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  1. 16 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

    Too bad Robert Calhoun didn't stick around for much longer or work longer with the Curlee/Demorest team. He really deserves credit for re-positioning this show and for grounding Pam Long's material in her second stint (which is far superior to her first, IMO).

     

    I agree, Calhoun/Curlee/Demorest would have been amazing. He really laid all the ground work but sadly it's Jill Farren Phelps that got all the credit for it and as we all know, eventually undid everything.

     

    From what I've seen, Robert Calhoun was EP from June 1989 to sometime in the first half of 1991, so only two years at the most.

     

    Had we gotten a Calhoun/Curlee/Demorest dream team so to speak, I think Beverlee McKinsey might not have walked in Summer 1992 and Maureen Bauer wouldn't have been killed off in early 1993.

     

  2. 2 hours ago, cassadine1991 said:

    Did DePaiva leave on her own or was she axed?

     

    I believe Kassie DePaiva left GL on her own choice. She was part of a cast purge in early 1991 that also saw the departures of Grant Aleksander, Beth Chamberlin, Robert Newman, and Michael O'Leary.

  3. 8 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

     

    Of the two producers, Calhoun was certainly the Soap Savior and Jill was the Soap Killer. Many producers have coasted on the success generated by others over the decades, JFP being one of them.

     

    That was why I asked earlier if Robert Calhoun left GL on his own choice or if P&G terminated him. In hindsight, if it was a termination, that was a stupid move on P&G's part. 

     

    Add to the producer coasting list Laurence Caso (off of Robert Calhoun and Douglas Marland), and to a lesser extent Edward Scott (off of H. Wesley Kenney).

     

     

  4. Nobody answered me earlier re Robert Calhoun.

     

    From what I've either watched when it originally aired, or rewatched online years later, it seems to me that Robert Calhoun laid all the groundwork but Jill Farren Phelps got all the credit. The 1991/1992 brief ratings rise was under her watch if I'm not mistaken. 

  5. 20 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

    I remember all I wanted to do was just see all those episodes, and I'm glad so many have surfaced! haha.

     

    Haha very funny. 1980s Y&R is impossible to find. Sony/CBS needs to dig into the vaults any maybe release some DVDs or a streaming channel. Then again, I don't think they want the viewers watching reruns and missing the current episodes.

  6. 14 hours ago, SoapDope said:

    Bug was sucking up air time as usual. 

     

    Yeah, Cricket ate the show in the late 1980s. That era also coincided with the departures of Brenda Dickson, Eileen Davidson, and Terry Lester.

     

    I know Brenda and Terry were quite vocal about the nepotism. Eileen not so much, but I've always suspected that's the reason she left the first time.

  7. I didn't like a good number of the storylines from Fall 1996 through the first half of 1997. I was watching maybe a couple times a week back then, but I still followed along online and through the soap magazines.

     

     

     

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    2 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

    Bill Bell acknowledged in interviews that he would have kept the Brooks family around, until Jaime Lyn Bauer also decided to quit.  That was the last straw which made him decide to overhaul the show and eliminate many of the original core characters and replace them with the Abbott and Williams families, Victor Newman, etc., as the new focus.

     

     

    By the early 1990s, the Abbotts were almost all recasts, the Williams family was almost all gone, and the Newman family expanded.

  9. YRfan23, thanks so much for the December 1989 episodes.

     

    I believe Peter Bergman's first episode was about a week or so prior to the ones you posted. You wouldn't happen to have Victor and Jack's first scene with Peter Bergman as Jack do you?

     

    From watching these episodes, Peter Bergman is trying so hard to emulate Terry Lester (RIP) but it's not working.

     

    Brenda Epperson was still relatively new as Ashley here, she had only been on about a year at this point. I believe Eileen Davidson left around October or November 1988 and Brenda started shortly after. I remember on Christmas 1998 CBS aired the episode from December 23, 1988 and Brenda was playing Ashley then.

     

     

  10. On ‎09‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 6:12 PM, SoapDope said:

    I know it is impossible to release all of the episodes on DVD, but they could do a  a 70's box set, a 80's box set etc....of some of the most memorable moments. Streaming online or airing them on a retro channel like RTV does with The Doctors would be even better to see a full run. 

     

    If there was a channel somewhere airing 1980s and 1990s Y&R I would so watch that.

     

    Maybe it's me, but I never felt Y&R became a pop culture phenomenon in the 1980s and 1990s the way General Hospital was in the late 1970s/early 1980s and Days was during the supercouple and Reilly years. I don't recall Soap Opera Digest or People releasing special commemorative issues for Y&R's 40th anniversary in 2013 the way they did for General Hospital's 50th anniversary that same year and Days's 50th anniversary in 2015.

  11. 43 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

    I wish Sherry Stringfield had gotten to play these scenes.

     

    I get that they were trying to say the love of Ross matured/tamed Blake, but because Keifer couldn't play the character with edge, it made it feel like they were whitewashing how awful Blake had been to Holly and almost as if everything was Holly's fault.

     

     

    BetterForgotten, I hope you're enjoying the summer 1990 episodes that have surfaced on YT. I'm hoping that poster uploads the next two years, so much more good stuff awaits.

     

    Do you think the Blake recast took away the scheming homewrecker aspect of the character? I wonder who else GL considered when the role was recast. That character needed a Michelle Stafford/Kimberlin Brown type of actress I'd say.

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    I hadn't watched any clips for a long time due to regular life getting in the way, but since I'm on vacation I spent some time rewatching fall/winter 1989, and early 1990.

    I had forgotten there were some hints dropped of a potential Alan-Michael/Blake affair at the end of 1989 and then the actual affair began in February 1990. I thought Carl T. Evans's Alan-Michael looked like a little boy next to Sherry Stringfield's Blake. Then in the summer Alan-Michael was recast with Rick Hearst and he at least looked like a grown man.

    Roger/Alexandra was also beginning at this time, leading to their marriage in the spring. That pairing was more cat-and-mouse/power play. I didn't think there was any great love between them.

     

    So I'm watching scenes from GL on youtube from 1990, and it's very interesting to see this GL versus the one that it became under JFP/Curlee. With Calhoun/Long at the helm, it seemed like there was some potential of a AC/Mindy romance, or even a Mindy/AC/Rick triangle, you also had Josh/Harley, and Blake/Alan-Michael, all of which would change for the next year or so with AC/Harley, Blake/Ross, Mindy and the intro of Nick, Beth/Rick/Phillip and Josh being written off. You had Sam Marler also in some pivotal storylines under Calhoun/Long compared to JFP/Curlee. 

    Summer 1990 to spring 1991 was a big transition period, but I thought the show actually got better when all was said and done. Sadly by the end of summer 1992 all the momentum was gone.

     

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