Gray Bunny

I can't help but still like Erika. Yes, she kept silent last week when it was obvious everyone was just waiting for her to speak and 'fess up. But I kinda get her reasoning for not wanting to get into it at that moment. She has sense that the others (coaxed by producers, no doubt) lack. Such as last night when the ladies, again, talked about Kim, and Erika wanted to shut it down nicely by pointing out that it's Kyle's sister. The discussion about Kim was getting shallow, but I liked how Kathryn brought it back down to earth by opening up about her father's suicide. Which brings me to another point... I swear, it's like there's a cue card boy off to the side telling the ladies which topics they need to discuss. Last night, the soap stars, Lips and Eileen, were up to the challenge. It's old, it's tired. It's making Lips look like a fool who can't let Dutch drama queens sleeping dogs lie. It looks like next week, we're back to making Vanderpump the villain who likes to throw the brick and hide the hand. Meanwhile, I like how Beverly Hills is the only franchise that constantly brings back all of their original cast. Adrienne popped in again last night. Camille is always at parties. Boozehound Taylor wobbled around a few episodes back, and sloppy Kim will be rambling again at some point in the future. Yolanda can go. Bye.

More like a nightmare. Only if Kim Kardashian is Sanders' Vice President. Or would *that* finally be going too far for all the dumbasses well-informed voters of America? Regardless of his political position, with Christie, even with all the hoopla and buzz around him a few years back, my concern would be a man of his size is one more Big Mac away from a heart attack.

Thomas Calabro looked good on the 2009 reboot. I always wondered why he opted not to do the reunion interview & covershoot for Entertainment Weekly back in 2012.

Another well-informed voter...

I totally understand that, but they managed to keep a lot of 90210's around for years. I think they should have worked harder to keep Jake and Alison or at least let Alison and Billy go together. Jo, Jake, Alison, Jane, Kimberly, I missing anyone? Matt? That's a lot of people to loose and it seemed like they had no real game plan going into six and I realize Heather Locklear's pregnancy messed things up, but they should have tried harder to get some of the originals besides Jane back in the end. I mean it's like two different shows after season 4 and especially after season 5. I believe Doug Savant wanted to stay but they wouldnt give him a romance. They had made Katie Wright who played his neice a regular but Savant didnt just wanna play Dad & left three shows into season 6. Then they killed him off in S7. Im not even sure if they even tried to get him back or it was story dictated Actually, Doug Savant (and Katie Wright) originally signed to do 13 episodes of season six - however, Heather Locklear's pregnancy meant they had to start filming early and Doug was doing Godzilla at the time, so he was abruptly written out in the season premiere and took Katie Wright with him. I believe if Doug had stayed for those 13 episodes, then maybe they would've given Katie Wright a full season contract. I think her character was supposed to be 17, so there was time to turn her 18 and make her live in the building - sort of makes sense as Jennifer was portrayed as being maybe 21-22 at the oldest, so I guess a "young-adult" scene might've been on their minds briefly. For the best, then. Don't know why they thought Katie Wright was special. She was on the short-lived Malibu Shores (with unknowns who eventually became known, like Keri Russell, Susan Ward, Charisma Carpenter, etc.), just as dopey and uninteresting as she was on MP.

Everyone looks good, but Christ, there's waaaaaaaaaaay too much Kimmy Gibbler overkill, and she comes off way too annoying. Not even goofy funny, just string-bean-Barney-Fife moron. I'll have to take another look at the twin boys; I forgot they brought back the originals for them.

DEFINITELY. His endgame being Michael's sister? Meh.... They definitely should've followed up on that , when Amanda revealed that Allison had contacted her in Atlanta, and had fallen off the wagon again.

I like your assessments @carolineg Agreed on Billy, Jo, Brooke, Matt, Michael, etc..... and count me in as another big Alison Parker fan! She had some low points there (hooking up with Steve McMillan; her being a tyrant season 3 at D&D), but she definitely was the heart of the show, as was well established in season one. I would say for the most part, Jane was only interesting when fighting with Sydney. Even her romantic partnerings occur mostly offscreen, whereas you would actually SEE what was happening in Alison or Amanda's relationships. However, she is a great ensemble character and is a breath of fresh air in Season Seven after the clusterfunk of Season Six. I also agree that in re-watching the series, Peter Burns has a lot of blah moments. He's a huge buzzkill for a lot of season 5 when he's all pissy-pants about not being able to practice. He takes it out on Amanda and later becomes some crazed zombie, treating Taylor like some sort of sex robot reincarnation of his dead wife, Beth. Jake and Allison are great characters separately, but together in their Shooters cocoon, totally petered out into oblivion. The couplings you would expect to be endgame, based off their Seasons 1-3 heyday, don't work out due to actors leaving at different times. By all means, Billy & Allison and Jake & Jo should've gone off into their respective sunsets together. And indeed, Kimberly, fantastic character as she was, outlived her usefulness post-explosion. Her becoming a psychiatrist was ridiculous enough, but then the split personality storyline was the point of no return, and her long, drawn out "dying" storyline in Season Five was horrible. It gave us Megan at least, but the storyline itself was terrible. Always a joy rehashing the goings on at 4616 Melrose!

That totally saved her. I loved when she turned into a boozehound, drowning her sorrows at New Years (I think a drunken Nicole picked a fight with Celeste that year!) and all around the old Kiriakis mansion. And they missed an opportunity, pairing her with Austin Peck's Austin around the 2000-2002 era.

Glug, glug, glug down the hatch

They should've been creative and wrote 27, in reference to the $27 average contribution

I'm in agreement. Virtually everyone in the cast grew unlikable by the 5th season. I still have a soft spot for Teresa even though she and the hubby are shady as hell. But hypocritical Jacqueline, fame-hungry Melissa, self-righteous Caroline, and thirsty unmemorable Kathy all lost their luster, if they ever had any. And the three newbies last season were all one-hit wonders that are better left forgotten & never mentioned again. ITA to it all. I loved seasons 1 & 2, but sadly, there was nowhere else to go with the Danielle dynamic, and as you said, the thirsty Melissa, Kathy, and their extended family of goofballs --- plus, Bravo's insistence of keeping the dynamic for THREE long seasons --- killed the momentum.

He doesn't look so bad for a guy his age. Well done, Lu! She looks happy.

The Countess will lose her official title if she remarries! P.S. Is NYC currently filming? Meanwhile, when is Jacqueline's hypocritical ass going to pay for her misdeeds? Aren't she and hubby shady-shady?

+1 (about RHOA, don't watch BH any longer). Agreed, I meant to specify that. Haven't watched BH this season. What?? Y'all aren't watching BH? I wouldn't say it's as good as last season, but it's certainly still more enjoyable than the mess that was season 4. Still have to watch last night's eppy.

I love the dynamic NeNe's return has given, because it has caused Cynthia & Kenya's still-getting-to-know-one-another friendship to implode, NeNe's former "besties" Porsha and Phaedra seem unclear where they stand with her, plus it's given Sheree a renewed purpose - the ultimate sh*t-starter. Sheree is always ready to quote one person's comment and tell another, thus starting a new fire. Interesting about her and Bob, too. If they've reconciled and are now friends for the sake of the kids, good for them. That shot of Phaedra sprawled out in that swimsuit was not flattering. But what else is new. Kenya going after Kim's husband and the alleged rumors. Sigh.... She doesn't have the fanbase that NeNe has, so her behavior and acts of desperation will not be dismissed so easily. I think she's still more popular than Brandi Glanville was last season, but she's starting to head that route.

Caught up on Beverly Hills... I don't think Lisa V looks as bad as some of you were saying. The scene with her and newbie Kathryn was very truncated; they merely showed Lisa questioning Kathryn, with no footage of anything Kathryn said or asked in response. How else do you get to know your newest castmember? Wouldn't they start off with the basics? Okay, the question on age could've waited until maybe their second time meeting, but whatevs. I don't know if The Morally Corrupt Faye had more work done, or if Bravo is photoshopping, but Faye's skin looks so much better than it used to. In the flashbacks, it looked like the surface of a leather handbag. Kathryn looked messy because she let herself get all riled up over Faye’s presense, and Faye gave her NOTHING in response except a compliment on her looks. LOL! Well done Faye. You keep being your fabulous, icy calculated self. Kathryn initially acted as if Faye wasn’t a big deal to her, then admits that she’s been thinking of what she would say to Faye for the past twenty years? And she got all goofy ticked off at dinner like a mini Aviva. Overall, this whole set-up at Kyle’s “barbecue” (BTW, I loved Erika’s reaction to the non-barbecue… this woman is quickly becoming one of my all-time faves) was close to New Jersey-Season-Four-Season-Finale territory, where it is so obviously set up by producers and the castmembers just aren’t up to the task of acting natural (sorry Kyle, your acting talents have gone rusty). Rinna comes off as a producer’s puppet. You could at least tell Lisa V was uncomfortable bringing up Mohamed’s children. Kyle pried, pried, pried (another producer puppet). All in all, I found it to be a good episode. I would’ve loved a little footage of Camille and Faye together, or at least reacting, especially after the Dinner Party From Hell flashback.

The first season will forever be among the best soap opera ever, even if it wasn't flashy and people didn't slap each other and throw mud every day. Even without Alexis. 100% agreed. I loved the first season, where they really showed how Krystle was this middle-class outsider stepping into a world she had never known. And having PSM as antagonist Fallon was delicious Shut the front door! That's awesome. I'll have to get my parents to record this. Are they currently finishing up the 9th & final season?

I think everyone looks really good except for NeNe's hair and surprisingly little makeup. It looks like her nose grew back.

Oh, Potomac, Potomac, Potomac... This franchise is so bad it's good. There is virtually nothing likable about 83.33% of them. Katie is pretty, here in Potomac, but so damn obnoxious. And the way she talks, including that little head tilt she does when she says the first part of one sentence, and then shifts to the other side when she finishes her thought... this is the one I want to smack the most in Potomac. Karen is too crusty in Potomac. I'm glad Gizelle made a mention of her mussed hair at the lunch meet-up there in Potomac. Charrisse is just gross (see above photos) and thinks way too highly of herself in Potomac. I'm already tired of the etiquette lessons, but Karen's Aunt Dot was pretty funny. Considering how old I gather she must be, she can be as cantankerous as she wants to be. Ashley may not live in Potomac, but she sure married rich like the other ladies who do reside in Potomac. Typical trophy wife who plans half-assed charity functions to fill her time near Potomac. Robyn of Potomac. Why exactly is she here? Half the time she looks like she's drifting off to sleep in Potomac, the other half she seems uninterested altogether. Still don't have a clue what she's about, but she's black. I have a feeling she'll feel compelled to remind us every so often that she is black. She has that same sleepy-eyed, puppydog look as Kathy's daughter from New Jersey. Speaking of New Jersey, one of Katie's young boys looks like the male Potomac version of Milania! Anyone else notice that?? And then we have Gizelle, who so far looks like will be the only breakout character of the Potomac series. Karen is too crusty and her schtick is already old. I like Gizelle, and she will be the one who helps generate storyline in Potomac. I like her energy, sass, and ability to make this show interesting. Finally, if you ever forget which series you're watching, rest assured that the word "Potomac" will be uttered every other minute. Potomac.

Well, according to a very reliable source who's no longer with us (hint...), Doug Davidson found her laugh to be annoying, for starters.

I saw that. Good for them. They definitely benefited from Atlanta as the lead-in, which by the way, was over 3 million again. Dare we say the return of Miss Linnethia helped spark interest? BTW, Beverly Hills seems to be holding steady so far with a 1.8 million viewer average.

That is so funny; this is exactly what the hubby said while watching. These two are new money who grew up in the ghetto and now put on the biggest show like they're above it all. In fact, he compared them to NeNe's transformation.

LMAO! Great casting! Yes, I definitely picked up on the Evelyn Lozada as I watched, without the horse mouth. Katie Rost, I should like her since we share the same last name (which I *never* see!), but she is extremely obnoxious. And I like black guys and married a black guy, but I don't go on & on about it, the way she does about white guys. Calm down missy.