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i can't imagine a wealthy, well-known, famous, conceited plastic surgeon getting involved with a woman two weeks out of homelessness. I hope they don't go there.

It's an efficiency/studio apartment. That's the way they always are -- minus the platform, which is weird.

I remember Kim standing on a front porch near the front door, and behind her was film of a real tornado. They used rather primitive green-screen (sometimes called chromakey) effects to put the tornado and Kim in the same shot. It didn't look very realistic, but it was probably the best they could do with that technology. I don't remember any special background music, but they may have used something new and weird for that scene.

I wish the Anita Williams impersonator had been a real drag queen. That would have been far more believable, and more humorous. Having the impersonator be played by Tamara Tunie just caused fans to wonder what the Hell was happening. I'm sure some fans understood it was an impersonator, but others likely thought Anita has a doppelgänger -- which is a tired old trope. And I hope it doesn't go in that direction. Anita and her impersonator are not by any means to the level of Kathrine and Marge.

They just need to give Ashley some back-story, so the audience understands her background and what makes her tick. That will also give Jen Jacobs some subtext to play. Currently she just recites her lines like a junior high drama student. She shows no subtext at all. I can say the same for Derek.

The small video ad at the lower right of the screen expands and consumes the entire screen. After I minimize the add, my screen is entirely frozen. I have to close Safari on my laptop, and reopen safari. But when I return to SON forum, the same problem occurs repeatedly. Makes it nearly impossible to post on SON forum. Frankly, I'll surprised if it doesn't happen before I am able to post this message. What's happening??

Who is Cane's twin's son? I don't recall.

This is all just so weird. Cricket isn't even a contract character, and hasn't been for 20-ish years. Same for Danny. Why is their wedding even being written into the scripts? They are the type of couple who should sail off to an island for their off-screen wedding. And return later -- or perhaps not return. I LOVE soap opera nostalgia, and mining the past for storylines. But Cricket and Danny's wedding will be nothing more than "filler" because Y&R currently has such weakly-written plots. Why not write some romance for a few of the contract characters??

Interesting. I'd love to know those exact details. I do remember Vicki's first trial for murder with Karen's famous scene. AW's Pat Randolph was well known for her two murder trials. But many AW fans have forgotten that Pat was also a suspect in the murder of Bernice Robinson around 1971-72. Pat was not tried for the murder, because Mark Venable confessed to killing Bernice on Pat's patio after a sexual affair with Bernice had ended badly. Thankfully poor Pat did not stand trial for murder THREE times. LOL. Now, that would have been one for the record books!! LOL.

Thanks for the response. Was Dorian actually on trial for both murders, or just accused?

Where did Michelle find Jen Jacobs? Has JJ previously been on a soap opera? I don't recall seeing this actress in anything before BTG. In my opinion, JJ needs an acting coach pronto. And whoever is writing Ashley's plot and dialogue needs a writing coach -- also, pronto.

I'm trying to identify all the soap opera characters who went on trial for murder two different times. So far, I have the following: GH - Jesse Brewer: ____ Prentice and later, Phil Brewer AW - Pat Randolph: Tom Baxter and later, Greg Barnard EON - Martha Marceau: Unknown character and later, Taffy Simms Is anyone aware of other characters in this unique situation?

Bill Bell wrote super couples on DOOL. He wrote Bill/Laura and Julie/Doug. They were the first two super couples on DOOL. Just because they didn't go on silly capers and cloak and dagger espionage, doesn't mean they were not super couples.

After today's scenes with the Duprees, Ted, and Bill, I've come to believe the Dupree family desperately needs at least one character to be the the family's moral compass. That role could easily be filled by Anita. The writers would just need to soften her slightly -- giving her a bit of empathy for outsiders. Similar to Miss Ellie Ewing on Dallas. Miss Ellie was living in a house full of vipers, while she loved and supported each of them -- sometimes to a fault. But still -- when things got out of hand, the viewers could see in her eyes, that Miss Ellie was not happy with what was happening. She seldom had to say a word, but we could see it subtlety in the acting skills of Barbara Bel Geddes. Our Miss Tunie could certainly play that type of subtext. I'm not suggesting Anita should become a clone of Ellie Ewing, but simply suggesting the family needs someone who is capable of seeing a side the rest of the family refuses to see -- whoever that might be. And Anita might be a good choice.

Agreed. Finally Keith is playing Ted as a strong character. And I love it. But please do not make him have sex with Leslie. Jesus Lord... I do not want to see that!!

Oh, I agree it's not simple. And it was played with complexity, as it should have been. But Smitty still used Martin. No way to deny that. I only wish Martin would have said, "I give up," walked out the door, and slammed it behind him. Leaving Smitty to stew in his own juices. The entire thing is as complex as Hell. But Smitty is certainly no longer the poor put-upon victim in this relationship.

Me too! I'm so glad I paid mine. Martin even slipping a little tongue. Now, that's a kiss!

Well, if that happens that will leave only two Dupree marriages in tact -- Anita/Vernon and Naomi/Jacob. And there are rumblings that Naomi/Jacob are headed for trouble soon. Frankly, I'm a little tired of watching Dupree marriages explode before our eyes. I love BTG, but that trope is becoming tired and redundant.

That's for sure.

Yeah, it was rather weird. Smitty is supposed to be a good guy, yet he had sex with a man he knows is in love with him, then kicked Martin to the curb. So he used Martin for sex. That does not demonstrate the actions of a good guy. The lead-up scene was so great -- a nice kiss without the camera cutting away, then discretely going upstairs, and a short love-scene. So finally, we see Smitty and Martin being tender and intimate with one another. Then five minutes later, Smitty is having post-sex regrets and sends Martin back to the couch. Strange writing in my opinion.

Not to the degree of Luke/Laura, of course. But I'd suggest Mike/Leslie were a super-couple of the 1970s -- not unlike Bill/Laura or Doug/Julie on DOOL, or Alice/Steve on AW. 1970s super-couples were more grounded than those of the 1980s-90s, and had fewer bells and whistles. But they were super-couples to be sure.

Agreed. There have been surprisingly few shirtless men on BTG in the first 100 episodes. Although there has been a lot of sex occurring, very little skin has been shown on camera. Is this a conscience choice on the part of TPTB? And if so, why??

Is is your job to protect everyone from spoilers? Frankly, I'd prefer that kind of thing be done by one of the site administrators/owners. Having posters admonish one another for breaking rules the average poster doesn't even know about is rather offensive. It reeks of brown-nosing. Just my opinion, of course. So carry on.

Creating a show is different from creating characters. So some show creators (and their estates) might receive royalties, depending on their original agreements/contracts. I don't believe soap opera creators are covered by the writers' guild rules, so creators are free to negotiate any kind of agreement then can get. If the story about Sam Hall is true, that would have been an extremely unusual contract, and well beyond the expectations of the writers' guild. Perhaps ABC offered him that as sort of a "signing bonus" to get him to take the head-writing job, but not for creating particular characters. I have read comments from many former soap opera writers who claim the legend that writers receive on-going royalties for characters they create is absolutely false. So I believe them.

Oh, that would have been wonderful. And how strange it was for Bob and Kim not to have a home set for the final nine-years of the show. I remember when TPTB reluctantly brought back Scott DeFretis during the Andy/Denise storyline (wasn't this around 2001?) -- the entire plot took place in the Hughes kitchen, because the living room/foyer set had been struck almost a year earlier. Aside from the original Mona Lisa set and the Yacht Club pool set, the Hughes living room/foyer was probably the biggest set in the studio. Even bigger than Lucinda's house, which was supposedly a mansion. And the Hughes set had become so iconic, there was really no acceptable way to "shrink" it when the budget got tight -- because the viewers would have noticed immediately and would have rebelled. So TPTB just scrapped it, and moved most of the Hughes "important moments" to Tom and Margo's house, or to Memorial Hospital. Unfortunate, because it minimized Bob and Kim, and we then saw them mostly at work.