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This show is a boring mess. But actually, I'm okay with this decision. Not every character who dies needs an on-screen funeral. And Cole was a relatively minor character this time around. I'm not a fan of on-screen funerals on soaps in general. These days, most soaps just use funerals as time-fillers anyway. On-screen funerals should be reserved for very major characters and long, long-term legacy characters. Others might disagree. That's cool.

Gwen married a Frame -- Willis. She was not one of the Frame siblings. Her single name was Gwen Parish. She came from a wealthy family in Manhattan who were acquainted with Mac and Iris when they all lived in NYC. I'm sure you remember that.

LOL. Oh, I forgot to ask about everyone's favorite Jamie. That will be the next episode. And Gwen was an architect, not a lawyer. But I agree, she was cool. I didn't really buy into Ada's romance with Charlie Hobson. But the others all worked for me. Especially Gerald Davis.

I too find it highly offensive. But guess what I do, when I read a post that offends me. . .

Which actor playing Russ Matthews was the best? And why? Which of Ada's four husbands did you prefer? And why? Which of the original Frame siblings was your favorite? (Original meaning Steve's generation of siblings). And why? Who was your favorite of Bay City's many attorneys -- John Randolph, Walter Curtain, Cass Winthrop, Brian Bancroft, Michael Randolph, Mike Bauer, Mitchell Dru, etc. And why?

I'm trying to remember all the wives of Bob Hughes. Lisa Miller, Sandy McGuire, Jennifer Ryan, Miranda Dragoness, and Kim Reynolds. Did I miss anyone?

I agree. When we post opinions about one another, we are off topic. And even my post (right now) is off topic, in my opinion. We should be conversing about Another World here -- not posting about one another. When you read a post that offends you, or a post by someone you don't like, try just ignoring it. That's what I usually do. Obviously, this post is an exception. Ignoring posts that we think are offensive, or posts by someone we don't like is a great way to keep conflict to a minimum, and to keep the focus on our favorite soap opera. Again, arguing between ourselves is off topic.

Well, he flubbed his lines, and totally forgot lines so often, I wouldn't exactly say he stuck to the script. I'm sure it had to be difficult for his acting partners. Have you ever seen Ariana Muenker's interview on The Locher Room? She describes a scene between her and Marlowe, in which he completely forgot nearly all his lines and just looked at her blankly. She had to carry the entire scene, trying to blend his lines with her own, because he had simply stopped responding. And Ariana was just 15 or 16 years old when this occurred. But I also want to say, despite his difficulties, I loved Marlowe as Jim. He did play the role with warmth and seemed like a real father/grandfather. And when he did manage to do a good scene, he was charming. Plus he was actually very good in every film and primetime show I've seen him in. He just was not prepared to keep up with the pace of daytime.

Thank you.

Yes, he softened Liz a bit when Irene Daily assumed the role. Earlier when played by Audra Lindley, Liz was practically a villain. But Dailey's Liz was still pretty tough and unhappy. Later writers softened Dailey's Liz even more -- to the point that, at times, she was little more than comic relief.

Hey everyone, I need some information rather quickly to pass on to an author. Beverly Penberthy's son represented his mother at the AW Reunion last year. Does anyone know the son's name? The author is trying to contact him. Thank you!!

Thank you for that information. Of course ALL of that is strictly from Mr Lemay's point of view. So that must be taken into account.

Along with Ford and Wyndham, he also praised Susan Sullivan for her ability to tweak his dialogue and make it her own. So, if an actor he loved changed his dialogue, that was okay. Even praise worthy, at times. But when Virginia Dwyer (whom he openly disliked) did it, Lemay was aghast and deeply offended. Can you imagine the challenge Dwyer faced doing scene after scene with Hugh Marlowe, who stammered and fumbled his way through nearly every page of dialogue?? Of course she changed the dialogue. She was probably saying half of Marlowe's lines, because he had forgotten them. And I don't think Dwyer hated Lemay. She was frustrated with him, and just didn't understand what the Hell he was trying to do to Mary. And the answer to that (we found out later) was he wanted Mary to behave like Aunt Liz. A meddling unfulfilled sexless busy-body. I really don't think I would have enjoyed seeing Mary turn into that. On the other hand, I didn't want to see Mary killed off either.

Well, if that was true -- where was the director? Taking a nap in the control room?? A good director would have nipped that in the bud. Unless the performance was good and the director liked it. Imagine that.

The book is a wonderful look back at the Golden Age of Another World. And yes, Lemay is very opinionated and more than a little egotistical. But I would not go so far as to suggest he lied in the book. But the book is a memoire -- one man's thoughts, opinions, and experiences of a particular period in his life. Had the opinions of others been included, we might be reading a very different book. But aren't all memoirs like this?

I've never really understood Lemay's statements about this in the book. Apparently he felt Courtney over-played her scenes during these episodes. But if she was so badly over-playing the emotional breakdown, where the hell was the director? And why didn't the director receive any of Lemay's wrath? I was watching every day during this period, and the only thing I found over-done about Alice's breakdown was Courtney's physical appearance, which was a bit shocking. But Alice's appearance would not have been Courtney's decision. Wouldn't that have been a collaboration between the director and the hair/make-up department. So again, no idea why Lemay gave Courtney all the blame...

Well, the writing for Steve's return was bad. VERY bad. But the casting could have worked with decent writing that respected the history of Alice/Steve/Rachel, rather than just paying lip-service to it. The triangle was OVER, and had been over before Reinholt and Courtney were fired in 1975. Once Rachel married Mac, there was no chance she would have ever looked back toward Steve in any serious way. Had Harding Lemay written Steve's return (even though he likely would have refused, because he HATED return from the dead plots), he would have written it believably, and would have gotten Steve and Alice back on track to continue their ever-troubled romance. Rachel certainly would have been involved, but mostly through the impact on Jamie. Rachel would never have started chasing Steve again.

Wow, that sounds great. I'll try to tune in and watch it! Thanks for the response.

I don't watch DOOL often, so I need to ask -- is this a real murder trial? With a jury, and audience, a courtroom, and EVERYTHING? Murder trials used to be a staple on every soap opera. But they have fallen out of fashion since the mid-1980s. I'm wondering, what/when was the last murder trial on DOOL? And what/when was the last full murder trial on ANY soap in the US??

For the sake of conversation, let's assume for moment that soap operas are on the upswing, and become at least moderately profitable again. It seems that in 2025, outdoor shooting has become relatively affordable for daytime dramas. So today, the expensive part is not the shooting itself, but finding outdoor locations to use consistently and often enough to be believable and authentic to the audience. Here's a question: would it ever be possible for an American soap opera to have a series of permanent outdoor sets, similar to a few British soaps, such as Eastenders?? I know DOOL tried this for a while with Salem Place Mall, but it lasted only a few years. And Guiding Light shot for a couple of years in Peapack. But to a large degree, GL was just asking for permission to shoot outside people's businesses and homes, and identifying those structures as the boarding-house/Company, the Bauer house, the Spaulding house, etc., etc., etc. (I am aware GL purchased or leased at least one house that could be shot from several angles, and used as the exterior for more than one home) But there is no permanence with that format because at any time, a home owner or business owner could have (and eventually would have) said, "You can't use my home (or business) in your show anymore -- we're done!" So I'm assuming for outdoor sets to be "permanent" they'd need to be on a studio back-lot, or at least on property owned by either the studio or by the production company. So could an Eastenders type of permanent outdoor set(s) ever be affordable or possible for an American daytime soap? And again, I don't mean temporarily -- but permanently, from episode #1 until the series' final episode.

Okay, then I stand corrected. But doesn't that rather defeat the purpose of promos, and especially cross-overs? The entire purpose promos is to drive conversation and drive ratings. I can say the same thing for cross-overs. If the fans don't know ahead of time, a cross-over is rather useless in terms of cross-pollinating the audience, and increasing ratings. A cross-over is never intended to be a surprise. And you have to agree that the network obviously wants fans to be discussing this. However if that is the rule, I will abide by it.

Okay, then is has to come from a Friday promo to be "not a spoiler"?? In-between promos don't count? Really??? Is that something you just made-up on the fly?

We've discussed things from promos many many times here. In fact, after almost every Friday promo. I don't recall any of that being labeled spoiler. If something is in an official promo, the network clearly wants it to be discussed by the public. That's the purpose of promos.

It's not a spoiler. The promo has already been released by CBS. I've seen it. If the network already released it, how can it be a spoiler? CBS literally wants the public to be discussing it.