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Seeing JH today on B&B, made me feel like ATWT was on a few minutes early.... Sigh.

Happy Birthday, ATWT!

Happy Birthday TEON!

I became hooked on EON during the Jefferson Brown S/L and thought it was a great show. Looking back now at older episodes prior to LM's arrival, I realize that the show suffered with the loss of three key male characters: Eliot, Logan and Draper.Losing those actors in such a relatively short period of time, really hurt the show. Still think Eliot was best pairing for Raven - love their back and forth - whether a co-conspirators, lovers or "fre-enemies". They always lit up the screen.

Yes. Molly taped her and Holden "doin' it", and eventually, Lily proved she'd edited footage together to make it look like Holden was actively participating. (I swear this involves Lily somehow pretending to want to buy Molly's "sex tape" or something and going "undercover" at a porn distributor, but I can't swear to it.)

You are absolutely correct about the porn distributor! I loved that sequence. What was great was that Lily knew it was a fake and she used her "history" with WOAK. Something like "I own a TV station, so I know editing." I was so glad that they didn't make Lily totally stupid. It was a good choice to put an end to that farce.

Fantastic photos. Fantastic cast and show...there'll never be another one like it.

That's for sure! Funny how April Digest is printing December photos! What a different world! BTW -- What I wouldn't give to see episodes from 1977-1979 - Sharon Gabet's first two years on Edge. It's too bad the ones that are out there start a few weeks before she left (and, of course, came back), but I'd love to see how she evolved during that period.

Total bait and switch. After seeing the pilot, I was hooked on what would lead to Daniel's death. "Choas" was the title of the episode - more like hot mess. So the Japanese guy, somehow managed to track down Tyler's car - presumably close to the barn - popped the truck in secret, grabbed the box, had it gift wrapped, so that E-manda could bury it on the beach AND then somehow ends up right by Jack's car to pick up A-mily when she left the beach - even though know one would've know she'd be there. My fear that this would spiral down like DH after the first season is coming true. Not giving up yet, but not as excited as I once was.

I remember a friend and I watching that together in college. It was the first time we ever saw a soap end before and we were fascinated. I am glad the aol videos are out there and now being streamed on YT but I wish just a little later will eventually make its way. I don't need to see Preacher and Del again, but I would love to see again the back to back murders of Nora and Nicole again.

Catherine Bruno was so wickedly awesome. What was even better was the way she was brought on the show and we had no idea that she had an agenda. Nora's murder episode still ranks as one of the best. I remember watching it and being completely shocked at HOW she was killed. It still gives me chills. HS was a genius. To be honest, for me, the loss of Nora signified a bit of the end because her reign of terror was so terrific and nothing really matched that.

27th Anniversary of the end of TEON. Last episode aired December 28, 1984.

Andy and Courtney a lot more believe than Andy and Denise! (It was a great twist, but I felt it.) On a side note, as we're a week away from Thanksgiving, I think about all the wonderful day-before Thanksgiving ATWT episodes. I don't think any show did them better. (Even Dr. John faking his death on that day in 1982 was a classic cliffhanger.)

Years ago, before I ever saw any Edge of Night, I read the Edge of Night homepage, again and agin. I was fascinated by a section in Raven's profile where she talked about how she'd named herself Raven. This episode has the scene.

Was Raven always supposed to only be gone for a short time or was this supposed to be a permanent exit? The music in the scene seems like a goodbye. Beautiful, beautiful music.

So was this Mandel Kramer's last episode? Quite a momentous episode in several ways.

Carl: This has always been a mystery to me as well. I've suspected that SG quit the show - based on two things: 1) her exit was pretty harsh (giving away her son) and 2) when EON moved to the new title sequence in June 80, she was not included - even though she had returned. I always thought that was so strange considering how many stories revolved around Raven. I viewed it as punishment.

One wonders why CBS didn't move EON back to 4:00 p.m. after it dropped so sharply. The irony is that because EON was "expendable" to CBS when it expanded ATWT and because ABC's ratings were not great at that time, it did get nine more years. It's just a shame that what was the #2 soap for several years was bumped like that. I have always been curious how AW just completely dove in such a short period - I know ABC's strength didn't help (CBS held up well), but the NBC line-up really dove.

Just watching SP of SUV 2.0 as they are calling it. Can't believe they removed TT from opening credits AND put DP and KG ahead of RB and IT. What a slap in the face. KG accent - ugh! (And I like her.)

Love in the afternoon? More like death in the afternoon!

LOL. MURDER was the premise of EON and, honestly, no one did it better consistently then or has since.

In Sept. 1972, EON moved from it's late afternoon slot (4:30 p.m.) to (2:30 p.m.) so that P&G could group it's soaps together. For the previous seasons, EON was #2 (69-70), #2 (70-71), #4 (71-72) and, then after move #10 (72-73). It was a stupid move since 50% of audience was male + big with after school bunch. Also, there was between 17-19 soaps during that period. (Half-hours) Finally, the ratings were far smaller as the US population was 200 MM in 1970 and 308 MM in 2010. (Although there were significantly more women at home and with far fewer choices, it would be interesting to know how many people were really watching.)

The most amazing thing was that the writers planned to make Emily Alec's killer, but, thank goodness, CBS stepped in and say "H*ll to the No!" I have to thank CBS for making that decision, even though Emily character assassination continued. I never understood why they just used Emily as a punching bad - I had to quit for awhile when they made her a prostitute - really - journalist to hooker? As KMH said "It's disgusting", but she was always a team player. ITA - the Tom, Margo, Emily triangle was not explored in the best possible way. Oh, well.

Max: Even with the low clearance, ABC still wanted EON, but P&G did not want to continue. I was in St. Louis and the CBS and NBC soaps were by far the most dominant. (In fact St. Louis was the #1 market for Y&R in the US for years.) The ABC affiliate aired EON starting in 1981 after Nightline and another show. It usually came on at 12:40 am or later. I discovered it by accident and was hooked immediately, so I started recording (or staying up late!). Surprisingly, they kept it there until the end. It was interesting because I started seeing letters to the local paper's TV section asking questions about EON - like the time when Larkin Malloy was out for a few weeks due to an accident and was replaced and viewers were complaining. I then realized, I was not alone!

That's interesting about Gail Kobe, as I can't say I have been bowled over by the production values on her GL (perhaps the huge hair and gaudy clothes and somewhat vacant sets were more of a soap mandate of that era).

Thanks for telling us more about the background of the characters. I knew Deborah started out as a bit spoiled but didn't know the full background.

I wonder why they didn't have Deborah and Steve leave together. Why do you think Albee didn't work out on OLTL?

Was Chris Egan very popular?

I know what you mean about the show's production values later on. What can you say about this thing? (Now someone will tell me this was a very popular opening)

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=DxAbOLR8xjc

Do you think there was any real need to recast Jody when Lori Loughlin left? And do you think the show should have gone with their initial idea of making her a vixen?

This was the intro that I believe most fans hated because it was so cheesy. (The only good part was Gunther and the feather duster!) Obviously by my avatar it's clear which era I prefer 1980-83, but I'm partial because that was when I was most into it.

No need to recast Jody, but that wasn't the problem. It was the loss of HS as head writer that truly hurt the show. I liked Deborah -- didn't at first, but after watching several months, I liked her (and Steve).

Looking back the loss of Logan, Draper and April were pretty significant. Also, axing Elliott as foil (or secret lover) for Raven really was a dagger. Until I went back and watched those episodes, I didn't realize just how good that combination (of all those characters) was for the show.

The other thing that I loved about Slesar was the way threads of future stories were laid out months in advance, only to be picked up when you least expected. The complexity would never play today. I'm specifically thinking about Jeff Brown/Sky/Val/Jim/Guther/Nora/Spencer/Damien/Carlo/Martine with Raven right smack in the middle. It's fascinating to watch things pop up and then think back - "that's right". I'm remember when Gunther mentioned his wife, etc. There were some big shockers then. I only wish more EON episodes from 77-79 and conclusion of Clown Puppet Murders were available.

Ben Hendrickson was such an underrated talent. This is what I loved about ATWT - for the most part they hired actor - not just hair models. He was salt of the earth and yet had some sort of ability to work with all these leading ladies and it wasn't weird == even MW and KMH == good stuff came out of each story. My favorite Hal moment was one day when he walked in the station, saw some donuts on a desk and started singing "All the cops in the donut shop say" from Walk Like an Egyptian! It was one of those perfect moments.

Four months since the finale.... It's a good thing so much stuff is on youtube (and more keeps getting added). It's kind of been fun going back and revisiting some of the great stories. Fortunately, there's a lot of good stuff out there. It was a bummer not to tune in during holidays for the usual celebrations.

On this, the 26th Anniversary of Edge's cancellation, I received something very special in the mail...A script from the Jan. 14, 1976 episode (#5148), just about six weeks after the show moved to ABC.

What a beautiful keepsake!

Wow! That is a fantastic gift on this sad anniversary.... How were you so fortunate to obtain it? BTW -- It still p's me off that P&G would not accept ABC's offer to continue. I have a feeling if ABC bought the property, it would have lasted at least five more years (and they would have rallied to get their affliates to start airing it.) Oh, well, water under the bridge. I'm still surprised that it hasn't been rebooted.

The whole Iris thing with "Daddy" was pretty sick. It would be different if she was in her teens or maybe early 20s, but 35. (And 35 in 1976 was a lot different than it is today. Try like 50 or older.) I'm starting to understand why AW started to take a free-fall in the ratings during this time. Don't get me wrong, I started watching AW in 1979 and enjoyed BM performances, but really.

I adore the funky groovy 1976 As the World Turns logo. Over the last decade, with retro so in style, Goutman would have been smart to use a modified version of this for the show's title card. Young people would have seen it as fresh, funky and older fans would have had acid trip flash backs. ATWT had such a rich history but Goutman never brought back any blasts from the past or even their children. Fans are forgiving when it comes to recasts and there was so much potential in the show's history. I never realized how radically Marland revamped the show and, in the process, eliminated characters and entire families. I would have rather watched an extended Stuart family or even the McColls as opposed to the sappy Snyder clan.

That was never the ATWT logo -- just a cheap graphic the magazine created. During the 1970s, the logo was spinning globe with "As" on one line "the World Turns" on second line with orchestra music, which was color version of title from the original title sequence. Check youtube for ATWT logo history. In 1981, intro was switched to first modern version -- with globe spinning from outer space, forming the O in "World" and the three beams of light.

And don't forget JC's stint on Dark Shadows. If you've ever seen any of the episodes, he was drop dead handsome. Such a shame. Anyway, back to EON, it's amazing watching the episodes that are out there, they had such a solid cast. To me, it was the perfect 30 min show. The only time it slipped was the Jody-centric stuff or the dance sequences. Otherwise, pretty consistent with Slesar's ability to weave incredibly intricate stories. Once he was gone, it was over.

I wouldn't consider Deborah Adair a "temporary replacement" since she played the role for three years (1980-83). She did come back for a brief stint in 86 for Brenda Dickson.