NothinButAttitude

Interesting. I am going to comb through the board and see if I can find some summaries from around that period [all of 83].

You don't like Alex?! If not, hush your face!

OMG. When Bethenny said something about her and Heather braiding their puss hair together, I died. Bethenny is what this show needed. And I am actually warming up to Luann this season and y'all ALL know how I hated her in the past, seeing how she treated my Alex.

I wish that someone post more clips of it b/c it seems like it was an interesting. Did Charlotte become a nut or something?

Just watched an episode feature Judith Chapman as Charlotte Greer. Can anyone please tell me the story surround this character? She seems interesting.

I thought you liked Kenya s5 when she came for Phaedra? Because Nene sure did. And Marlo acted no more disgusting than Nene did at that event. Both were in the wrong. Nene should've told Marlo that she was upset with her and that she'd talk to her another time. Instead, Nene acted like a petulant child because Marlo didn't hate Kenya like she did.

They are actually friends, but Nene would flip on her in a second too b/c Vicky is a real actress. Her acting credits and abilities would piss Nene off. Plus, Vicky has the right kind of craziness for these shows. It would also give her a platform to tell her story [i.e. the Y&R situation] and gain a new following.

So true. They should've cast Vicky Rowell back when they were rumblings they were pursuing her for s5.

But besides Phaedra, most of the women's kids are grown. And I've become jaded to 'family' scenes too b/c I know that the women use them for story. I blame Trampra & Brandi for that seeing as they've both been fighting their exes for custody for kids, so they can be on the show and give them another story.

But again, that is production's fault. They should stop switching up the casts mid shooting. As Kenya's friend, she knew she had to show out in hopes of being bumped up [a la Brandi] the next season. Once she got the peach mid-season, there was no need for her to turn up [even though she still did] that much anymore. Production needs to pick a cast from the cast and stick with it. And I said earlier, they need to trim down on episodes anyways. 22 episodes a season is becoming too much. But at this point, they should've just given all eight women a peach. NYC did. It wouldn't've hurt to see Demetria's arc and perspective on matters. It might've lightened up the show some more.

True but she was still unmarried, which people bring up. I'm just over people using that as an excuse for women they don't like being on the show. It's disputable because Andy has established the meaning of housewives countless time. I see this all over the Internet on various boards and comment sections and it's old. Tired. Played out. None of these wives shows cast just wives. Except Married to Medicine. But the rest of the shows always cast a single, unmarried girl so she can rival the married women. And the sanctity of marriage is garbage anyways so why are we still harping on the titles husband or wife. They don't mean sh-t nowadays anyways. Might as well remain single and unwed. It's less stressful.

Claudia has been married. She has said it numerous times on this show. She said it when she first appeared and talked about it with Phaedra in Manila. And I am sorry but I am over people bringing up women not being married being cast on these shows. Andy has said it a hundred times that the term housewives is a turn on the traditional definition. He said that any woman can be cast. A woman that has been married, a woman that is married, or a woman that aspires to be married. None of these women are traditional housewives. None of them stay at home and cook and clean. Most of them run businesses. Most of them use this show to catapult them into the business world. Lastly, this show, since the very beginning, has always had a single, unmarried woman on the show. Jo, who was on season one the OC, [which another poster brought up when this was brought up about two weeks ago] was the original single woman. Bethenny was the next. Kandi soon followed. It's in the show's canon. I'm over people grabbing at the low hanging fruit.

Wait a second, but didn't you like Marlo at one point? When she was Team Nene? Just like Kenya once was? ^ This right here.

Well I always liked Marlo and still do so clearly that wasn't meant for me. Plus, I don't think I didn't start posting on here about housewives until s5. But people can say the same about Phaedra's first season too. She came in trying to come for Nene and Kim hard, but she was [and still is] able to get a reprieve. OK.

You know it. Anything that is progressive will be shot down with the quickness. As many have said, this show is already too saccharine. Add in Candace's beliefs and this show will give you a toothache. I don't see this lasting too long....

Oh. So I'm wondering if Candace Cameron Bure will want DJ to adopt her subservient beliefs....

Well they did make her a housewife in the eleventh hour, hence why her scenes were so jarring this season. I think she'd calm down during her second season much like Kenya did.

Why?

Hell no at that lineup. Caravan bring NOTHING to the show. I'm over rewarding her when she brings this show down into the gutter with her antics. Line up needs to be: Nene Phelony Cynthia Claudia Kenya Kandi Two new housewives or one new one and Sheree. But this show is in desperate need of new energy, so I say two new wives. Caravan can pop up as an occasional friend. That's it.

No! I want Claudia to come back! She deserves a second chance. If Poorsha gets three seasons, Claudia at lease deserves a second chance. I just want the show to revert back to the times of season 1-2 where times were simpler. This is why they need to cut the season down to 12-15 episodes a season instead of 22. I feel like these prolonged seasons make the women crazier.

No. He just joined me, Cheap, Eric, & Chris on TEAM TWIRL & TEAM PRETTY!!!

My issue started with Nene when she flipped on Kenya last year. It had nothing to do with Marlo. She just loathed Kenya for no reason when she was all for her s5. Pillow Night just further solidified it. It had nothing to do with Marlo getting a peach. I do think that it is f-cked up that she blocked Marlo from getting reappearing on the show. That's jacked up. And I still have a soft spot for Nene. I just think that she needs to change her attitude. I loved underdog Nene that wasn't so damn paranoid and thinking everyone is coming for her. I miss the Nene that isn't a miserable sow. I miss the Nene that didn't obsess about material goods and money. Money has made this woman miserable. She's the worst kind of nouveau riche.

And Nene isn't vicious? OK. I find it odd that everyone comes for Kenya, Claudia, and even Cynthia now when they all are doing the same sh-t that Nene did season 1-4--start sh-t and stir the pot. That's the name of the game. Nene created a monster and now she can't handle it because they do what she does better and smarter. She has to throw idle threats and demands to get her way. Yeah, she'll get her way for now, but that sh-t will soon cease. Marlo said it best, "Nene may be going up in the elevator but they'll be holding the door open for her ass when she comes down."

But Lisa has never said who should be fired and who should stay. When she was being ganged up on last season, she offered to walk away. But she has the coins herself to do that. She doesn't need housewives. And Lisa doesn't get threatened she rolls with the punches. Unlike some.... *coughs* Nene *coughs* Bam! This right here. And Nene is the one behind the vicious cycle on this show. Any woman who she feels is capable of stealing the spotlight, she flips on them. Her track record shows that and not even her stans can deny that.