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I'd love to see Mo'Nique on ATL. She'd only survive a season before she'd burn all her bridges and flame out spectacularly but it would be fascinating.

Please Y&R producers, pretty please?!

I've seen the 1984 episode since it aired in Canada today - it's really good - be sure to watch the scenes with Victor, Nikki, Katherine, and Cora...now THAT is some amazing acting from Dorothy McGuire who played Victor's mother. And yes, I only wish one of JW's Emmy winning episodes had made it into the week. I really want a Best of Jill week too!

Count me IN.

ATL: Eva is OUT. She’s announced her own exit, but we know how these things work in the Housewives universe: https://people.com/tv/eva-marcille-leaving-real-housewives-of-atlanta/ Her exit means nothing for the show since she did nothing for seasons.

For a while thereafter she was also Jill Abbott Atkinson...I think she's back to being Jill Foster Abbott...which as you rightly say, is how she should always be. I really think Jill shifting out of the Abbott orbit (which the role of Gloria assumed, disastrously) really damaged the purpose of Jabot, Billy's role, and the Abbotts generally. Jill was the natural tolerable antagonist/sparring partner that the whole storyline needed (and still does need).

Sonja screaming "SHUT THE F*CK UP ABOUT THEM!" is a MOOD. Also a mood is Sonja's post on Tinsley's Instagram goodbye. It's so petty and I couldn't stop laughing:

I know! I check this thread all the time - for my money it's the best on the board. If anyone needs a show to watch to fill the void, 2 seasons of Selling Sunset are on Netflix. It's a very fun watch.

All 4 seasons of Melbourne are flawless and for my money the most enjoyable RH franchise in the world. Vancouver is a perfect 2 season capsule franchise that would grip Bravo viewers from coast to coast. Toronto is a 1 season wonder. And when in doubt, Cheshire has at least 10 season by now that could fill the void.

That is some top shelf blepharoplasty. If you didn't have those photographs to compare, you'd never have guessed that Jerry Douglas' eyes weren't always like they are in 1987. It makes him look much, much younger and healthier and awake.

The tidal wave against several people on Bravo is gaining force, I'm looking at you Kelly Dodd, so I'm not surprised Bravo took decisive action with VPR. I can certainly appreciate people wanting to see LVP being vocal...but I took her silence to mean there were things happening behind the scenes with production that she knew were coming. And so they did.

One thing to be mindful of is LVP is a producer on the show and Bravo have to go through legal before firing people so they can’t be immediately vocal in case it opens them up to liability and lawsuits from those they fire. Stassi and Kristen were both just fired, so clearly it was happening behind the scenes. https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/stassi-schroeder-kristen-doute-fired-vanderpump-rules-1234629172/

Kristen and Stassi have both been fired from Vanderpump Rules.

This cast is so problematic - it really lends itself to pivoting to just following the Toms over to Tom Tom with LVP there naturally, with cameos from Ariana, Schena and Katie...fire the rest of them.

Jax is awful and needs to go. Charli is a nobody and I see no reason she has relevance but she destroyed him. And it was great to see how much Arianna gets under his skin.

Luann came across so well in this episode. She was so wonderful with Dorinda. It reminded me of a scene years ago when Sonja took down her ex-husband's painting in her townhouse. Who was there to hold her hand? Luann. I just laughed and laughed with Sonja this episode. I love how industrious she is - she's going to strike a business deal at a bar in Rhode Island and God help anyone who gets in her way.

That scene is so, so good. Jill's outburst that she's "not going to turn into a pathetic old woman whose trying to hold onto something she can't keep" was so fearlessly acted. It was not part of Jess Walton's Emmy reel and in hindsight that was a mistake because it is a powerful scene. When Sean finally leaves and she rushes over to the bar cart, looks at the decanters of alcohol, then looks in the mirror, and then sobs, you can see that in a split second Jill decided to be everything Katherine could not be - to face her pain head on, and to cry. For me, this scene expressed Jill's pain at seeing happiness slip away from her own inability to get past the age difference between her and Sean and that said bigger things about women and love and aging. Having seen this scene again after all these years, I would bring back Sean in a heartbeat for Jill and give them a second chance. One thing the airing of the classic episodes has hammered home is just how good Jess Walton is and how important her interpretation of Jill is to the canvas. Have we seen a single episode where she phoned it in or wasn't excellent? I loved the Lauren/Isabela scene as Lauren gets right under her skin, looking like Jill St. John in Diamonds Are Forever. Speaking of diamonds, Katherine decked out in so many diamonds it's obscene was a treat to see.

Erika is such a weakling, it's comical to see her with balls of brass in her confessionals but silent face to face while Denise takes no prisoners. Denise and Garcelle massacred those awful women calmly and directly. Rinna leaving that table to play with the kids has me of two minds: did she do it because she didn't want to take part in the pile on because of her 20+ year friendship with Denise, or did she do it because she saw that Teddi and Kyle had botched the attack on Denise and didn't want to stick around and be part of the carnage, knowing Denise could annihilate her? If Rinna has any soul at all, probably a bit of both. She is coming off horribly this season.

Was Ms. Wyndham just a nightmare behind the scenes? I seem to have totally missed the lore on the behind the scenes action on the show - I only really remember Linda Dano saying it was a family out there in Brooklyn (just as she did in that clip).

ATL Finished Part 3 of the Reunion and it felt like a waste of an episode other than seeing Baby Ben and Eva apologizing to Marlo unreservedly.

Good for Porsha!

I absolutely agree. It felt like a series finale for at least some of the cast. All of the new blood are flops. Jax and Brittney are over and done and I don't care what happens to either of them (not in a love to hate way, just a "ugh, get them off the screen" way). They are just gross. I agree with your exit list (though I would demote Lala to Friend Of since she still has an enviable life and could host a party or two) and I think Katie should also be demoted since she's brought NOTHING to the show for years. I think that the show needs to pivot to the expansion of Tom Tom with the two Toms and LVP, focus next season on breaking the 4th Wall and showing the real lives of people like Kristen and Schena and Ariana who absolutely get the shaft in comparison to Stassi, and do NOT focus on a Stassi/Beau wedding (if it happens at all due to Covid-19).

Rinna is absolutely atrocious this season - appearing to throw away a 20 year friendship with Denise for this show. What happened to her? Does she think this ends well for her? Like, where did that fun woman whose in on the joke go? Kyle is just a bore. She needs to go down hard and then get off the show. She is a whiney disgrace. I cannot stomach watching her. Teddi is just a bad joke trying to back Kyle up. I root for Dorit to destroy them both. Erika had a good episode last week...but this week...hypocrite. When it comes to the bold section...YES. These women should all be treading awfully carefully, especially Rinna. They want to talk about Denise's kids but would they tolerate someone talking about theirs? I hope Garcelle and Denise nuke these broads, sans Dorit (who seems to like Denise).

It absolutely was. It's the Covid-19 joke we didn't know we needed.