go.

Dare I say it but for the 50th anniversary, this show needs to start getting rid of people. I tried watching an episode today (after years of not watching), and I couldn't make it through the episode. I totally wouldn't be against hearing that the show decided to do a cheesy serial killer story that resulted some characters going... Victor Newman, Nick Newman, and Jack Abbott being at the top of the list. I know that is sacrilegious in these parts but what can either of these characters add at this point? It doesn't make sense that this show has miserably failed when it comes to the next generation. Noah and Kyle should literally be the leading men on this show.

Friend, they were BEYOND that, and he was warned numerous times by the DR that he was veering into racist territory. He chose to not listen, so he got his rightful comeuppance. He stated that they (the remaining WHITE houseguests) should devise an all-white alliance to combat a POC alliance that existed in his head. Meanwhile, Taylor, a BLACK woman, was the target of everyone at one point and got thus far by sheer luck. Now regarding Taylor @AMCOLTLLover, she said she wouldn't nominate a Black woman. However, she gladly voted Jasmine out. There's a difference. Taylor openly stated that DAY ONE. And why should she nominate a Black woman and lessen the chance of one of them not winning? The one thing that has killed this show has been lack of representation. We've had 24 seasons and how many Black women won? ZERO. Hell, we just got a Black man winning last year. How many Black women have made it to final 2? Once. And that was 20+ years ago and she (Dani Reyes) was horrendously robbed. Had the show created an equal playing field years ago (along with casting painfully obvious racists), we wouldn't have these occurrences now.

@Kane, I am so glad that I stumbled into this thread and just so happened to see your WordPress page for Loving. *chef's kiss* I am having the time of my life reading the history of this show.

Thank you @Taoboi Not Gizzard and Candiass going at it this upcoming season... And I am sorry, but Broke Chris gives me vibes that he is cheating. I don't think that it is farfetched. Staying out to 1 AM, DM'ing Ashley, and possibly pushing up to Gizelle--yeah, I can believe it. And y'all know Dorothy is gonna come out the woodwork and further spill tea on the matter if it is true. I give the Dillards (aka poor man's Cynthia/Peter) 1-2 years tops before they divorce. Moving on... I like Mia but she gotta stop tossing stuff at folks. And in the same breath, Wendy (and Candiace last year) need to stop provoking people to get that reaction. And I already see on Twitter that Candiace and Wendy are out pushing the colorism angle. I'm sorry but they are ALL at fault. Lastly, Muva... I am READY for her to get rah-rah on Cha-Cha's ass. It has always bothered Charisse that Karen became the queen bee she thought she'd be. And yet again, these women bring Cha-Cha around to pull stunts in order to get her flute back. I have a strong feeling, this ain't gonna go nowhere. Charisse will flop again like usual. I expect Jacqueline (Mia's friend) to probably be the breakout star of the two.

This just boggles my mind. Why not make the 3 new women full-time? A show with 5 full-time housewives has NOT worked since probably about NJ during the Gorga/Manzo saga. They cast is too small and typically 1-2 women carry everything while the rest piggyback off of that. While the trailer was good, it'll be Jen and Lisa carrying everything while the other 3 prosper off that. That aside, it also boggles my mind why Bravo and production does new photo shoots, but doesn't update the credits. That's dumb. If you already rented out a space to shoot new cast photos for the press release, why not go ahead and shoot new opening credits?

RIP, Miss. Goat! Say hello to Giggy and T'Challa! 😔 Someone posted a pic of the Epstein's ledger that leaked awhile back and Stanbury is on the list. I wouldn't be surprised if she was in that circle of bringing girls to them "allegedly."

Lesa is my fave (alongside Ayan), so I am glad she is telling everything. It has been long awaited that Caroline be called out for her ties to Epstein and Prince Andrew. I'm glad Sergio's tweets are being called to the forefront too.

Oh it is gonna be a bloodbath...