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Kenya has good taste with the independently wealthy housewives she chooses to praise.

I cannot wait for its return! Petitfleur (pronounced Pet-eh-fler) says "this little flower is no shrinking violet" which is a play on her name meaning "little flower" in French.

RHofBH Yet another winner of an episode as we begin the steady climb to more heightened drama. The show just works better when it isn't a constant stream of dark, ugly drama between a bunch of petty women. These episodes provide us with balance that we need to sustain the season! Eileen's frosty, nervous energy is a cover for a slightly insecure, slightly dorky woman. Nothing wrong with that! Eileen is who she is and she owns it. It's nice to see that the family friendly atmosphere on daytime soap sets that Erika Slezak and Susan Lucci raved about back in the 80s remains in the industry. Brandi's single scene doing her podcast was more than enough exposure to her. Yolanda's scenes were what we've come to expect of her: she worships David unfailingly. It isn't offensive and she has a wonderful smile. But, whatever. Loved the two Lisas in Palm Springs. Lisa R is so positive and joyous, just love her. The thing about Lisa's Max dating an older woman is that it shouldn't surprise her: boys go for women that remind them of their mothers. Lisa is an old soul, in the best sense of the word, she's a very glamorous, refined woman...he isn't going to find that in 25 year olds. So he goes a decade older. Sure, Max is looking for a "mummy"...but so did Ken's son and that one worked out great! Kim was quite likeable in this episode as it emerges that she and Monty have a complicated history (his second ex-wife was getting her makeup done with Kim and all seemed cordial) and she's done a lot for him. It appears Kim has a few crosses to bear, which is likely why she's been such a messy drunk and ridiculously bad dog owner in the past...but she has many redeeming features. Kyle, of course, tried to make the wedding as much about her as it was about Kim, Monty and their daughter. The highlight of the wedding scenes, aside from the positively beaming groom, was Kathy Hilton looming on her front steps, looking like the classic Beverly Hills matron, coldly blanking Kyle while telling Kim she was doing great. That was just too delicious for words. Kathy just seems to loathe Kyle. If ever someone deserved Special Guest Star billing, it is Kathy Hilton.

The great thing about VR is you can sit back and laugh for an hour at the clowns Lisa, our immaculate ringmaster, presents to us. Not one of them is successful and, considering their ages, they've all piqued. Not one of them is going to 'make it'...and as their looks fade they'll get jobs in nameless offices or teach acting classes at third rate schools. When you've had a bad day, nothing perks you up like Vanderpump Rules. Kristen is a sicko. Nut job. Crazy. Insane. Ill. The attacks on Ariana and her obsession with Tom Sandoval make me laugh. She's like a character Glenn Close could have played. She's utterly delusional and that twit of a boyfriend of hers, James, clearly resents her obsession. Katie and Tom Schwartz...let's be real, those two have probably cheated on each other multiple times. Not one of the SUR employees has any emotional maturity. They aren't capable of it. I dislike Scheana and her winey crap but she's right about Stassi trashing SUR: she quit. She misses being queen bee. She lives an entirely mediocre life with her imaginary boyfriend in that fancy apartment production is likely paying for. Stassi is a nobody. And oh, the rage she has for Jax. She'd totally get back together with him. Vail seems alright, but very much in the "I'm working my program, one day at a time" way. Jax continues to be another loser whose looks are fading fast as he bitches and moans about not making the tips he wants because of PUMP. Peter and Lisa are made of win when they have their little chats about the staff. Lisa's shade about the staff was immaculate after interviewing Vail: "she'll never last, she's too good, too pretty and too smart" The whole episode was glorious fun.

RHoBH What a great episode, delightfully non-toxic. A bit Kyle heavy, which means it's never that authentic as she seems hell bent on portraying the 'happy and in love perfect LA mother who has it all' schtick like it's going out of style. I will give Kim this: when she makes fun of Kyle she's actually quite amusing. Now, throw Kathy Hilton in there eviscerating Kyle with scathing glances and you have housewives heaven. Brandi's tales of podcasts and Range Rovers. Yawn. If she wants to buy a house so badly and to not have to depend on a man again she could have settled on a nice Ford Focus. Doesn't cost more than $15,000. If you get a six figure cheque, why not save that money for a rainy day when Housewives is over and you're irrelevant again? Why not use that for the mortgage? Poor financial acumen right there. Yolanda has done well to rehabilitate her image by getting her head out of her a$s. Her struggle with her mother is just dreadful, as is her daughter's DUI which had to be quite frightening given Yolanda's childhood experience. You really have nothing without your health and I wish her mother so well. Eileen's house looks so much fun and kid friendly. She's clearly spent those DAYS, B&B and Y&R pennies wisely. Good for her. She does have a certain frostiness to her that I find intriguing. Lisa V and Lisa R are fabulous together. It's nice that they can be honest about what clothes look good. That's really honesty. What I really appreciate about Lisa R is how positive she is. She is an absolute celebrator. So supportive of people. I really hope she succeeds big time with whatever she wants to do. She's great. So is Lisa V. Hustlers. Love em.

Absolutely not. For a contract to be binding there needs to be something called "consideration" (ie changing your position based on the deal, ie getting something). Nene received no consideration from the Detroit Board of Education so they absolutely cannot sue her. It was a unilateral promise. Not enforceable at all.

I loved it this week because these people, aside from Lisa, are the hottest messes on earth! They live in these crap apartments, littered with junk, like below average people, trying to 'make it' in LA while waiting tables for people they wish they knew. Kristen seems legitimately crazy and obsessed with everyone being as miserable as she is. And then you have Jax being a total destructive psycho loser. Stassi the control freak. The Toms being likeable, despite their low achievements and questionable morals. Katie being a mess. Scheana being somewhat irrelevant this episode. And then you have Lisa, serenely gliding above them all, dripping with diamonds and style and sly, dry, British humour.

Vail Bloom has a pretty sad IMDB and she's 32. It seems she just might need a job that allows her to go on auditions - just like the rest of the cast. That's the thing about VR, it has to have producer involvement, but they're all actors who aren't going to make it, so they all know how to perform and make some good TV happen.

RHBH: what a great episode, production has really picked up their game compared to last season. Like Lisa and Andy said in their One on One, it's like that season of Dallas where Bobby Ewing died - it's like last season didn't happen to a degree. Lisa showed how it's done with Brandi, she didn't stoop and wiped the floor with her, leaving Brandi dumbfounded, her natural state I'm sure. Kyle was an idiot to give Brandi her phone, it went against what she and Lisa discussed the weeks previously. That was poor form on Kyle's part, but not malicious. Kim was likeable this episode because she didn't make anything all about her. I can give her credit for being really plugged into her kids lives and wanting them to shine. And I loved that shade filled cameo by Kathy Hilton, who is basically Kim's saviour and protector since it's Kathy who actually got Kim into rehab. Kathy has never seemed to like Kyle. Kathy's very wise. Kyle and Portia, the half assed version of Milania? Nope, don't care. Portia is a brat. Yolanda has seriously repaired her image in 3 episodes. She, like Kim, is great with her kids, including her dark and brooding Bella. I feel for Yolanda with her mother's health issues. That's very tough. Lips Rinna (said with love) is so great for this show. Her exuberance and sincerity is wonderful. She isn't a hater, she's a celebrator. Great to see Eileen. Her natural aloofness is going to get to some of the women, that's for sure.

The tears of a woman who is telling the truth.

Absolutely, what Camille accused Kyle of saying is totally in character.

I'm glad you caught that too. I rolled my eyes. Typical Kyle, pretending she's someone she's not when she lives in a perfectly pedestrian house with a perfectly pedestrian backyard, in a perfectly pedestrian part of Bel Air that's rather close to the freeway...she isn't Betsy Bloomingdale and she never will be.

You've gotta hand it to Slut Pig and Sh't Stain Pillow, they make quite the pair of idiots stalking a realtor who drives a Prius. Dim Richards is just so weird, how does her conduct seem healthy to a woman of her age? Brandi tried and failed, yet again, with her comments re Lisa to Adrienne. Of all people to stick up for Lisa...Adrienne? That was bizarre but she's right, Brandi does need to take responsibility for her actions rather than try to pass them off onto someone else. Kyle...well thankfully she didn't feature very much, but her protestations about not wanting to raise a brat ring hollow: Portia is a bratty, spoilt rotten little girl lacking the charm of her youth. I loved Lisa Rinna's scenes and her admission that the Depends ad paid better than anything she's done in her career and that it saved their bacon...she's a grafter, good for her and much respect for that honesty. Yolanda's scenes were nice and light and her struggle to get into her white jeans was her most likeable scene in a very long time. Lisa continues her streak of fabulous, that pink sapphire ring was divine. Getting her other housekeeper by giving her a ride? Very cute. It was a good episode, nice and light, like the Housewives franchises of the somewhat distant past.

If that's your reasoning for not believing a woman when she says she's been sexually assaulted, then I really don't know what to say. I'm speechless. And I'm done with this thread.

Yes, I can blame people for not believing Janice. I don't really know what lies she's apparently told, and I have followed her career and life for a long time. If it's the "I'm the world's first supermodel" thing, that's her opinion, that's not a lie. Janice brought her receipts and has told the truth. She's a ballsy woman, she's been through it all and survived. And now she's having her justice. At last.

There you go Janice, way to go on the pictures. Of all things for a model to have. Hopefully that shuts people up about her. With barely anything on and a wedding rig on his finger, Cosby is a piece of work.

You just can't beat those receipts.

You made a comment in an earlier post about her father being interested in her. You do realize Janice's father was a pedophile who sexually assaulted her two sisters for years and beat Janice when she refused to have sex with him, something her sisters and first husband corroborated?

Anytime you attack someone whose made an allegation of rape about their choice of plastic surgeon, it really undermines whatever credibility you might have been clinging to. You're slut shaming her and that isn't right. And not for nothing, but her plastic surgeon, the late Dr. Frank Ryan, was a wonderful person and someone I really liked and admired. Janice has had a lot of therapy. A lot. And she's been through the mill. After a while, a lot of people don't feel that disturbed about what's happened to them, they've learned to cope. As Julie Chen said on The Talk, when Janice mentioned "a patchwork robe" something about the look on her face and the way she said it and that specific detail, it struck me as authentic. And just because Janice has had a lot of affairs and done a lot of drugs doesn't mean she wasn't sexually assaulted. That attitude is slut shaming.

BH It was a very solid premiere episode...seeing Adrienne, Camille and Taylor was interesting, for the Botox observations alone. Kyle continues the same whiney, victim, woe is me crap she's been pulling for years, as if anyone cares anymore. I just find Kyle so tiresome. Her reunion with Lisa is doomed to fail. She's not over anything and she's jealous as hell. Kim's drunk/pilled out ass really didn't need to surface. I didn't notice she was missing for 3/4 of the episode. Brandi is trash. Messy, stupid, immature trash. She's 42, her kind of crap isn't cute anymore. Brandi has no whit or natural social charm. She's like a canker sore. I'm glad Lisa said Brandi burned that bridge. Good! Lisa Rinna is a delight. I have always liked her. Yolanda, selling the same faux bliss as usual. Yawn. Lisa continues to be my absolute favourite. She just makes so much sense to me. If someone wrongs you, decide if you want them in your life, and if you don't, cut them out. Make your own deals. Old school English common sense. She puts these women off kilter, in the English sensibility Lisa puts to them the premise: you say you're over it: prove it, be over it, stop talking about it and beating a dead horse. And they just can't help themselves, they can't stop doing it because they're not over her at all. They just can't quit Lisa.

I love Janice, despite all her flaws and delusions of grandeur. And I believe her too.

Absolutely. It's a fabulous picture and the writer is a major hater. It must be hard to be a nobody, so thirsty to be a somebody, that you'd have to stoop to writing a nasty article about someone whose made it?

Exactly. Kyle hasn't been relevant since her season 1 fight with Camille and her "You're a liar and sick and an alcoholic!" to Kim. She's certainly not the main draw for this show: she isn't the star and she never has been. Her tagline infers that she has a private plane and yacht, and we know that isn't true. She lives in that mediocre house in that part of Bel Air that's a heck of a lot closer to Sherman Oaks than it is to Beverly Hills, a stone's throw from Robin Strasser's house, and has some McMansion in La Quinta on a golf course in the middle of nowhere. Kyle and Kim are the kind of housewives that could be dropped and you'd never notice they weren't there.

Very good point. That updo is very 90s Kristen and not in the best way.

Lisa V's is epic. Yolanda's is generic. Lisa R's displays a winning sly humour. Eileen's is funny. Kim's is stupid. Brandi's is untrue. Kyle's tries to make her more than she is, as usual.