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Yeah the past few weeks have really started to remind me of how JG wrote Days around their 50th anniversary and the aftermath, and here we are again with a show that just turned 50 with a current bleak outlook just like Days. This isn’t going to end well at all. Several years ago I remember wishing Devon and Hilary moved into the mansion instead of Billy and Hilary hanging a giant portrait of herself next to Katherine to Jill and Esther’s dismay 🤣 But seriously JG seems to be completely clueless about what to do when it comes to Chance. Chance was ripe and prime to have an unexpected affair with Sally (resulting in her pregnancy) or being manipulated by Audra as her ticket into taking control of Chancellor…but instead the show hasn’t given any bones to Chance at all. There was a time years back I use to defend Ordway and liked her but have come to realize folks like @Vee were right along about her capabilities; Ordway’s Abby is completely ineffectual and pointless. Along with Stafford and MCE I wonder why Ordway is still on this show.

Haha no you didn’t, the show didn’t follow up on Friday’s cliffhanger especially what happened between Liam & Steffy. But yes for a Monday show it sucked horribly.

If there is a silver lining to this, at least ZS and AL will be able to bring it big in confrontation scenes. For a while there it seemed the show was writing Summer to Lanier’s strengths but the moment Summer was thrown under the bus it pretty set the character back and ruined the growth. Had the show just kept Summer out of the loop about her mom it would have been wayyy better instead of turning Summer to see a vengeful Summer out for blood and then out for Phyllis’ blood after learning the truth. Instead we get Summer turning into a blubbering mess. But that is the main problem with Griffith’s plot driven stories is they are so poorly thought out. The last time Griffith wrote a show during its 50th year was Days, and this is simply bound to go down in flames like his Days run did.

As always, thank you @DRW50!!! LMAO Taco’s awful “Puttin' On the Ritz” sounds completely out of place on ATWT.

Haha knowing Ron C. we’d discover the person wearing the Hope mask turns out to be either Dayzee or Gabriela Moreno. Meanwhile the Bridge reunion is threatened by a newly returned Dave Reed who is working in secret with Morgan DeWitt to get Ridge back. 😂😂🙈🙈

Thudley hiring Ron Carlivati as a Co-HW would be the biggest train wreck in daytime history. 😂😂😂

It’s been a couple of years since B&B told a WTD story, so it’s problem time for Thudley to make up for lost time by giving us a 2 for 1 by having both Hope and Steffy get pregnant at the time and unsure who the father is. 😂

That Liam & Steffy kiss was gross and disgusting 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮 That key hole freeze frame of Bridge was over the top camp.

It’s been annoying that for at least the last 15 years of B&B fashion shows or so that the “show stopper” is always a character that is not a model lol…remember Donna on the surf board or Quinn’s jewelry or whatever? Lol so Hope modeling her own designs seems so cheap 🤣🤣 Embarassing yes, stupid yes about these Rome shoots instead of an actual runway show, but still somehow not as bad as that hot mess of a fashion show centered around the pointless Zoe/Xander/Emma a few years back.

It’s always been interesting to me that when it comes to daytime spin-offs just failed out right miserably. Somerset had modest success but petered out, Texas flopped out of the gate, The City was DOA, and Port Charles was just there filling a time slot with low ratings and many affiliates airing overnight. Seems to me “sister soaps” i.e. Y&R & B&B or AMC & OLTL were more compatible. AW tried this with Lovers & Friends/For Richer For Poorer but the timeslots were bad choices, compounded by bad writing.

Knowing Thudley this will be one or two scenes and the two never interact again on screen, kind of like Thomas and Sasha years ago or more recently Thomas & Paris lol.

Dead cat, Faith with a bomb strapped to her, Connor inheriting his mother’s depression and now a dead baby….someone want to go check in on Josh Griffith to make sure he’s okay before someone gets raped in the Abbott living room?

Wow, Berlanti’s TV empire is pretty much gone except for these two shows.

🤣 Don’t make me laugh. I figured it’s only a matter of time before Sajak ends up in the loony bin with his predecessor Chuck Woolery. As far “beloved” hosts go I mean I haven’t cared for Sajak in years and even then he could be crass/tasteless and well sexist. And of course Bob Barker was a very nasty individual who would’ve been deservedly unceremoniously dumped had #metoo happened during his era.

Hope’s face lol was the highlight for me:

Lol I haven’t watched since Bo & Hope were on has the show disintegrated even further? Major yikes!

Indeed. At the time so called “industry experts” were surprised Fox made such a move at the start of the season but it’s pretty obvious Fox was the shark that saw blood in the water. The momentum didn’t last though as Tisch’s CBS made some strange oddball moves. More on that later.

Now now don’t be too harsh as that scene did lead to Barbara becoming the official spokesperson for Tyson’s Chicken that year 🤣🤣🤣 While I appreciate the show trying to give Emma romances, I never much paid attention to them as while I liked Emma as good “talk to” supporting motherly & aunty character, she just lacked the fiery spark other working class matriarchs like AW’s Ada, GL’s Bea, and Y&R’s Liz and Mary had. Emma was too mousy.

Fox knew exactly what they were doing by counter programming The Simpsons against Cosby. NBC made a mistake by keeping The Golden Girls separate from spinoffs Empty Nest & Nurses instead of at least building a block for for the three shows while multiple shows failed between that. Not to mention Marc Cherry era of the Golden Girls completely changed the tone of the show.

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Thanks for sharing @DRW50! I was wondering about the rest of Iva’s biological family, it seems they only popped up for this story before going back into the woodwork. I find Elizabeth/Liz to be interesting I wonder why the show didn’t do more with her. Lenore and the kids if I recall right would still occasionally appear through 1990 before disappearing until their brief 1995 reappearance. I too was surprised about how well Paul handled the homophobia and defending Andy as well. It’s a realistic and well written scene as brief as it was. As for Earl Mitchell, eh this whole thing just ends on a whimper in comparison to the rest of the Stenbeck story and I recall one poster years ago commenting Earl was “just another dead husband” for Lisa to deal with.

The biggest major element missing in this story is missing a return from Grace and focusing on Faith instead of Mariah…I imagine if Cassie was still alive today and Cameron had returned, she’d want some type of vengeance.

I still adore Alison Lanier, but the whiplash 180 degree turn for Summer is absolutely jarring (and needless/pointless) to see. Complete character destruction and regression in a month’s time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Josh Griffith sabotaged his own work out of spite because Summer was getting positive attention compared to his own lackluster pets on the show.

Yes it was, although Larry did come back for Cassie’s death and stayed for a little bit by helping Sharon grieve as well as give her a motorcycle ride.

Haha no doubt Moses was sexy and he was the good boy contrast to bad boy Lance. Actually one of my favorite Season 2 stories was when Cole was living with Joanna Cassidy’s character I wish the show had been willing to flesh out that story more. The whole Melissa/Cole/Robin story that ran for 2 seasons was pretty disgusting and I can see why Moses quit because of it even though he was clearly willing to come back if the show could at least give Cole an interesting story. Instead we got Dan Fixx. I actually was going to mention that as at the time Moses seemed so much older that Courtney Thorne Smith at the time lol. Keith Gray was really MP’s first dark and memorable villain especially at a time the show was transitioning into a full blown soap with Amanda’s arrival and Michael divorcing Jane to be with Kimberly. It was a sign of the times though. My teen self was shocked by that final season of Dallas with the Hagman/Eden reunion be a nasty affair while innocent 80’s geek Anthony Michael Hall had a turn as the nasty bully villain in Edward Scissorhands.