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Crimson Lights set is nearly 30 years old. It's due for a reno or retirement.

I'd say that was Friends influence. 90210, Melrose Place, NYPD Blue, ER, Friends influenced soaps in the 1990s the way Dallas and Dynasty influenced soaps in the 1980s.

When I watched 1996 in real time and Bill Bell was alluding to Victor/Christine, I was like "Bill Bell what are you thinking? That's your daughter, and she's half EB age." When I rewatched some of 1995 and 1996, I get why Bill Bell alluded to Victor/Christine. I think Bill Bell original plan was Victor/Nikki/Brad/Ashley quad but since Shari Shattuck did not pass the chemistry tests w/ either EB or Don Diamont, Bill Bell replaced Ashley w/ Christine in the quad. He even dusted off some of the original Victor/Ashley storyline to use w/ Victor/Christine. Thankfully there was very little physical contact between Victor and Christine. If they had gone past a hug I probably would have lost my lunch.

The whole show feels like its in some sort of holding pattern. I can only imagine what February will bring.

NBC game show anniversaries in 2024 January 14 - Caesars Challenge finale 30th anniversary March 24 - Sale of the Century and Super Password finales 35th anniversary June 30 - Wheel of Fortune original run finale 35th anniversary July 2 - Scrabble premiere 40th anniversary September 1 - Win, Lose or Draw finale 35th anniversary September 24 - Super Password premiere 40th anniversary

CBS soap anniversaries in 2024 September 18 - Guiding Light finale 15th anniversary CBS game show anniversaries in 2024 March 31 - Card Sharks finale 35th anniversary June 1 - Tattletales finale 40th anniversary June 4 - Body Language premiere 40th anniversary July 17 - Wheel of Fortune premiere 35th anniversary October 5 - Lets Make a Deal premiere 15th anniversary

ABC soap anniversaries in 2024 January 13 - Ryan's Hope finale 35th anniversary December 28 - The Edge of Night finale 40th anniversary

NBC soap anniversaries in 2024 March 27 - Generations premiere 35th anniversary May 4 - Another World premiere 60th anniversary June 25 - Another World finale 25th anniversary July 5 - Passions premiere 25th anniversary July 30 - Santa Barbara premiere 40th anniversary December 31 - Sunset Beach finale 25th anniversary

@OpportunisticSlut Re: Stephanie, it's the writing that made the difference. Bill Bell wrote Stephanie complex and layered. Bradley made Stephanie one-dimensional.

It's unfortunate that so little of MZ 1971-1980 run is out there. I've accepted we'll probably never see anything prior to 1979. Whatever is out there of Roger and Holly storylines of 1979 and 1980 are must watch because those storylines set in motion so much of what we saw 1989-1991. Even though I never thought of Roger as an anti-hero/romantic leading man, I'd say it was the combination of MZ acting and the writing during the Potter and Calhoun eras that made Roger a complex and layered character and not just a one-dimensional villain.

@1974mdp @OpportunisticSlut I pointed this out in the B&B Old Articles thread, but I think Karen got lost in the shuffle. 1992-1994 B&B had too many females in the early 30s age range (Brooke, Macy, Taylor, Karen, Sheila) and not enough storyline to go around.

If we're counting long-lost twins, some more to add Y&R: Camryn Grimes - Cassie/Mariah B&B: Joanna Johnson - Caroline/Karen GL: Vincent Irizarry - Lujack/Nick

Aww, thanks 🤗 Happy to read I inspired someone.

Also CBS daytime and primetime stars in cross-promotion. The best cross-promotions were the Family Feud soap opera specials and The Price is Right soap themed showcases.

Good topic @Sapounopera That was 90210 influence.

Anyone else a fan of the CBS game show block of 1982-1993? These are the game shows excluding The Price is Right that were a part of the block (I included those that aired at 4 pm). Tattletales (January 18, 1982-June 1, 1984) $25,000 Pyramid (September 20, 1982-December 31, 1987; April 4-July 1, 1988) Child's Play (September 20, 1982-September 16, 1983) Press Your Luck (September 19, 1983-September 26, 1986) Body Language (June 4, 1984-January 3, 1986) Card Sharks (January 6, 1986-March 31, 1989) Blackout (January 4-April 1, 1988) Family Feud (July 4, 1988-September 10, 1993) Now You See It (April 3-July 14, 1989) Wheel of Fortune (July 17, 1989-January 11, 1991) My favorites other than The Price is Right were $25,000 Pyramid; Family Feud, Card Sharks.

It's true, they didn't. The only 1980s wins were Beth Maitland Supporting Actress 1985 and Tracey Bregman Younger Actress 1985. Tracey was also nominated for Younger Actress in 1987. Terry Lester got four Lead Actor nominations (1984-1987) but the Lead Actor fields those years were tough. EB got one Lead Actor nomination (1987), JC got one Lead Actress nomination (1989), and Quinn Redeker got one Supporting Actor nomination (1989).

Y&R reached #1 December 1988. PB debuted November 1989.

It was a pattern across all three CBS primetime soaps in the off the rails plus budget mode years: Salary dump the long-time female cast members and bring on sweet young things hired on the cheap.

New game show Wordplay replaced Search for Tomorrow at 12:30 pm and its run was December 29, 1986 to September 4, 1987. NBC moved Scrabble to 12:30 pm on September 7, 1987, where it remained until March 24, 1989. Scrabble probably was a better lead in for Days than Search for Tomorrow, Wordplay, and Generations were, but I think it's safe to say that Y&R was clobbering it.

@SoapDope Nicollette Sheridan became a main cast member in season 10 and she practically ate the show for the rest of its run. Donna Mills left at the end of season 10 and she was smart to walk away when she did. IMO Knots Landing went off the rails in season 9 after Laura's departure and was effectively over at the end of season 10 when Abby left. 1988-1993 was a chore to get through.

The GL primetime special was 1992 for the 40th anniversary on television. I remember seeing promos celebrating the overall 50th anniversary in 1987.

I never liked PB. He comes across as so smug and thinks he's a better actor than he actually is. PB's first two Lead Actor wins were the results of the fields being weak.

ED 1999 return was in the spring and J. Eddie Peck departed that fall. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think J. Eddie Peck gave an exit interview in one of the soap mags where he said he didn't think he and ED connected as actors.

Not just the primetime soaps, but CBS primetime on the whole was a mess. CBS hung on to the primetime soaps as long as they did because the new dramas they launched from Fall 1985-Fall 1989 that got multiple season runs showed no signs of growth, not to mention a bunch of one season and done dramas. Spring 1988 should have been the end for primetime soaps. It feels like the genre met its natural end point then.