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I think it was? IIRC, Sebastian lured her into some underground cell in Santo Domingo. Of course, what I REALLY remember was the whole storyline devolving into an excuse for more airtime for Nancy St. Alban and Jordi Vilasuso, lol.

I'm honestly stunned to hear people liked Doug Hutchison/Sebastian. And I'm sorry the storyline didn't play out the way David Kreizman had anticipated, but how do you even go forward with a story like that if you don't know whether or not Peter Simon will return? At the very least, try and get Bob Gentry or Mart Hulswit to return!

How did Paul die the second time? And was his and Van's second marriage a happy one? Or, as I suspect, did the writers turn Paul into an entirely different character in order to make viewers root for Van to return to Bruce?

IMO, Tim Gunn WAS the show. He was self-effacing, warm and approachable; someone who could always encourage the best out of contestants; and the one personality who lent the show its' aura of knowledgeability, as well as its' most memorable catchphrase ("Make it work!").

Thank you, @DRW50, for the tag!

It's incredible to me how a soap that was so popular could produce so many promos and ads that were so cheesy.

I'll also wager that fans at that time felt the story was too similar to the Lee Gantry tale.

Either way, it came from Dollar Tree.

Not necessarily. You could argue that, in the years away from Springfield (and from Alan), Elizabeth regained her self-confidence and self-respect, becoming a much-sought-after celebrity photographer like Annie Leibovitz and Herb Ritts.

Roller-skating hookers. Need I say more?

I guess ABC was going after the "Jewel in the Crown" demographic, lol.

Lord, is this show ever toxic, lol.

Yep, I think that is Maree Cheatham.

And I agree with all three of you!

IDK about anyone else, but I miss the "CBS Sunday Movie." Even the trashier, more exploitative movies - and let's face it, that was about 95% of 'em - were fun to watch.

Only in the mid-'90's could you have any woman losing her [!@#$%^&*] over Fabio without it seeming ridiculous (and even back then, I wondered what all the fuss was about, lol).

I agree. I mean, if I had been in her shoes, and ABCD had come to me and said, "Please give us another show, we'll give you X amount of dollars and even let you own it," of course I'm going to say "Sure." Frankly, ABCD would've been better off cancelling RH in 1983 (not that that would've guaranteed a successful run for LOVING). RH was already on life support by then; it just took ABCD another six years for them to pull the plug.

I think RH (and EON) would have been affected no matter where ABCD would've put LOVING; and I think that's because ABCD really didn't have the room for another soap, but wanted another Agnes Nixon show so desperately.

Beverlee McKinsey was an Okie, like I am an Okie. Okies say what they mean and mean what they say.

I see your point, @Soaplovers. Angela Lansbury had complained for years about being overworked. Moving to ABC and becoming part of their "mystery movie wheel" series would've allowed her more time off, while simultaneously sparing us from the "bookend episodes," lol.

I agree. It just shows to go you how much the networks underestimate the viewers' intelligence. As if we'd watch two, instantly forgettable shows, simply because they "reunited" Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore on CBS. If anything, viewers wanted Dick and Mary back together on the SAME show, not wasting their time (and ours) on two separate shows everyone knew were god-awful and going nowhere fast.

Don't worry, you weren't, lol. I, too, watched "New York News," but only for MTM. The rest of the show was AWFUL. (MTM was reportedly looking to leave the show, too, when CBS announced it had been cancelled. So, even our Mary knew a dog when she smelled one, lol). Yeah, as far as sitcoms went, "Newhart" was the only success MTM enjoyed in the '80s; and as wonderful as that cast was, it still paled in comparison to MTM's successes in the '70's. On the other hand, Allan Burns' shows - "The Duck Factory," "Eisenhower & Lutz" and "FM" - all were what I'd call "noble failures": pretty good shows that had potential, but were being produced by a company and for networks that weren't all that hot about 'em. I think even Burns himself admitted years later that he had stayed at MTM longer than he should've. If he had moved on when James L. Brooks and others had, he might've had a more successful career in television. I think anything would've been worth a try over "Life with Lucy," lol. But seriously. You're not entirely wrong in your opinion, @Paul Raven. Look at Andy Griffith and Dick Van Dyke: the only successes they had in TV after their respective sitcoms had ended was in mystery shows that were geared toward an older demographic. Frankly, I don't know why anyone has never approached Carol Burnett with the idea of portraying an older, amateur sleuth (with a yen for goofy disguises?) unless playing the same character every week just doesn't appeal to her.

I agree. As @kalbir and others have said, CBS was in third place and struggling. MSW and "60 Minutes" were the only two shows keeping them afloat. Which definitely explains why CBS and Universal even allowed Angela Lansbury to reduce her workload to the point that they had the "bookend episodes" during the sixth and seventh seasons.

No, that's not Rosetta LeNoire.

Y'all laugh, but I'd kill to see Dinah Manoff and Diana Canova back on television, lol.