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I think that type (the slightly ambitious morally corrupt male) was ever evolving on Santa Barbara. In some ways, I think that Jack Lee replaces that archetype later followed by Kirk Cranston and eventually Keith Timmons. Granted, each of those characters had different shadings to them I feel they are sorta similar, though I'd be open to discussion on why I am wrong lol Someone who once worked in the industry suggested that Mr. Bottoms' name was innuendo, which given the twisted sense of humor that Dobsons had I wouldn't be surprised. In the Bible, Ted was a more morose character and it was proposed that he would have an affair with his teacher (I am not sure if she was named or not) with the suggestion that Ted's interest in the teacher was a bit of an Oedipus complex due to the death of Sophia, as I don't think the original plan was for Sophia to come back from the dead. This is how I feel about the subject. She didn't have to take the role. She made a choice. Twenty years later, an actress her age would have been signed automatically to a four year contract on a soap. Additionally, I feel more sorry for her colleagues (especially her romantic interests) who's stories may have stalled because she was off filming.

After a million and one jobs, Mike had taken a position at Alden Enterprises in the security offices, I believe. I think it was part of Shana's attempt to mold Mike into the man she wanted him to be. It is an interesting concept since Mike had previously been involved wiht Ann and Ann was involved at AE. I'm not sure if any of these dynamics were handled effectively. At the same time, there was some union issues at the Alden plant and Mike became involved. What we saw was the end of the union meeting with Mike agreeing to help bridge the gap between the workers and the AE elite. It was a bump in the relationship between Mike and Shana before Noreen returns in a few weeks. I don't think these minor characters would have appeared very often as the factory is pretty quickly ignored again. The factory issues may have been incited by Dane in part of his coup to take over AE. I don't think all of those layers really come across in this episode. I agree that Jack, Stacey, Curtis, and Ava could have gone on forever with characters being weaved into their unit. Ava manipulating Lilly into breaking up with Jack and Stacey while Curtis was also secretly pursuing Lilly while being married to Ava or recently divorced might have been fun as well.

I appreciated the density in the March 1985 episode. I have seen a bit of episodes from this period and I really think Marland's final months were incredibly strong. Marland always manages to pack a lot into an episode without it seeming overcrowded to me. There was some nice nuance in the scenes involving Gwyn and Dane as I don't think they have become bedfellows yet, but the growing attraction between them is evident. Jim telling Ava that if you love someone you want them happy while Mike comforts Shana in the waiting room. The not so subtly, but nicely done moment with Ann commenting on Gwyn's loneliness while Gwyn stares on at Dane holding Ann. I thought the use of "Nothing's Gonna Change My Love For You" worked for both Jack and Stacey as well as Tony and Rita Mae. Tony and Rita Mae has been a hidden gem in the slew of 1985 episodes I have seen. I really enjoy the pairing, but I am not really sure where they would have gone after the initial age difference. I forgot that they had Rita Mae go to AU as part of her new life post Billy. I think this was one of the first stories that was dropped when Marland left. The Ava scenes were great. I do find Roya Megnot mesmerizing, if not also a bit over the top at times. I could definitely see them using that line about "I want it all" in a commercial for this week's episodes. I am curious how Patty Lotz, who was more reserved and tomboyish, would have managed this material or if Marland would have gone in a different direction as I don't think the pregnancy plot started until Megnot was in the role for a few weeks. I enjoy the clear the build up to Dane takeover Alden Enterprises after spending months of negotiating and manipulating situations. I do think the fall out of this had the potential to be really good, but that would come down to the day to day execution. I think the emotional fallout is potent as Gwyn has sided with Dane, Dane has maneuvered himself into marrying Ann in order to gain her stock, and he still, I believe, is trying to get into good graces with Jack. I wish there was a bit of either Dane / Jack or even Dane / Ava in these scenes as Ava eventually secures the money from Dane to buy Johnny from her sister Sherri and Sherri's husband, Tug Watley. Stacey is definitely more effective in this role rather being quickly married off to Jack. I am curious how Marland would have handled Stacey had he continued. In some ways, I feel that he has maneuvered Stacey into the role that was originally envisioned for Merrill by Agnes Nixon, the young woman involved with a married man. Stacey's conflict over her religion (only slightly alluded to by Jim Vochek in his scenes with Ava) worked well. The reference to Stacey and Tony's failed wedding was a reminder of how quickly the show moved. I believe the wedding had only been two months earlier at the start of January and now Tony and Rita Mae are together and Jack and Stacey are in the midst of their (emotional?) affair. Hoping to see more from this period at some point.

I am curious as well. The setup with the former reporter turned stay at home dad husband with the rising politician is very interesting. I'll be curious to see the write up for the husband. It has been so rare to feature two African American males in a romantic relationship (I can only think of Chad and Vincent/Valerie on "Passions"). On a side note, I forgot how misleading the press is even involving soap operas. Leading with a gay African American president is only going to bring out a contigent of people who are going to latch onto that in a negative way. Besides, Marcus isn't the president. I'd be curious if they have been cast or whether because this seems to be the second tier of casting that different people are handling it. With all the producers involved, I wouldn't be surprised if they are sharing the wealth. Or you are right and they have already cast. Patrick was described in the first round of casting sides, but wasn't being cast until this round. I think someone even speculated that Obba Babatunde had already been cast in the role, but it seems that this wasn't the case though I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up being the case still. So I would say that they weren't cast yet. The other thing to remember are things change in the process. Jillian and Marcus' spouses could possibly be in the next round or the characters might go in a different direction. I am curious whether the other third generation Jackson, Cheryl, will appear in the beginning or whether she will be offscreen initially. I have questions based on what's been revealed. I can't tell if Stacy and Sam are a married couple or are involved with other people. Do Stacy, Courtney, Diane, Sara, and Jessica make up the social circle that is eluded to in the Elizabeth's description? If so, I think having a sort of tight social network like the ones featured on the "Housewives" series would be a smart, fresh dynamic for daytime which I would embrace. I am also rather surprised that Elizabeth actually loves Joseph, which is a refreshing from the usual scheming and devious mistresses. There is definite underdog potential if cast properly. The political network with Patrick and Marcus with crossover potential with Joseph and Jillian is very interesting to me. Still very excited about he potential here. As others have said, casting is going to be key.

Thanks @slick jones. Paul Raven posted that article back in 2020. I probably should have replied to it when I found the series. Here's the article talking about the extension of the series as well as the cancellation. Cast list for "To Have and To Hold" as of week 1: Joyce Gordon as Emily Carter William Redfield as Dr. Marshall Foster Patricia Wheel as Angela Fairchild. R.N. Larry Haines as Dr. Jason Carter Charita Bauer as Ginger Foster Arianne Munker as Susie Carter Ian Martin as Robert Carter Carin Greene as Betsy Foster Fran Allison (I suspect she is playing Caroline Carter, but Caroline hasn't appeared yet and Fran hasn't been credited).

This afternoon, I was doing radio soap research and stumbled across nearly the complete run of Radio Playhouse. @Paul Raven posted an article in a thread many years back about it. Radio Playhouse ran from August 4, 1975-February 27, 1976. It ran for 30 consecutive weeks. The original run order was 26 weeks, but an additional 4 weeks were ordered in order to examine the ratings. When the ratings came back, the sponsor, Bristol-Meyer, immediately pulled sponsorship causing the series to be cancelled. Of the four series, two of them fall into the category of traditional soap operas. The first is the opening show, The Faces of Love, about a young widow who is trying to rebuild her life after the complicated death of her husband, Tom Wakefield, in the town of Bellhaven. Other characters in the story include Tom's well respected, wheel chair bound father, Arthur Wakefield, and Arthur's many times married/divorced sister Isabelle Wakefield. The main love interests for Kate (who in the early part of the run is played by Joan Lorring, and later by Morgan Fairchild) are reporter David Sloane (Mason Adams) and ne'er do well playboy Tony Cushing (Nat Polen). The story is structured (at least in the first week) around Arthur's plans to open a nature conservatory in the name of his late son, despite his son's colorful life, which has yet to be explained. The second series (and not traditional soap opera) is Author's Studio, which covers the serialization of the novel Vanity Fair. I haven't been able to listen to much because its just not something I'm interested in stylistically. The third series is very quaint comic anthology show The Little Things in Life around the Baxters, who are pretty average couple dealing with life events like being invited to pool parties and attending weddings with a slight twist. It's much more enjoyable than I feel it should be. The final show is from Richard and Suzanne Holland, To Have & To Hold, which is a sorta mix of General Hospital and Love of Life. The cast on this one is rather large (definitely influenced by the half-hour televised versions), but there are one notable standout is Charita Bauer as Virginia "Ginger" Foster, the ambitious neurotic married to Dr. Marshall Foster. The show opens with a lunch between two sisters, Angela Fairchild (a nurse) and Emily Carter (a psychology student) which dovetails into a medical mystery involving Emily. Emily is also married to a doctor, Jason Carter (Larry Haines). Their daughter is Susie Carter (probably Arianne Muenker) who is friendly with the Fosters "wild child" daughter, Betsy. (EDIT) There is also Robert Carter, Jason's father, who has remarried a woman that the sisters don't approve of, Caroline. At present, Caroline and Lynn Carter (Robert's younger daughter) are off skiing in Europe after Lynn's annulment which has left her feeling depressed. The main crux of conflict is Emily's medical crisis and Ginger's intense unfounded belief that Marshall and Angela are carrying on an affair. Angela and Marshall definitely have feelings for one another, but Angela isn't interested in pursuing an affair. Additionally, Susie seemed to have a flirtation with a new guy in town, Eric. The Faces of Love is all right, but To Have & To Hold is really fun. Unfortunately, the only episode that is missing is the final episode, so whether or not the story was resolved or left open may never be known, but given the quick cancellation, I would suggest it was all up in the air.

It might have been one of Reva's finest moments. I think Ray Virta appeared more during the Joshua is a minister story, but I could be wrong. I don't recall Schultz being used again as the minister.

I looked up information available in the papers on Curtis' accident. It sounds pretty awful. He and his girlfriend were driving when they were rear-ended by another vehicle. This caused the car to go over the guardrail flipping in the process. His girlfriend was the driver and I think it said he was in the back seat. Both were injured, but his were worst.

This probably was in response to the storyline where Grant Alexander's D.J. Phillips had Kelly Harper addicted to pills. I think that would have been 1986. Only in the Reagan 80s would your PSA present a serious medical issue as a serious economic threat to the private sector. Wild. Almost makes you want to edit Conboy's title to producer of Capital. I'd be curious how long after Todd Curtis' accident this was. Do we know what caused the car accident? Thanks @DRW50.

Armand Schultz played the role on July 25, 2002, at Richard Winslow's funeral, not Rick and Mel's wedding. I probably thought it was a wedding because of the joy I felt over Richard's death.

Reverend Ruthledge delivered the sermon at Ross Marler's funeral: I would say that it is Ray Virta. Here is an episode from May 17, 2007. Reverend Ruthledge appeared with Josh and Reva. I'd say that was Ray Virta. I think Armand Schultz was the original actor earlier in the decade, but I could be wrong.

May Merisi, everyone's favorite cigarette girl. Yeah, it must have been Labine. I wasn't sure so thanks for clarifying.

Reverend Rutledge of the 2000s was introduced earlier. I believe Millee Taggart had Rutledge first appear as the officiant at Rick and Mel's wedding. He was at somone's wedding. I thought it was established than that the character was supposed to be the grandson of the original, which as stated was a stretch. Dependening on when that Meta speech was (I cannot remember if it was under Labine or under Gold/Dunn/Taggart), there may have been a connection

Barry is there until the end of 1993/early 1994. Nixon writes out her Isabelle. Looking at Kane's blog, he has January 3, 1994, as Barry's last date. Beck didn't appear in 1994. Only the back of the head was seen in the 1994 sequence. The date for Harry in 1994 is accurate. He also appeared March 28-April 18, 1994.

I think there was space to tell a Lily's return story that involved the unfinished business with Jack as there story was abruptly ended because of a network mandate. While it isn't unusual for Loving to strip characters of their personality and backstories upon a return, making the conscious choice to make an incest survivor into an seductress is not one I would have made personally. Honestly, I have to wonder if Bill Levinson was leading the team when that story started. Helfer had played Marland´s precursor to Lily on A New Day in Eden so I think she could have handled that backstory. Stacey being a reporter would have worked better than a novelist. It would have given her more agency on the canvas. I think Jack and Stacey could have worked, but the show really needed to delve deeper into their characterization. Jack was the scion of an affluent East Coast clan with ties to higher education, politics, and the corporate world, but was the biological son of a man who was born on the wrong side of the tracks and managed to raise his status in life. Dane and the Aldens were enemies. That is a fascinating dynamic that should have fueled the show for years, but it didn´t which leads me to suspect that Dane as Jack´s father was a Marland choice, though Dane could also be considered a Nick Davis for the 1980s. With her large Irish Catholic family, with a strong sense of right and wrong, becoming involved with someone who has money and power could have caused her to question her morals. Alex masquerading as Clay isn´t a story I would have told, but there are elements that I don´t mind. I find the general outline though sounds like a watered down General Hospital plot. I think Alex´s relationship with the Aldens after the truth comes out is pretty special, but I am not sure it was a necessary story to tell. I didn´t watch Loving in real time, but later when I was able to access the material through soap dvd sites so I knew Jack was killed. Most of the consecutive Loving material starts in October, 1991, and, by that point, the best days (worst?) are over. I'd love to see Jack and Dinahlee's "affair" as Lauren Marie Taylor never let Stacey forgive Dinahlee for that. I thought the idea of Jack and Stacey moving into the mansion and then Isabelle Alden returning in the form of the sublime Celeste Holms as some sorta Cabot/Isabelle combo would have been great to see play out. Their final stories as a couple in 1992 were not my favorite (Stacey investigates the Tides and falls for Trucker while Jack gets taken for a ride by John Schneider's Larry Lamont dud diet product Take Off! was underdeveloped. Post-Jack, Stacey's life is pretty boring for about a year. The Jeremy / Stacey romance was clearly a shift based on the fact that Trisha was leaving (I believe the plan was Jeremy/Trisha based on how Jeremy's 1991 visit went). I thought Stacey's Victorian marriage of convenience to Clay didn't play to Lauren Marie Taylor's strengths. It was a situation Trisha would have found herself in, not Stacey. Buck and Stacey were fun, but they were more fun when it was Buck and Stacey and Gwyn. I was less interested in Tess. Buck didn't work outside of Stacey for me, so ultimately I could take him or leave him. Phillip Brown was more than decent, but Buck was Trucker's secret half-brother, Curtis' old military buddy, and in cahoots with Tess to snag Trisha's money. It was all just too much. I really like what I've read and what I've seen of Marland's Loving, but I do think Nixon needed to write the first two years in order to establish the flavor of the show. Marland's style is too different. The corporate world that Marland had built up in those final months and the number of side stories wouldn't have been sustainable under other writers.

The way I look at Ava is she matured a bit with Lisa Peluso in the role. Not because Peluso was a better actress, but simply the nature of her story changed. Pairing Ava with Alex, who wasn't a man with money, sorta forced her to shift her priorities. I think there was a bit of a realClay/Ava pairing, but the audience wanted Ava/Alex. To keep Ava relevant, she could no longer be the coquettish young woman using her sexual attraction to manipulate men the way she had in the past. I'm not the biggest fan of Addie Walsh's 1992 run, but I think putting Ava at Burnell's was a smart move to position her back into a place where she was able to exert some manipulation while also being more than just a young woman who slept her way to the top. In theory, I think bringing Lily Slater back was a smart move, but I think the execution left a lot to be desired. Personally, I would have done Lily / Curtis as the pairing with Jack using his previous history with Lily to try to get insight into Curtis' plan for AE. Additionally, I would have had Lily forced to deal with her past by arriving in Corinth to sell the family home with Stacey acting as the real estate agent. I think eventually, Stacey's real estate career would take off and she would be drawn into a business relationship with Dane Hammond, which would have escalated the conflict in Jack about where his loyalties lie. As Stacey becomes more independent, Jack would become more drawn to docile Lily, who would be staying at the Alden mansion as Ann's houseguest given that Lily's mother recently died and Ann could use something to do. Once Curtis and Lily were engaged, then I would have let Lily I don't think the actors are given a lot of opportunities to shine during this period so I won't jump to much conclusions on Hefler's acting. The material from the strike involving Jim and the homeless shelter is more appealing to me. I know there were people that like the Lily and Jack affair so I am curious how I would feel watching it play out day to day. I agree. Jack and Stacey tend to be very bland, which is a shame because Lauren Marie Taylor could give Stacey such a sense of spunk and spirit that is often drowned out by banal dialogue and color by numbers storytelling. I think the best I've seen them is when Stacey and Jack are having their affair during Jack's marriage to Ava, but that was more due to Stacey's internal conflict over being this good Catholic girl who was bedding down with a married man. I also don't think making Stacey a romance novelist did her any favors. Raised with two older brothers, tomboy Stacey never comes of as the type. I really wish a grander attempt was made at Stacey and Curtis. I think Christopher Marcantel and Lauren Marie Taylor could have been Gwyn and Clay of their generation if they at least played them for a minute longer before committing to Stacey and Jack.

Thanks @DRW50. I find the post Marland years hit or miss until about Jacquie Babbin's arrival, but it always good to see something different. I feel like Ralph Ellis' work tends to better in the grand scope of weeks at a time rather than single episodes, at least that was the case with what I've seen of his Search for Tomorrow in 1982. The serious tone is always appreciated, but Ellis is one of the writers who struggles in the 1980s writing the more action & adventure plots that shows like General Hospital had been come to be known for. The whole Jim / Carrie / Dan / Brad foreign espionage stuff is not for me. I don't think that's something that I would ever enjoy even over extended episodes. It's reminiscent of the jungle story with Brian, Warren, and Suzi on Search for Tomorrow I think Ava's quest to determine the truth about her husband is probably one of the show's most unique plots in the 1980s. Ava the schemer being married to a man masquerading as Clay Alden is very intriguing. I thought the Cabot / Ava scene was very poignant, as well as pointed, given Ava's history with the Alden family and references to Gwyn and Clay's marriage. I think the back and forth between Ava and "Clay" is wonderful. I also appreciate how integrated "Clay" is into the Amourelle / AE story structure. Ron Nummi should have been Curtis Alden. It would have made his scheme with Lily a bit more noteable given their history. I don't know how Lilly was chosen as the Amourelle model given her history, but I do think the set up of this secret affair story works. The problem, much like the Clay story, is that it is all hopelessly generic to me at times. I feel like Lily is just some woman from Jack's past without all the baggage surrounding the murder trial, the incest, the rivalry with Curtis, etc. I do appreciate how Ann seems to be manipulating things behind the scenes to keep the truth from coming out. It's also to see what that brief period of Loving where Trisha is sidelined because Steve has died and Jeff Hartman is on the scene looks like.

In letting this stew a little bit more, I think bring Robert Guza and Julie Carrouthers on was a smart move no matter the status of their previous work. While Atlanta has a prominent film/TV production infrastructure, I think daytime serial is a different beast. As a fan of the obscure The Catlins, I know that P&G sent some of their New York people, Heather Hill and Joe Rotherberger, to help with the set up. Now I know things have certainly progressed in Atlanta since then, but reading the horror stories in the Atlanta paper about how The Catlins begun, I think there needed to be established talent attached. Having a couple seasoned veterans in daytime production to train local talent was going to be a necessity. Finding people willing to relocate to Atlanta do so, or commute, is another. Val Jean's working relationship with Guza makes sense, and possibly wanting to help a friend out who is still grieving the loss of his wife. Carrouthers has handled the transition of talent from one place to another so I think that allows her a coordinating history that might be beneficial for the launch. Structurally, this all seems very sound. The matriarch being a former singer matriarch and a politican patriarch sets the story in a world where personal matters are elevated into the public sphere. Too often soaps try to make stories scandalous without really having the framework inplace for why that would make sense. Additionally, setting the show in Maryland/D.C. leans into that political arena in a way that opens a political space for story, while not requiring it to be the entire scope. I'm wildly speculating, but I imagine these four are what Val Jean is considering her core crew. I can't remember who suggested that Obba Babbatunde as the former senator patriarch. That's something I hadn't considered as I was thinking more of a Capitol angle where he wouldn't be introduced at first to save money or that he would be dead at the start. This casting suggestion makes sense. I imagine you'd cast this group first because you want the flexibility financially to get who you want and play with the figures of some of the lower tier players. Additionally, I am pleased to see that there seems to be strong development of that 40+ tier. The set up for this seems to be the type of material I have hoped for in the last few years (decades?): a more traditional soap opera with strong sense of modernity. The Sara / Jessica dynamic echoes Meg and Van from Love of Life and other complicated sister relationships that have played out over countless soaps since the birth of soap opera. Jessica's description reminds me of the way people have described Valerie Ames on The Secret Storm, but I am sure there are better more recent examples. A character with warmth and integrity facing the challenges of the world. While Betty is described as the head of the family, it would seem Jessica is going to be the voice of reason. A possible Ruth Martin to Betty's Phoebe Tyler. There is no mention of Jessica having a partner or children, so I will be curious to see if there are any or if Auntie Jessica's relationship with Sara and Joseph's children is more all encompassing leading to tension between Sara and Jessica. The Joseph / Sara dynamic is interesting. Warring exes are probably my favorite soap archetype. I'll be curious to see if we enter during the destruction of the relationship when Joseph is carrying on his affair with another woman (presumably, but maybe I shouldn't) while Sara is going about her life as wife and mother or if we are entering after the war. Based on the description of Joseph, I feel it's pretty clear he is set to enter the political arena so it would be interesting to see how Joseph navigates those relationships with people who are more than likely going to have ties to his former in-laws. Initially, I thought maybe Sara would return to fashion and take over an agency, but now I can't help but wonder if she'll end up in politics herself going against her ex. Or why not both. I think the suggestions of story scope here (political, music, fashion, medical, law) are all very smart moves and gives more of the feeling what I wanted Patrick Mulcahey's General Hospital to become. I am quite happy that Michele Val Jean was recognized for her talent and look forward to what else might come out about this. Maybe there will be some news after tomorrow´s Santa Barbara reunion. If Mulcahey is on board, I imagine that it might slip at the event.

The source would appear to be the casting sides that are probably online somewhere. I imagine that's how most of the information will be revealled this stage of the game.

While it's possible more than person was in the role, Ken Bryant was Maurice Ottinger in late 1964 https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-knoxville-news-sentinel-atwt-ken-br/152176881/

No problems. Frankie's last episode was February 26, 1991, along with that crew of characters (Charlene, Carla, Colton). His start date is May, 1990. I don't think the credits were available but when Frankie first appears, his body is only seen taking Ned Ashton's wallet which is why he was arrested. When he was arrested, Fontaine appeared completely. So not sure if there was someone else playing his body first.

Originally the plan was for a Mike / Rita Mae / Curtis triangle with Rita Mae disillusioned with her marriage due to Billy's impotence. The triangle would have solidified Mike/Curtis rivalry built up over Rita Mae, Curtis' interest in Stacey, and eventually the assumption on Mike's part that Curtis was connected to the drug trade that was going on at Alden University that had led to Patrick Donovan's death. The problem becomes once you pull away one of those threads (I imagine the first to go was Billy's impotence) they slowly lost the plot. I would have dumped Rita Mae and Billy when the impotence plot was nixed. Jim was described as a talk-to for Merrill in the bible; a moral conscious for the woman breaking up a married politician's marriage even though she didn't really want Roger for herself. A lot of characters were not very fleshed out in terms of character, story, or both. For years, one of my bigger complaints is that everyone is married at the beginning. Out of of twenty contract characters, eight were unmarried, unless we count Jim as married to God.

Well said! I do think some of that dynamic is the result of the smaller cast size of a half-hour show as well as the typically limited storytelling scope. Though clearly this didn't work for all half hour shows such as "Ryan's Hope." Shows use to be better about resting legacy characters so they could revive them later. Janet was one of those characters who was gone for some of the 1960s only to return in the 1970s. It seems like SFT in the 1970s chose too often to kill off the characters for the ratings bump. For instance, I think it would have been more practical to have Jennifer shoot at Eunice, but have John save her taking the bullet and dying instead. Eunice could be sent out of town to mourn possibly leaving Suzi in the care of Jo, which would annoy her flavor of the moment who didn't want children and had a secret reason from his backstory for it. When Eunice returned to reclaim her daughter, Suzi could want to stay with Jo and Eunice and Jo's love interest could be in cahoots to help Eunice get the child back. Let Eunice revert back to a villainess to get more mileage out of the character. And, if in the custody battle, Eunice was required to see a psychiatrist to deal with her grief, then she is working with Dr. Wade Collins and you could propel a situation where Eunice and Wade are drawn to one another paralleling the Jennifer / John situation allowing Eunice to recognize her behavior while allowing some trouble to brew between Wade and Janet over Eunice's closeness to Wade leaving Janet to confide in Jo, who gently confronts Eunice, who of course explodes over the situation. You could even have childless Eunice reach out to Chuck Gardner, her cousin's son by Janet, and have Chuck reconnect with Janet on sly so Wade suspects Chuck is Janet's younger lover.

I think Ted Adamson bought into or took over the Collins Corporation, which was the company belonging to Janet's late husband, Dr. Wade Collins, through his affluent family. I believe Stephanie Wyatt as the widow of Wade's brother Clay Collins may have also had a percentage. Or maybe Stephanie sold her part to Ted? Given that Natalie Schaefer played the mother, Helen Collins, I always assumed the Collins clan was suppose to be old money.

I didn't understand what he meant at the time, but I think that was really the start of the changing in the daytime landscape in terms of how people were looking at the shows from a production standpoint. When Brian Frons stated that "Port Charles" was being cancelled because it was not cost effective rather than there weren't enough viewers, we had entered a point where the viewers didn't matter. What we go in the slimmed down 2008-2011 era (which I really enjoyed) seemed to be what Corday was striving for in 2003 , but wildly missed. Hiring everyone back wasn't the original plan though, was it? And those that came back I imagine had a smallerguarantee than they left with, but I don't know that for sure. I would never argue Corday's management is questionable, but I don't think he was making up the issues with the budget. What do you think was the actual reason then for firing Paula Cwikly and Peter Brash and hiring Higley?