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SOD awards were always voted in by fans anyways to begin with lol besides the editor’s awards which allowed soaps like AW and Loving to win stuff as well lol but I was thinking of the 1997/1998 controversy of SOD discovered a conspiracy of someone at ABC purchasing and stuffing thousands of ballots 🤣 Unlike the Daytime Emmys which rotated between the Big Three until 2004, the SOD awards always aired on NBC. Probably a saving grace for NBC Daytime lol.

Sad for sure, a definitive sign of the times. I was a subscriber from 1995-2004 and then…. LOL even 20 years ago the bottom fell out and the prices skyrocketed lol, which is when I cancelled my subscription. And for whatever reason, SOD had a fantastic early online presence there from 1996-2000ish, then disappeared for like two years LMAO and then their online presence after that was always terrible…”read more in the latest issue!” Major yikes! SOD’s content stopped being fun. SOD awards were deliberately rigged and then stopped being held. Thumbs up/down columns, top ten lists, the joke lists, and in depth articles and analysis on shows current and historical storylines became non existent. Fan mail became censored. Softball Interviews became softer than Downy sheets. Carolyn Hinsey became very offensive and very obnoxious. Every other weekly cover became “The Plan to save DAYS!” VCR/DVR alerts became snooze alerts. And ratings boxes were increasingly less exciting and became obscured. At least SOD has never gone the SPW route and tried to cover American Idol and America’s Got Talent for “soapy” content but I digress. I’ve gotten my soap News off the web from SON and other sites for years now rather than SOD.

Charlie and Esther….? I knew Esther’s crossover was just going to be silly but not this silly. Esther deserves better than Gomer Pyle lol.

Not really considering AH is 50 (and HT is 48) while J. Eddie Peck is 65 in real life lol (Cole was obviously supposed to be a lot younger than Peck’s real life age). But it would also explain why she’s interested in Victoria as well. Even if the show said Claire Grace is in her mid-20’s at least HE looks it, where as Marcy Rylan looked mid-30’s trying to play a 21 year old Naked Heiress Abby 🙃 I’m actually surprised Peck or Cole as a character has never been brought back to Y&R, especially since after Peck left Y&R he later paired up with AH’s character on AMC. I was still thinking there is a connection there via Casey maybe?

Pretty much in all echoes of B&B fandom there is total resentment of Liam atm. It’s pure comedy. Just literally two minutes after Ridge agrees with Finn it’s a bad idea to tell Steffy about Deacon & Sheila, yet Liam feels he can protect Steffy from Sheila while raising Hayes…? Is anyone actually happy in B&B’s world verse with this setup?

I went back and listened again as I didn’t hear the trip part the first time. I guess the not good is an ambiguous blanket answer for both questions for the teaser?

Next week’s Y&R promo has Christine saying Paul’s not doing good: https://x.com/yogachampagne/status/1715100833929371958?s=20

Speaking of the lame one, the end of Friday’s show he came off as a total psychotic creep obsessed with Steffy as he made that phone call to her.

There’s been anecdotes of Grillo having bad on-set behavior over the years going back to his Prison Break days, including an altercation of sort between him and Ryan Reynolds a while back. Grillo in interviews tried to come off as some macho tough guy…I wonder if that’s why him and Moniz eventually divorced. Not to mention Grillo committed securities fraud before his acting career, yikes. I don’t know why they didn’t recast Hart, but I suppose with Grillo being the 5th actor to play Hart in such a short time period I guess the show was done with the character. Minus the never ending angel story, Hart’s murder was a chilling conclusion to the Dinah/Hart/Cassie triangle. I suppose at worst we would have seen Hart #6 rescue Cassie from San Cristobel over and over again.

Hopefully that does happen. Bill and Liam really don’t have a place on the show anymore and yes, Kelly calls Finn “daddy”.

Not surprised about Darin Brooks either, he’s had one foot out of the door for a couple years now working on other projects, although it seemed he had appeared a lot more in 2023 than he did in either 2021 and 2022. Earlier this year Wyatt mentioned he was single, I guess he broke up with Felony Flo who’s been gone for like 3 years now LMAO. I wonder what Wyatt’s offscreen is exit will be? He went to live with Quinn? I also appreciated the Li vs Sheila scenes in Thursday’s episode, we need more of this.

And Talia had been on the show for less than six months no? I really can’t imagine the special kind of backstage hell on earth that went on during Alan Alarr’s final months.

Haha when do you think Nikki crossed over to the point of messy matriarch/grande dame category? I was actually thinking of this the other day and was thinking Nikki was last one to carry on the tradition of messy matriarch in the same vein of Jennifer, Katherine, Vanessa, Mary, Alison, Joanna, Lillie Belle, and Dina.

Today’s show again reminds me of how isolated (and well, pointless lol) the Newmans have become from the rest of the show. Other than Nate and Audra as interlopers, there’s literally nothing going on here with Victor’s scheme being essentially stillborn/DOA from the get go.

Li hasn’t been an endearing character herself…remember this the same woman who let everyone think Finn was dead, berated, bullied, and blamed Steffy, and also encouraged her son to commit manslaughter. I’d like Li for being a frosty nasty mother in the Bell tradition of something like an Alison Bancroft or a Lilli Belle Barber, just make it make sense lol.

Eric talking about that stupid stapler again 🤣😂 I fully expect another twist about Li, Poppy, and Luna. That story today sounded too tame lol.

The Li/Luna scenes actually hold my interest I’m curious what the backstory is going to be about why Li hates her sister and niece so much, especially it seems that Li barely knows anything about Luna. At least Li is a nice throwback to the frosty, controlling yet messy mother type that use to dominate both the Bell shows.

No kidding. GL finally went on a creative upswing in the fall of ‘87. Looking at that last batch of ratings I’m surprised to see how close both Loving and SB came so close to overtaking AW….wow. It’s interesting SoapNet chose to start their AW reruns from that roughly that same summer time period.

Her intro fell flat but her subsequent scenes with Nikki only have worked interestingly. Maybe it would have worked more interestingly for Nikki to call up Claire to come to GC and let everyone try to guess who Claire was Nikki’s new pet project. So true. I think the Newman drama would have been better if Nate, Audra, and Tucker had managed to wrestle complete control over what once was a family company, kind of exactly with what Victor had done with Jabot way back in the day with Adam and Victoria agreeing to work together to one day take back control when the opportunity arose.

Newman family drama is zzzzz IMO but I’m glad to see EB is looking well onscreen again. At least we finally have a storyline addressing Victor’s age and health. Victoria smashing that picture at the end though. Nikki and Claire are clearly going to be connected somehow IMO. I’m thinking she’s going to be some lost daughter of Casey’s.

Y&R: I would say on Y&R bringing back Diane in 1996 and Brad in 1998, despite the slow starts, definitely got the ball rolling again for the many of show’s biggest storylines from 1997-2004ish. Not a traditional return per se but ED’s return to the role of Ashley completely rejuvenated the character in 1999. When ED first left the role in ‘88, Ashley was Y&R’s #2 leading lady after Nikki. When BE left the role in ‘95, Ashley was like #5 behind Nikki, Victoria, Nina, and Dru. When SS left the role, Ashley was basically at the bottom lol, far behind eve mid to lower tier ladies like Megan, Tricia, Grace, heck even Callie at that point. ED successfully turned Ashley back into a top tier character again despite being in storyline hell at the beginning. ATWT: Carly’s 1997 return essentially started a storyline that would last til the end and her return came at a time when the show was really bad; same goes for better for worse for Holden’s return earlier that same year. Days: Don’t think I saw anyone mention it yet, but Nicole’s return in 2008 completed turned around and gave new life to a dead end character that I didn’t think we’d ever see again when JER had let Nicole wither out with a blink if you miss it line about Nicole leaving town in early 2006. GL: Probably not as popular lol but I actually liked Rick’s return and also the revelation about Rick and Annie’s past. Not to mention I was a big fan of Rick and Abby I’m sorry the show just wasn’t able to sustain it long-term or keep them as the tent pole couple they should have been.

Which is unfortunate as that didn’t happen as she is still the current basis of Devon and Nate’s absolute hatred of each other. It would have been interesting to see Elena plot against both Victoria and Abby. I mean I don’t have much sympathy for Elena and was at one time highly anticipating Imani just stealing Nate away from her and her being left alone to commiserate. It would be a shame to just let her fade away considering all the drama in the past centered around her with at least getting a final resolution.

Lol Marie Osmond….and an Esther crossover? I mean I adore Linder but this sounds a bit silly? Osmond’s character sounds like it should have been Macy instead. I guess that cryptic interview Bobbie Eakes gave a few months saying Macy was alive as she never died on screen was just much ado about nothing?

Tuesday’s episode felt more like a Friday episode lol. Although why in the world was Li just randomly allowed to roam the Forrester Creations building like that? Charlie is doing a really shitty job as Forrester’s security officer!

Totally agree. I actually wish the show had been able to bring back SW as Diane years ago instead of having to endure Jack with characters like Genevieve, Kelly etc. Even if Maura was totally miscast in the role, killing off the character was such a bad mistake. Diane’s resurrection rejuvenated the Abbot family and I hope Jack and Diane will stay happily married and deal with the family drama instead.