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Oops, got my strikes mixed up. Thanks for the correction.

Ok but what actors from OLTL were on any of those other shows with him? That's what the thread is about.

Yes. After the sitcoms Archie/One Day/Alice/Jeffersons

Well that was 20 years earlier. Maybe Burke was one of those actors that couldn't deal with the rigors of daytime, having to learn scripts quickly, not much rehearsal, multiple scenes in a day etc

Josh - can you believe that CBS is actually airing the scripts I have Chat GPT whip up? Michelle- I know it's hilarious!

That was the season that began late because of a writers strike. CBS had replayed the first 5 episodes and episodes leading up to Who shot JR? The schedule was still a mixture of new episodes, specials,TV movies and repeats. Mon ABC win Football #19 CBS Flo/ Ladies Man /Mash Rpt #11/12/17. NBC Little House #18 Tues CBS win Election night so no series that night. Wed CBS win Dukes of Hazzard special ep @8 which was a spinoff to Enos 29 share and the Love at First Bite movie #12. ABC 2hr Vegas premiere which scored a 25 share. NBC won 8pm with Real People #16 and then Pt 1 of Alcatraz The Whole Shocking Story had a 16.9 rating Thurs CBS win TV Movie Scared Straight Another Story 27 share before Dallas rpt #9. NBC had Pt 2 of Alcatraz but ABC That's Incredible special #14 Barney Miller #21 and It's a Living #25 Fri CBS win Incredible Hulk 31 share Dallas #4 and #2 . ABC Benson/I'm A Big Girl Now improved scored in 2nd week of new episodes Sat ABC win 90 min Love Boat/Fantasy Island Sun CBS win All shows in Top 8 ABC Spy Who Loved Me #20. NBC All the Presidents Men 13.6/19

So many 'old' people throughout that episode. A few years later anyone over 50 were pretty much axed or marginalized. And a lot was lost in the process.

Hidden Faces Martha Logan Ensley ...Louise Shaffer

Seems Wilbur (John Towey) has recently married young heroine Martha(Louise Shaffer in her first soap role) but devious Kelly (Mary Bracken Phillips)is trying to hold on to him by threatening to reveal their past .Wilbur's mother Grace (Ludi Claire) is the possessive type. Martha's sister Kate (Gretchen Walther) is the other heroine involved with lead Arthur Adams (Conard Fowkes) John Towey is still alive -83 years old and has along list of credits. Ludi Claire had worked on Edge so Vendig was familiar with her. NBC had Hidden Faces in development for a while but went ahead when they lost Let's Make A Deal. I'm sure it was intended as their answer to Edge of Night and would have been slotted later in the day but for the need for a show in the 1.30 timeslot. From that scene and other pics the sets looked good and they used orchestral music rather than organ still being used on P&G soaps.

Veronica Redd is only 74. I had in my mind she would be much older by now. It would be great to see Victoria/Dru back-maybe a fantasy sequence where Lily imagines her mom was still alive. As for VR coming back full time,I think the ship has sailed. It would mean another BFTD story and with the current writing that would be awful. And I'm sure they're nervous in the current climate to have an outspoken actress whose views are known. They'd be tip toeing around to accommodate her. Better in their minds to avoid any possible issues. It's a pity they wait for special events to bring people back. Should be part of day to day storytelling. A lot of actors seem quite happy to pop in.

And Portugal of all places. Why not just somewhere in the US? It's not like Daniel will ever visit them anyway. So Daniel, Heather and Lucy are at Society when Phyllis swoops in. Meanwhile billionaire Victor is propped up in front of a laptop at Crimson Lights. Would have been better to swap those 2 around. At least Society has some pretense of style. No wonder CL is always empty. Not very enticing to sit in a cafe with a robot a spart of the decor,especially when said robot looks like a kids failed school project. Are we supposed to feel sympathy for Phyllis as she stirs up trouble from one scene to the next?

Jada Rowland The Egg and I

As The World Turns Lisa Miller Hughes Eldredge Shea Colman McCall Mitchell Grimaldi (Chedwyn) Eileen Fulton May 60-64, 65,Jan 67-83, July 84-10 Betsy Von Fursteberg 1980 temp replacement when Eileen Fulton had hepatitis June 83-84 District Attorney Dick Martin dated Claire and Lisa Joe Maross 1966 Ed Kemmer May 1966-70; Feb 1975-78 Dr. Susan Burke Stewart Baxter McDermott Decker alcoholic ex-wife of Dan, Bruce, Larry and serial killer Rick Decker. Mother of Emily and Alison Connie Scott 1966-67 actress was 16/17 at the time Diana Walker 1967 actress was 24 Jada Rowland Nov 1967-68 returned to Secret Storm in May 68 Leslie Perkins 1968 Marie Masters 1968-79; 1986-2010 Judith Barcroft August-September 1978 (Temporary)

Thanks for posting, particularly the 60's and 70's shots. Sadly,in the early 70's Marco St John's wife was murdered in their apartment while he was performing in a play.

Marshall Karp vp of ABC daytime was replaced by Micheal Eisner in Feb 71. Under Karp ABC initiated the 90 min serial block of The Best of Everything/A World Apart/All My Children. With BOE cancelled due to abysmal ratings, AWA struggling resulting in the dismissal of Irna and Katherine Phillips and AMC low rated Karp had to take the blame. Also Dark Shadows dwindled away in the PM.

I wonder who else might have been approached? it's a fairly random list.

The Doctors was Marland's first headwriting stint after working on Another World. Maybe he had difficulty adjusting to a new environment and going to a half hour show. Don't know what his relationship was with the EP, so there could have been a lot of BTS stuff going on. One thing he did say that he learned from TD is that if you come into a show and don't relate to a story you should wrap it up quickly. He was referring to the Matt/Joan Dancy situation which he inherited and continued with even though he didn't enjoy writing it. In retrospect,he wished he had wrapped it up immediately and moved on.

Where The Heart Is Judge...Nov 1971-72...William Prince... Liz Rainey(Harris) Hathaway...Tracey Brooks Swopes Nov 1971-73

CBS 18.2 Mon ABC 17.4 NBC 16.3 Mon ABC win That's Incredible/Movie 'Who Will Love My Children?' starring Ann Margaret.NBC Little House/ Bloopers/Candid Camera. CBS Square Pegs/Filthy Rich/MASH/Newhart/Cagney & Lacey. Tues CBS win Disney/Movie 'Murder in Coweta County'. NBC A Team/Bare Essence 2hr debut. ABC Happy Days/Laverne/3's Company/9to5/Hart to Hart (season low) Wed ABC win Dom DeLuise/Fall Guy/Dynasty. CBS Seven Brides (season high)/ Movie 'Dixie: Changing Habits' . NBC Real People/Facts of Life/FamilyTies/Quincy CBS win Magnum/Simon/Knots (2nd best rating of the season). ABC new sitcoms 'Amanda's' (Bea Arthur) and 'Condo' (McLean Stevenson) dropped from their debut a week earlier Too Close for Comfort/ It Takes Two had best ratings since Dec/Nov respectively/20/20 . NBC Fame/ Gimme a Break (season high) Cheers(season high) Hill St Blues Fri CBS win Dukes/Dallas/Falcon Crest. ABC Benson (tied with Dukes) New Odd Couple/movie'First Family' NBC Powers of Matthew Star/Knight Rider/Remington Steele (2nd best score of the season) Sat ABC win TJ Hooker/Love Boat/Fantasy Island. NBC Diffrent Strokes/Silver Spoons/Mama's Family/Teachers Only/Family Tree CBS Bring m Back alive (season low) Movie 'The Fighter' Sun CBS win 60Min/Bunker/Gloria/Jeffersons/One Day/Trapper John. NBC Disney/Chips.rage of Angels. ABC Voyagers/Matt Houston/Movie 'Star Trek"

Requests Agnes Nixon Mimi Kennedy Mike Hammett Michael Carven Diana Barton James riordan

Aaron Spelling had an exclusive contract with ABC throughout the 70's and into the 80's. Pretty sure he was guaranteed a series on the schedule each year. So there were plenty of hits but some misses along the way: The Colbys Life With Lucy MacGruder and Loud Strike Force BAD Cats Glitter Finder of Lost Loves San Pedro Beach Bums Friends Hollywood Beat Aloha Paradise At Ease Heartbeat And a lot of pilots that were rejected also.

Kristoff St John/ Debbi Morgan - Adam/Chantal Gen Neil/Harmony Y&R

So 11-20 candidates are Lorie Nick Sharon Sheila Phyllis Traci Adam Lauren John Abbott Neil Malcolm Nina Brad Carlton Your thoughts?

#63 and #64 missing from that list - Call to Glory and Berrengers The Robert Kennedy mini-series was a flop. ABC won the week and CBS/NBC tied for 2nd. Strangely Codename Foxfire which had good numbers for the pilot on the previous Sunday didn't debut that Fri in its intended timeslot. Instead NBC showed a Bloopers special. So by the following week a lot of momentum was lost.