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Absolutely agree. Katherine was a mean, bitter, hardened woman, and we loved her for it. Even when she found Mackenzie she was a wreck and it was amazing to watch. LML and MAB softened her up way, way too much and the businesswoman angle was such a cop out to try and keep her in the mix. A Mac/Billy (great)grandchild for Katherine and Jill would have given so, so much for them to play off of. Mac and Billy could go through marital problems or Mac could have had post-partum depression or the baby could have a health crisis or even lighter things like Katherine and Jill competing for the baby's affections. The possibilities were limitless and Mac and Billy were incredibly popular under Tom and Bashioum. In my view, the loss of Tom was bad, but it was the loss of Bashioum that really hurt because none of the Mac recasts have worked - she brought a hardness to the role that was so similar to Jeanne Cooper that I had no trouble believing them to be grandmother and granddaughter. Watching Katherine's Intervention, it's amazing how much better the show was then and back in 2004 we all thought it was faltering (which it was), but Dear God In Heaven how I'd wish to go back to 2004 levels of quality. I always looked at the lighting and appearances by Rex and Philip as Kay's drunken hallucination, rather than divine intervention (which it was meant to appear to be with Rex and Philip in white resort wear). The acting and production and style is just head and shoulders above what we see now.

Seeing Alden, Houghton, Birn, Jones, Foster, and Best was bittersweet. Sally McDonald was listed as a production assistant. Incredible talent fostered and promoted from within. Y&R, for decades, was in the Top 30 most highly rated broadcasts in Canada every week (a quick review of ratings shows it ranked within the Top 30 as recently as 2016), which includes daytime, primetime, and news. Y&R has almost always been a news hour lead in for Global, to much success. You'll see a lot of it in the last episode that airs this week (Billy and Chloe's wedding). It's painted an old school robin's egg blue and could be expanded out onto the pool. In Jeanne's Archive of American Television interview she said the set cost $175,000 (in 1973 dollars!) to build. Diminishing that set was such a grave mistake.

That is how I feel. Kenya is far more unlikeable and unwatchable. Nene still makes me laugh.

I'm absolutely tuning in for this. It will be great to see them all together again (albeit physically distanced)

I've said it once, I'll say it a million times, Jeanne was at her best when Katherine was at her worst. That's a shame because I loved her as Mamie. Her "You mean the bitch, don't you?" line is still one of my favourites. Aside from Jeanne and Jess Walton, it's a distinct possibility. She would be a hoot. Someone should get her on.

Jess Walton gave a good interview to Michael Fairman about Katherine the Great Week, Jeanne, and her time in general on Y&R: https://michaelfairmantv.com/yrs-jess-walton-remembers-jeanne-cooper-classic-katherine-jill-and-talks-life-in-present-day-gc/2020/04/26/

I almost feel bad for Nene too. It's clear that someone in production has it out for her. I also point out that she told no lies about Eva. Eva is incredibly boring and no matter how well she performs at the reunion, she should not be returning to the show because she brought nothing, and I mean nothing, this entire season. She brought nothing last season either. Tanya and Marlo both brought MUCH more to the show and neither of them gets the glory Eva does... I've finally caught up on RHOA today (it seems that the broadcast of the last two episodes has been delayed in Canada, but they're up on Hayu)...overall it's been a very decent season. I do not care for the Kandi and Todd drama at all. Todd is a petulant twerp. Mama Joyce is a bitter cow. Kandi is an industrious, kick ass, woman and she's better than both of them put together. Todd publicly flogging himself was needed. He has no clue how good he has it. Little Ace is adorable. It is blatantly obvious that Cynthia is only in Atlanta for the show and that she otherwise is in Los Angeles with Mike. Her own child isn't there. Speaking of children, what on earth is Cynthia playing at with mentioning a baby? We do not need a fake pregnancy musing storyline a la Melissa Gorga. Porsha looked like a superstar at Kandi's baby shower. This season has been incredible for her. Kenya is a bitch with an ugly heart. I don't like watching her because none of it rings true. Fake as they come. She has made me feel sympathetic to Nene.

No, Jeanne was sober by the time MTS stopped talking to her (Jeanne went to rehab in 1986). It's a very weird story and only one that MTS can tell because Jeanne didn't have a clue. Agreed. Both were so important to the show I realize it would have been very difficult to get rid of either of them, but that kind of behaviour is just unprofessional.

RHOBH I am disgusted with myself for watching and loving what I am seeing on RHOBH this season. It's clear that the filming was a mess and that the producers had to scramble in order to put together a good season because they could not fail after all the criticism that has been levelled at RHOBH for years. They are taking chances with production and I am finding it refreshing. Breaking the 4th wall with the producers talking is excellent and actually addressing the show itself is very important for these franchises to evolve. Dorit is so much more enjoyable this season, that it's kind of amazing. I liked that the producers challenged her and PK on their lawsuits and even though they hardly addressed it (it's obvious the house is solely in Dorit's name for creditor protection) I liked that scene the best. I really like Garcelle and enjoyed seeing her with Ali Landry and Erika. I enjoy everything about her so far. Erika has been so different this season that even though she's inauthentic and performing at all times, the character she's now playing is so much more relatable. Rinna continues to struggle to find an actual storyline and I don't like that she's featuring her daughter's mental illness at all. Let's face it: her daughters would be complete unknowns if Rinna hadn't pushed them into the spotlight and kept them there by talking about them. She should focus on spotlighting her QVC business and how it's developed. Kyle is a non-factor and should be fired. Sutton is wholly unlikeable and comes across terribly. I listened to an interview she gave Heather McDonald's Juicy Scoop podcast and she came off much, much better but I think we're seeing the real Sutton on this show and it's not flattering. She reminds me a lot of RHOV's awful Jody. Denise was more entertaining hopped up on painkillers than Kyle will ever be when she's trying to ham it up. RHONY I loved this episode. These women give us everything: drama, comedy, thrills, romance, lust, tension, suspicion - they do it all and they do it well and I'm forever indebted to them for getting the world through this pandemic one naked pool romp at a time. The key to RHONY is that the cast, for the most part, is not self conscious about the cameras. They don't care how they come across (while all other franchises, with perhaps the exception of certain housewives) are extremely aware of how they come across on camera and want to be perceived positively. Luann hitting on the tennis pro and then the dog groomer (who I have no problem believing she hooked up with that night) was hilarious and like watching SATC's Samantha Jones in her prime. Dorinda, Tinsley, Leah, and Sonja's drunken shouting match/pool party/bacchanal was just what the world needed to see. I laughed and laughed. Dorinda and Sonja in bed with Sonja's dog Marley with their face masks on was amazing and another comedic high point. The thing about Sonja is she's harmless and rallies like a champion. Ramona leaving her own party to go to someone else's was so Ramona. Bravo to BRAVO, they're getting us through this pandemic.

I really loved Katherine's Intervention party - I'm tuning in for that absolutely.

But what of the Linda Dano, Stephen Schnetzer, Carmen Duncan, Anna Stuart, Amy Carlson, Alicia Coppola etc group of people who genuinely liked each other and still hang out with each other 20 years after the show ended?

An episode for Katherine the Great week... When Katherine throws her glass of vodka and breaks her mirror. I'd love to see that full scene again!

You're most welcome. Jeanne's entire Archive of American Television Interview is excellent and it's three hours long. Jeanne, unlike some interviewees, is totally candid and loves to expand on topics, dish, and have an opinion. https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/interviews/jeanne-cooper

Absolutely. Y&R was always a cut above visually. They spent an enormous amount of money on the sets and it showed. I'll leave it to the Jeanne to explain how Y&R elevated daytime:

I loved all of your choices too - I really hope we see a few of them during Katherine the Great week. Y&R is making a very, very smart decision and should keep these theme weeks with old favourites going.

"And the man is magic, isn't he? The way he talks, the way he acts, the way he makes you believe in him, THE WAY HE MAKES YOU CARE ABOUT HIM!" - I would pay good money to see that scene again. I feel that's what Jess came into her own as Jill and never looked back. They NEED to do a Best of Jill week. I'd throw in these classics: 1. Phillip dies (1989): "This is your fault. It's always been your fault. First, the father and now, the son!" 2. Jill vs. Mamie (1996): "You mean the bitch, don't you?" 3. Jill vs Kay in the attic (1998) 4. Jill sleeps with Victor (1990) 5. Jill runs to stop Mackenzie and Billy's wedding (2003)

I think that's a fair observation and I think Bill Bell found that inspiration again with Jess Walton. He wrote her to two Emmys (including the show's first win for Lead Actress) and played to her ferocious strengths.

I suspect it was a few factors: 1. Adair was booking primetime roles in the 1980s and probably didn't want to be tied down; 2. Adair married Chip Hayes and may have wanted to start a family (when she and Hayes eventually adopted their children in 1995, she retired from the business entirely); 3. Walton was clearly happily committed to daytime and her transition from Capitol to Y&R required no accommodation.

A class act if there ever was one.

RHONY "And then you die and you catch some d*ck on the way." - Sonja Morgan. Give her an Emmy. What a line. This episode was a lot of fun even though basically nothing happened of any consequence. It felt easy breezy and organic with the women bonding at the winery and Lu "taking care of her neck"...and then that evening party. That was a riot of hilarity. Obviously, that short rich guy just wants to offload the house and this was a way to promote it, but Sonja's descent into booze was hilarious - especially because she rallies so effectively the next morning. It really is incredible.

The demo was 0.4 compared to this week's Vanderpump Rules with a demo of 0.6...

They literally had LVP's voice playing over Rinna putting on that crown. Like the kind of flashback voiceover that they'd do on Y&R between Kay and Jill. I could hardly believe it. Rinna literally has no storyline, and hasn't for years, so I wonder where she's meant to be headed this season.

Okay so I watched RHOBH. It's quarantine. I was desperate. I was underwhelmed at alleged huge "iconic" last few minutes were. None of that surprised me at all. But I'm here to see Denise win and come out swinging. Are we at all surprised that Erotika Lame was a stripper? I'm not. And I don't fault her at all for it. She should have embraced this part of her story a long, long time ago. The tension between Dorit and Kyle was palpable and I actually liked/agreed with everything Dorit said about Kyle slapping her name on a fashion line. Kyle is still the whiney drama queen that she's always been. I pitied that fashion show producer having to deal with Kyle's histrionics. I loved seeing a glimpse of Faye. I liked Garcelle as well - anyone who doesn't like Kyle has a sterling quality in my book. Stratton...hmm...in my opinion, which is not based in fact and therefore cannot give rise to a claim for defamation, she has a drinker's gut. The stomach on her with those skeletal arms. Rinna and the crown...I totally agree with @NothinButAttitude production, had they been smart, would have not mentioned LVP even once. But she looms large over this show.

I cannot wait for Potomac.

I didn't notice The Morally Corrupt Faye Resnick in the trailer...this is the most tempting thing to tune back in that I've seen.