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23 hours ago, dio said:

 

to be fair, Reese only got the idea because Taylor was interested in finding a baby for Steffy... one could argue Reese never would have done this if the temptation of Taylor wasn't there. One could also argue Hope should have kept her ass at home like everyone was telling her to. LOL 

C'mon, Dope or any other Logan can't be responsible for idiotic choices!  "Pose, Pose," anyone?  I wish someone would call her out on the Catalina trip, if only to avoid B&B's usual "good/bad" approach to far more complex stories. 

So how do you think Widge will rationalize Dumb-Az behavior? And how soon will Brooke 'very wide, big open heart' welcome $B back? 

16 hours ago, xtr said:

I do wonder how much of this drop can be attributed to the Directv blackout which began the week of the 20th. And I heard from fans who have that provider that their dispute with CBS has been resolved and a lot of people have now gotten CBS back.

 

None the less this show is still focusing way too much on Adam, Nick, Chelsea and Kyle and Lola. All of these characters get too much airtime and their storylines aren't very interesting. 

THe DTV blackout ended, but, 3MM DISH customers also lost CBS in several markets. When both were out, it was peak of 6.5MM homes. So I wouldn't be surprised if these drops are tied to that. No word on when DISH and CBS will come to an agreement. 

I do wonder how many viewers ended up streaming on CBS.com or CAA, which is what CBS wants.   

49 minutes ago, Ponds said:

Hope should be happy that Taylor bought that baby and that Steffy has mothered her.  If not, and the baby went to an unknown woman, it would be a done deal and Hope would never know that her child was alive.  I know...it's just a soap.  

Not only that, Dope was able to watch PhoeBeth grow during those months. Same for Lame. Plus, she was being raised with her half-sister.  I have a feeling that Stuffy is going to be the shrew here with illogical arguments - not to dissimilar to the ridiculous "Mur-dah!" storyline. 

Is there any chance that PhoeBeth isn't Lame's? Or that they revisit Kelly's paternity? I kinda recall $B skulking around the hospital during Kelly's paternity testing, but maybe I'm mixing things up. 

2 hours ago, Ponds said:

They've drug this story out for months & months and then wrap it up in two days.

Yeah. Except for the handing over of Beth, I mean what else is there to really extend. The fallout coverup characters are all disposable. Dumb-As reform has really little to do with the secret because he came unto it so late. Because he's a recent recast, I don't believe the audience is invested in him.

Does B&B have any secondary stories going? I can't for the life of me think of anything else based on the recaps from the past few weeks.  

1 hour ago, SamandWillowFan said:

The Sharon and Adam sex scene looks hot, especially the part where he threw her on the bed. I think it's funny that she's wearing the same pink underwear set that she wore in Adam's sex dream.

At 48, Sharon Case is still smokin' hot. The fact that she doesn't look ANYTHING like a cradle-robbing cougar opposite a 32-y.o. Mark Grossman is remarkable.  

On 7/31/2019 at 5:03 PM, Gray Bunny said:

LOL at Steffy’s constant bare midriff these past few weeks. JMW, we get ya girl. You had a baby recently and your body’s already snatched again. Good for you

I tuned in today - happened to be home - and decided to watch Dope finding out truth. The thing that struck me was JMW's midriff - just a little pressed. I love her, but I just wanted to tell her that she doesn't need to prove to anyone she's still smokin'! 

Watching Dope and Dumb-As very creepy scenes, why on earth would Dope marry him? There's nothing wrong with the 'betrayed by a lover holding a big secret' plot point, but it seems like it would've been far more effective if Dope had actually fallen for him. It would've been plausible - familiar guy who helped her through her grief so she could be happy again.

Instead, I'm watching this supposedly intelligent, kind woman who decided to marry someone voluntarily, but is cringing at him touching her. What is this 1940? If I didn't know that she'd learn truth at end of the episode, I would've turned it off after that first scene. It was that repulsive to me. But, hey, maybe I'm missing something here.

7 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

Streaming playback at CBS.com seems to be pretty solid, so it might also factor in...

Exactly. It's a smart move to get people there. I remember when Y&R  was on POP.  If there was a partial pre-emptions, the same-day ratings on POP episode spike significantly. I'm betting the same thing happens online.  

It's the only way I watch now. And, since, I've gone cordless (no DVR), it's easy to binge a few episodes at a time. 

It is a great idea. Soaps are really lagging when it comes to digital/streaming, particularly with the MAMMOTH libraries of episodes (current and cancelled shows) that aren't generating any revenue. I don't get why they don't work out deals with Hulu/Netflix/Amazon/CBSAA to put them on there. Dark Shadows is on Amazon and it's been great to binge. Soaps are literally MADE for bingewatching! 

8 hours ago, Ponds said:

 

I think it should have been Friday's show but there was a preemption due to Mueller's testimony.

B&B and Y&R aired on Wednesday - at least in enough areas that it didn't qualify as national preemption. Perhaps there was another preemption during last 2 months? Interestingly, Mondays are usually far higher rated than Fridays, so it could've been intentional. Who knows with Bell!

16 hours ago, Vizion said:

 

On Twitter  a week or two ago Hunter basically said something like the show has been nonsensical crap since 2001 so I doubt she is pressed to come back unless she gets bored and feels like getting a recurring check or something. 

Interesting and not entirely untrue. Though it sure seems like she had a lot of fun doing those scenes with KKL during the past year. 

@crc I'd like to think that Craylor's absence was intentional. And, I agree that having Dumb-As as $B's shooter would clean-up a lot of things and make a lot more sense. I never bought the original reason given for the shooting. 

Since Stuffy was so illogically desperate to have a sibling mere months after giving birth, no reason why Autie Stuffy couldn't raise Douglas and give Kelly a 'brother.' Problem solved and a lot better than saddling Dope with him. 

Has World-Renowned Psychiatrist Cray-lor been around to observe Dumb-As?   

The DTv blackout started Saturday, July 20, a full week after the above ratings period. DTv blackout will first impact July 22-26 ratings. BTW - CBS primetime this week hasn't been affected significantly.  DTv still has black out of 174 stations (various networks, including NBC/ABC) in 97 markets that are owned by Nexstar earlier this month. Another reason why I'm glad I cut the cord 18 months ago. 

@KMan101 @xtr B&B marriage obsession/having babies has been my #1 issue with the show.

How is that the 3rd Generation of B&B (Lame, Dope, Stuffy, Ct. WyNot, DumbAs, P-rick, etc.) have all been obsessed with getting married since they teens/early 20s? These are RICH, self-absorbed spawn who are tied to high profile publishing, fashion businesses. They should be hooking-up,  experimenting/abusing drugs/alcohol, clubbing, going to Mexico on wild vacas and on-and-on.

Maybe someone should tell Brad to watch Veronica Mars/The OC from the 00s if he needs ideas.

And don't get me started on the fact that all of them are in executive positions, but have many have graduate degrees, much less college degrees - even though the key 1st/2nd Gen are all educated, even Brooke! 

Wasn't DG 35 and CK 19 when that story started? As an illicit affair, yeah, that would've been OK. But I've resented the full-on Lame for years because it took Lily out of her younger years and turned her into a matron while she was in her 20s.

My comment about age: Replace BM with ED (1 year difference). The show toyed with CAsh before Eileen was shipped to DAYS in 2012. We all know what this is about.

Bell was a genius when he created Traci. Except for the prurient suicide attempt, Traci has been a remarkable and groundbreaking character, which is mainly because of BM's skills as an actor. I'm sure it was easy for her in the 80s because I bet she received a lot of direct or implied pressure to conform. Frankly, it's bold of this regime to attempt giving Traci a romance after all these years. 

Binged the week. Kind of boring. 

Good:

1. ELR is a natural and looks fantastic. If Celeste is given some depth, she could work with Aunt Jack. But we know the odds are against her staying long-term. 

2. I figured Ana was a goner/2x month character, but I really like LL. Devon explaining why he wants her to work with Theo was solid. 

3. Myle - the natural chemistry is only heightened when Kyle/Lola scenes follow

4. Phyllis' party disaster. Perfect. And that the 3 people who did show, have always stuck by Phyllis.

5. Surprisingly, Kevin is much less annoying this time around. Though I'd never want to see Kevin driving any story. Recurring in limited doses could work.

Indifferent/Bad

1. Chelsea. Why is this husband, who apparently is dead after 3 episodes, even brought into the mix? Not necessary. Chadam have such a complicated history that the audience would buy her reluctance to jump back into a relationship.  

2. Connor/Christian. OMG it was getting really confusing/annoying as different characters were going back and forth about the two of them discussing paternity, adoption, etc. The whole thing about Connor seeing Chelsea's husband as his father was just bizarre considering Chelsea barely left GC 15 months ago. Connor 'barely' remembers Adam? Did Chlesea erase the thousands of hours of video footage public/private that available on Adam Newman? 

3. Drunk SuperGirl. No! Though Phyllis 'rescuing/mothering' her were better than I expected.

4. Victoria confronting Phyllis was completely flat - bad set-up, dialogue and AH was playing it far too distant. This should have had much more fire. 

3 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

Mariah and Kyle do have great chemistry. It’s too bad the show is dead set on keeping them in pairings that will NEVER work.

I know, right? Instead of locking Mariah into being 'gay,' it would be far more groundbreaking and consistent with the character's history, if she were pan/fluid. Like ED, it's been challenging finding a sizzler for CG, but Myle just jumped from Day 1. 

On 6/25/2019 at 7:49 AM, Fevuh said:

How could she be brought back as Hilary?  Didn't she die in front of them all after the car accident?  She actually wasn't dead and Nate kidnapped her?  (Why would he do that?)?  That would be similar to how they ruined Neil...kidnapping her to "save" her.  

After PhillipIV was revived... As soon as Hilary 'died,' I said they had the out with Nate shipping her off to a clinic to try experimental treatments.

Just like getting CG back with an unknown twin, I seriously doubt the vast majority of viewers will care how MiM is brought back. The viewers will give a pass on whatever ridiculousness for a beloved actor/character. 

On my fifth episode after lapsing for months, what an unexpected surprise to watch Esther learn the truth. I really hated that Kevin 'knew,' while Esther suffered the same pain as Chloe losing Delia. It was incredibly twisted and a huge misstep in not understanding what a mother will do to protect her child. Esther would've never revealed the secret.  

So I decided to stream Monday and Tuesday episodes after not watching for months. Xanax is so dead, which is OK. 

Do we know for sure that it was DumbAs' car that was directly behind BlechEmma's? It was heavily implied. Did they actually cut to Thomas driving behind her showing he was the one who was tailgating her. If not, that's a big out.

I'm glad Brooke/$Bl mentioned that C2 violated by him. Otherwise, what's great about B&B is that it only takes one or two episodes to catch-up on the current storyline. The downside is that I won't need to watch until the next 'shocking' event happens. 

1 hour ago, Antoyne said:

Ugh I liked Avery when she was feisty but not when her storyline became baking. Snooze.

It was cringe-worthy and certainly not what befitting someone as talented as JC. I have no idea how she'd fit in, but if giving Michael a viable law practice again, Avery has work options (or being Newman lawyer again). 

And I fully expect a Dylan recast - he's just gotta be Chelsea's mystery husband. It's a far better option for a number of reason - existing character; plenty of history with Nick, Sharon, etc., plus Nikki/Paul. 

I watched Y&R for the first time since Nikki's tribute on Friday for obvious reasons. I was actually surprised at how much better the entire structure/pace/dialogue v. MY era.

I've made no secret that I have great love for GT (been a fan since GL), but she was wasted for much of her run as StePhyllis. It was weird, just seeing MS back at Y&R somehow makes it 'complete' for me, so I'll probably check out more frequently. 

I've advocated for a PhAdam pairing for years - it just seems like that coupling would create so much conflict, chaos and great scenes with a multiple characters across the canvas. Of course, it would never last.

Now if MiM shows up as a 'real' character, I fear I'll be a daily viewer. Looking back, the end of Hilary was the end of daily viewing for me. I just adored Mishael and felt she just commanded you to watch. 

On 6/11/2019 at 10:38 AM, Fevuh said:

I know it's an awful awful cop-out but it's such a huge mistake with Marla/Dina.  I'd retcon that the hot Silver Fox guy who was taking care of her was drugging her and it caused side effects that look like Alzheimers and have it stop. 

Yep. That's what I proposed as the story was happening. I know this was Mal's 'pet' story, but he totally missed the point that Dina (Marla) easily filled two crucial voids: 1) JC/Kay as the grande dame of GC and 2) providing a parental structure to the Abbott clan, something Jack has never been able to do since John's ridiculous offing. Not to mention that Dina has real/on-screen connections with most of the canvas - she was friends with Victor back in the day; Devon through Kay; obviously, the Abbotts, Jill, etc. 

If it weren't for the fact that Marla Adams just kills every time she's on-screen, I wouldn't be as bent about this decision, but she is truly amazing. Just do it! 

Fans of the show are willing to accept stuff for characters/actor they love. It was no big deal to come up with "Mariah" and the unknown twin because of CG. The situation would be exactly the same if the bring back Hilary. Heck, Adam's returned from the dead -- at least 3 times (the bone marrow foil, Billy shooting and the explosion). 

58 minutes ago, Khan said:

They look like brother and sister.

Yikes! Their eyes! Why'd you put that in my head? LOL 

7 hours ago, Darn said:

Whenever this show gets too boring they move the boring to a foreign country.

At least they do it better than any other daytime soap in history. Except for the MC wash-out a couple of years ago, all the remotes are top-notch.

I know the show's 'only' been on for 32 years, but someday they'll figure out how to tell stories that aren't steeped in weeks of repetitive dialogue, including the dreaded episodes where the same dialogue is repeated in 2 or 3 scenes. If only Bell would study Dark Shadows and TEON, he'd figure out there's plenty of ways to craft amazing and compelling scenes that move the long-running stories forward without feeling repetitive.