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5 hours ago, Soaplovers said:
Celebrating Victor's 40th anniversary... no thanks...
Y&R gave MTS and PB special episodes for their 40th and 30th anniversaries this year, so they should also give EB a special episode for his 40th anniversary.
So you won't be watching on Monday February 10?
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Y&R had two big losses this decade with the passings of Kristoff St. John and Jeanne Cooper. Both of their tribute episodes were done well.
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You're welcome @Franko . I'm sure you can unearth some more info.
Seeing the schedules of different cities we get ideas as to which network is strongest in each market. It's been posted here over the years that CBS is strong in the Midwest and South and ABC is strong in the Northeast and West Coast. Not sure where NBC fits in regionally.
I've always found it interesting that Y&R's number one CBS station was not one of the flagships (WCBS New York, KCBS Los Angeles), or even WBBM Chicago, considering Y&R films in Los Angeles at CBS Television City and the Bells were based in Chicago for years. I read once that on an international level Y&R's number one station is Global Toronto.
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On 10/29/2019 at 7:20 PM, Franko said:
THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL
-- Not airing on WTVT, the Tampa affiliate, as of Oct. 1989. Eye on Tampa Bay ran at 12:30, followed by Y&R.
The real Brooke Hogan was born in Tampa Bay on May 5, 1988. So her parents didn't get her name from B&B and thus had no idea how their daughter's name would end up being used by soap fan sites/message boards.
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Key dates for the 2020s.
Monday April 27, 2020: Days will surpass As the World Turns and become the third longest running daytime drama on US network television.
Monday June 22, 2020: General Hospital will surpass Guiding Light and become the longest running daytime drama on US network television.
Monday November 9, 2020: Days will mark 55 years on the air (as November 8, 2020 is a Sunday).
Wednesday March 23, 2022: If B&B is still on, this date will mark 35 years on the air.
Monday May 16, 2022: If B&B is still on, it will have had a longer run than Another World on US network television.
Monday July 18, 2022: If B&B is still on, it will have had a longer run than Search for Tomorrow on US network television. B&B surpassed Search for Tomorrow's CBS run on Monday October 16, 2017.
Monday January 30, 2023: If Days is still on, it will have had a longer run than Guiding Light on US network television.
Monday March 27, 2023: If Y&R is still on, this date will mark 50 years on the air (as March 26, 2023 is a Sunday).
Monday April 3, 2023: If General Hospital is still on, this date will mark 60 years on the air (as April 1, 2023 is a Saturday).
Monday November 10, 2025: If Days is still on, this date will mark 60 years on the air (as November 8, 2025 is a Saturday).
Tuesday March 23, 2027: If B&B is still on, this date will mark 40 years on the air.
Monday September 13, 2027: If Y&R is still on, it will have had a longer run than As the World Turns on US network television.
Monday March 27, 2028: If Y&R is still on, this date will mark 55 years on the air (as March 26, 2028 is a Sunday).
Monday April 3, 2028: If General Hospital is still on, this date will mark 65 years on the air (as April 1, 2028 is a Saturday).
Monday December 11, 2028: If B&B is still on, it will have had a longer run than All My Children on US network television.
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More garbage time, yuck.
There better be something amazing on Monday February 10 for Eric Braeden's 40th anniversary. Since his actual anniversary February 8 is a Saturday, I figure the Monday episode will be Eric's anniversary episode.
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The Spellings: Aaron and his spawn Tori and Randy
Susan Lucci/Liza Huber
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I've often wondered if Bill Bell's original intention in 1990 was to pair Brooke with Eric (elements of the Jill/Phillip/Katherine and Jill/Stuart/Liz storylines from Y&R) or if he changed the storyline because KKL became pregnant in real life.
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Now we're at the end of the 1980s and getting to Y&R remaining at #1 until today. It's amazing that Y&R was in so much flux during the 1980s (1 hour expansion, time slot changes, 3 EPs, big cast changes) yet managed to survive and thrive.
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Keesha's race was never stated, but I'm sure it was implied that she was African-American, even though the actresses that portrayed her were of Puerto Rican and Italian heritage respectively.
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10 hours ago, SFK said:
I agree, PB did lovely work in the scene about the baby's heart being donated, I wonder if that was an Emmy year for him.
That scene was from 1993, so PB might have used it in his 1994 Emmy reel.
The 1990 scene that was shown on the 1991 Daytime Emmy broadcast was a Jack/Victor confrontation that got PB his first win and the 1991 scene where shown on the 1992 Daytime Emmy broadcast was Jack confronting Nikki about her drinking that got PB his second win.
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22 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:
TPIR isn't Y&R's lead-in in many markets though. It may have played a part, but is one of many things.
Ironically, Y&R went to #1 and stayed there when H. Wes Kenney went over to GH to produce it. Kenny later said he regretted leaving Y&R for GH.
What lead to H. Wesley Kenney leaving Y&R? I don't recall reading about him and Bill Bell having any type of falling out like Bill Bell had w/ John Conboy 5 years earlier. Like I've said before, H. Wesley Kenney is really the one who laid all the groundwork for Y&R as we know it today, but Ed Scott gets all the credit.
8 hours ago, beebs said:It's so jarring seeing B&B down at #11. It's almost as though CBS viewers forgot to turn their boxes on or something? Bizarre!
5 hours ago, Khan said:Sheila's arrival (from Y&R) really helped B&B in a BIG way.
Consider a couple of things. 1987-1990 B&B was head-to-head w/ supercouple era Days, plus B&B wasn't carried by all CBS affiliates until well into the 1990s. Sheila plus full affiliate clearance kept B&B going when it was head-to-head w/ Reilly Sci-Fi era Days.
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On 11/18/2019 at 8:24 AM, BetterForgotten said:
One thing is for certain, Y&R's eventual dominance wasn't a fluke occurrence. Throughout the 80's, they were consistent and broke through the ABC dominance for most of the early part of the decade.
They maintained their audience (for the most part) by the end of the 80's when other soaps started to lose it. Oddly, Y&R was the soap in its own bubble that didn't follow all the trends most soaps would - other than some great timeslots, I have to wonder if that's what the average viewer ultimately appreciated. God knows they're coasting off that past reputation to this day.
31 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:Looking at these ratings, it seems Y&R's #1 status was becoming inevitable, even if other soaps were sometimes nipping at its heels. They really held up throughout the 80's and cut right through the ABC dominance, to the point where they would topple GH completely by the end of the decade.
1987-1989 Y&R was in a bit of a transition. There was the EP change from H. Wesley Kenney to Ed Scott, and three major cast departures (Brenda Dickson, Eileen Davidson, Terry Lester). While all this was happening off screen, Cricket was eating the show onscreen. Yet Y&R still managed to reach #1 and stay there until today.
Having The Price is Right as it's lead in probably played a big part in Y&R's rise to and staying at #1. Bob Barker once said about TPiR being the lead-in for Y&R that "without us Young and Restless would be Old and Lethargic".
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On 11/16/2019 at 10:56 AM, KMan101 said:
"Who is Donny" ... oh EB, I love you on social media.
And once again, EB is just keeping it way too real and I love it
5 hours ago, Khan said:Guess it's time for Lauren's doppelganger to make another appearance?
3 hours ago, Khan said:At this rate, I expect we'll be introduced to Victor's lookalike in 2020!
Do not give Josh Griffith ideas :shudder
2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:And I can imagine Eric Braeden telling them that if they think he's going to do double the work at the same salary, they can kiss his German-American a$s, lol, right as he high-steps it off to his 4 week European vacay!
Oh hells yes that would so happen
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5 hours ago, will81 said:
Y&R really stepped it up in 1986 which is no surprise considering what was going on that year on the show. The resolution of the Jill/John/Jack story which had been playing out since 1983, the Ashley/Victor/Nikki triangle, Lauren and psycho Shawn, Who shot Jill. It was a really solid year.
The first half of 1986 was probably the zenith of the Bill Bell/H. Wesley Kenney era. Then Cricket came on full time and proceeded to eat the show.
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Heads up, Peter Bergman is going to be on The Talk on Friday November 15. It's related to his upcoming 30th anniversary on Y&R.
MTS was on The Talk for her 40th anniversary in February, but I don't remember either Joshua Morrow or Sharon Case appearing on The Talk for their 25th anniversaries in June and September respectively.
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@soapfan770 Silly me, why didn't I see that before I posted. Thanks
On a different note, there had to have been some NBC stations in the 1980s and 1990s that aired Days in the late afternoon to get the kids coming home from school.
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@VanessaReardon The ratings posts are a great look back at daytime history
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On 11/5/2019 at 4:08 PM, edgeofnik said:
@Franko LLB did a promo for KMOV that proclaimed that STL was the #1 market for Y&R. The move to 4 pm was in reaction to Oprah and the ratings for Y&R was quite huge. It lasted almost 30 years in the slot until a new company bought the affiliate and moved it. It's too bad because when I'd go back to visit my mom, it was always a good 'shared' experience at that time of day.
I wonder how many other CBS affiliates aired Y&R outside the usual 12:30-4/11-3 block in order to beat Oprah. I remember reading during the New Orleans remote that their CBS station had the most Y&R viewers.
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Bill Bell used his first name and names of his family members for Y&R/B&B characters: ie. William (Bill) Foster, Phillip Chancellor II, Brad Elliott, Lauralee Brooks, Brad Carlton, William (Bill) Spencer, William (Billy) Abbott. I once read Bill Bell took the name Ridge from a college classmate of Bradley Bell.
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In an another I can't believe it's happening moment, November will mark Peter Bergman's 30th anniversary on Y&R. I wonder if we will get a Jack-focused episode around Thanksgiving.
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11 hours ago, Darn said:
Seeing Blake again in the 90s reminds me how badly cast I always thought Elizabeth Keifer were. I started watching the show years after she was on it and I refused to believe she was meant to be Holly's daughter. They looked the same age! And Maureen Garrett acted more youthful!
I wonder who else was considered for the Blake recast in 1992. I think it was posted either in this thread or the "They Almost Became" thread that Elizabeth Keifer originally auditioned for Eve but was cast as Blake instead. I can't think of any other soap names that were available during spring/summer 1992.
10 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:The right ingredients of actress and character writing just came together with Sherry Stringfield. She'll always be my Blake and the one that left the biggest impression on me
Same here.
9 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:Now I wonder if the casting of Kiefer was to make Ross seem more youthful.
I don't think so, seeing as how Elizabeth Keifer was already 30 when she started on GL.
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B&B didn't air on all CBS affiliates until maybe the mid-1990s.
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The Preemption/Out of Pattern Thread
in Discuss The Soaps: Archive (2021 - 2023)
Posted · Edited by kalbir
B&B in the Northwest states is interesting. As far as Washington goes, Spokane and Yakima aired it from day 1 it seems (there was a 1990 episode posted in the B&B old articles thread that was recorded from the CBS station in Yakima) but Seattle didn't air B&B until 1994. I think Portland was another city that didn't air B&B until the mid-1990s, but I'm not sure about the rest of Oregon or even Idaho.