Everything posted by edgeofnik
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B&B: July 2024 Discussion Thread
This isn't that unusual. Plenty of actors and musicians who had some degree of success or fame have fallen on hard times because the moneymaking years are quite short. In Tom's case, it may have been losing whatever money he had to drugs or that he couldn't get well-paying gigs and simply ran out of money. Unfortunately, B&B gave absolutely no opportunity for us to learn enough about Tom's history to understand or, frankly, care. He might as well have been a 5-line dayplayer.
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B&B: July 2024 Spoilers
Luna being the killer + not $B daughter = quick exit from the show. Luna's DID will be twisted into a weapon that victimized Zende. B&B previously whitewashed almost the exact same thing Thomas/Caroline, which we also saw onscreen. Starting the episode after her exit, Luna, Tom, Hollis + the mints will never be mentioned again. Within a week, Zende will start making the moves on Paris.
- B&B: July 2024 Discussion Thread
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B&B: July 2024 Spoilers
@dragonflies @Maxim is correct. I meant Sheila will the *prime suspect* on screen, but is absolutely innocent. As if we don't know that Steffy, Li, Ridge, etc. will rant for weeks that 'Sheila is toxic, murderer, a deadly threat' 'She needs to be locked away for us to ever to *safe* again' 'Finn needs to stay away from that monster!' Sheila is getting a long overdue reform/redemption story. Hopefully, Brad won't backtrack. The someone redeemed Quinn, who we know was really a Sheila-derivative being played by RS. They finally got to the point where Quinn was integrated into the Forresters, but still on enough on the outside to stir up drama. This is what should've happened with Sheila decades ago.
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B&B: July 2024 Spoilers
I spoke too soon about the show righting itself. Um, Sheila's sudden death was weird. Now, they murder a character that's been on for like 10 episodes - and the suspects are Li, Jack, Poppy, Justin and Sheila. Are you kidding me? It's obvious Sheila is suspect #1, but is innocent. The others? Who cares? Just bizarre. Justin has been horribly underused for years. I always hoped Donna/Justin would reunite with Marcus back.
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B&B June 2024 Spoilers
B&B ratings are down because not one story during the past 2 years has stuck. In fact, most have been met with indifference that I have to think hard about what's happened on the show! The only highlight was the SINN reunion in Monaco, but that disastrous story origin was exactly the start of the decline. Remember all the 'it's never been done before in soaps' + 'B&B will never be the same' - well, they were right! B&B has bombed out so bad that a lot of loyalists like me won't watch until the ship gets righted. I'm hopeful we're seeing the beginning of that change now.
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B&B June 2024 Spoilers
@Maxim 100%. Honestly, Poppy and Luna are so peripheral. It's not like Li is a character that's had any real impact to care about her family. What could've worked in a very soapy way: $B and Li started an affair after he found her in 2022. That would've been something that could've helped further integrate Li into the canvas. Li and $B announce their engagement -- Poppy and Luna slither into town. At least, we might have been mildly interested.
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B&B June 2024 Spoilers
I honestly thought they'd make Finn Luna's dad. It'd justify Li's anger, but I'd be glad if they just make it Jack. I suspect Poppy and Luna will be off canvas by September. That promo pic of Crew instantly made me think of JM when he first joined. KKL looks great. Now get Brooke away from Ridge.
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B&B June 2024 Spoilers
B&B is untouchable when it comes to remotes. While last year's was a rare miss, this is something the show has done incredibly well. Fingers crossed that B&B is finally course-correcting after two incredibly bad years where everything, except the SINN reunion in Monaco, landed flat. Putting KKL front-and-center as the show's *matriarch* is long overdue. Brooke and B&B are synonymous. Brooke + Steffy leading FC should've happened a long time ago. I hope this is the beginning of a solid era. I miss my show.
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B&B June 2024 Spoilers
At least this week has a theme.... Monday: Steffy’s worries Tues: Brooke concerned Wed: [Brooke] highly concerned and worried Thur: Steffy says she was more concerned
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B&B June 2024 Discussion Thread
Something that's always struck me as a B&B soap oddity: none of the Forresters have had an unrevealed/long lost child. None of the children or even Eric. Angela would've worked, but clearly they changed direction. Considering Ridge's playboy reputation, you'd think that would've been a slam dunk! Of course, Thorne was teased as Liam's dad for a minute. I guess that was a blessing! lol That said, after Aly was foolishly killed off, a long-lost child from the 'only Forrester/Douglas son' would show up to try to get control of FC. Imagine if Macy had a secret child: that'd be the Forrester/Douglas/Spectra trifecta! It's not like the soap hasn't used this trope. The Logans: Donna/Marcus and, obviously, the Spencers. I wonder why the Forresters were exempt?
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B&B: May 2024 Spoilers
'My birth mother is ALIVE!' The writers act is if B&B gains viewers who've never watched the show by the thousands daily. In fact, this type of dialogue has the exact opposite effect.
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B&B May 2024 Discussion Thread
Something that's distinguished Sheila from other soap villains who've committed major atrocities and, yet, somehow are well integrated within their shows: family, romances, careers, etc.: Extreme Wealth. Some examples Y&R: Adam, Victor. DAYS: Stefano, Kristin GH: Sonny, Ava. Her only brush with wealth was during her marriage to Eric and the 2 months with $B. Have there been times were vague comments about 'resources' - sure. But Sheila's never owned a nice home, has always had to work, etc. Except for the weird $B/Bunhead plot, Sheila's never had the 'buy my way out' ticket. Sheila has always had to outsmart, outmaneuver or manipulate her way out of jams. I think that's a big reason why Sheila has such a huge fan base.
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Y&R May 2024 Discussion Thread
“Are you a doctor now or do you just play one on TV?” - Nice callback to PB's commercial when he was on AMC.
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ARTICLE: Peacock Raises Prices for the First Time Since Launch, New Pricing Effective Next Billing Date for Current Subscribers
Another way to look at it: If the only thing you watch on Peacock are the 22 monthly episodes: that's 0.36 an episode for the month subscription. Watch other stuff and obviously the cost goes down further. Are subscription increases annoying? Yes! I only cancelled Netflix after all the CW shows I watched were done. I realized that was 95% of my viewing and what I enjoyed the most. If I was still into DAYS, I'd keep it.
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B&B: April 2024 Spoilers
As we've always said: 'in case of emergency...' While KB may have been in the dark, this was Brad's ultimate plan for two reasons: 1. Why kill off Sheila with absolutely no build up? The same events could've happened, except you parade numerous suspects during the night with the reveal being Steffy holding a bloody knife over Sheila's body. 2. How on earth could there be no Steffy gets arrested, goes on trial, etc.? That makes no sense at all. Why wouldn't you milk that drama for weeks? This was the same show that had us crying 'Muh-dah!' for months. 3, Steffy gets convicted and is about to go to jail when Deacon and Finn find Sheila is alive... SINN reunion. Steffy realizes holding on to her hatred of Sheila is destructive and decides to keep an open mind about Sheila and Finn.
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Y&R: Marla Adams has passed
Exactly. I couldn't figure out why they wouldn't position Dina as the Kay replacement for GC. Dina had ties to everybody in town - Chancellors/Hamiltons via her best friend Katherine; Newmans through Ashley/Abby, etc. She could've been put in a scene with almost character on canvas and have a connection. MA initial run was amazing. Even though it was implausible to believe that a woman who looked like Dina would be even vaguely unrecognizable to her children after 12 years, MA and the rest sold it so well. Like others, I wish they'd brought her back more frequently. A class act all the way.
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B&B: April 2024 Spoilers
AB actually looks really great. Ivy/Steffy: one issue is that Ivy has always been styled too closely to Steffy. Now, if they actually decided to show what we all know: that Ivy was obsessed with Steffy aka Single White Female, it'd be different.
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B&B: April 2024 Discussion Thread
KKL absolutely deserves a win at some point in her career. Brooke is only a viable character because of KKL. Good grief, even SF commented on the lack of Emmy love for KKL. I'm sure some of SF's Emmy wins included many scenes with KKL. I wonder what scenes KKL submitted for this year. Maybe something with AN?
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B&B: April 2024 Spoilers
Yes, please! I disagree with done to death? When was the last time the KB + TB actually shared scenes? Maybe I missed it, but I don't think they've done anything together after Sheila turned up alive in 2017.
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51st Annual Daytime Emmys to Air June 7 on CBS, Paramount+
I'm not saying these first nominees aren't worthy... It's just that those of us who watch/follow soaps would likely nominate several others. B&B has never been strong with male leads - so this is *surprising*
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BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
@DramatistDreamer The difference between March Madness/US Open is that those are full pre-emptions. UEFA are partial pre-emptions. The reality is that the traditional soap viewer still watches on linear, especially for CBS. If TG is pre-empted for UEFA in parts of the country, it's going to make it that much harder for viewers to stick with it/keep track of what's going on. Soaps are a habit. I do think the partial pre-emptions are also part of the promo challenge. It's like 'Hey, ET/CT you get to watch the soaps + soccer, but MT/PT you may get some soaps, but you'll probably get soccer.' It would be better just to do full pre-emptions on those days. I would love to see the numbers UEFA draws. Better than TT? Better than LMAD? Somehow I doubt either.
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
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ARTICLE: Kimberlin Brown Open to Joining Another Soap After Exit from ‘The Bold and the Beautiful’
@dragonflies True, but KB/Sheila are far bigger. Like I mentioned in an earlier post - the 10-toes reveal had 500+ comments on TVLine - it's been a long time since any story had that engagement. The Talk cancellation is around 65. Honestly, the character needs a break until Brad figures things out. He's absolutely bungled everything with Sheila except for the Deacon connection.
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B&B: April 2024 Discussion Thread
I just saw the 'Sugar' confirmation. I suppose the *rationale* is that Sugar was trying to frame Sheila. I won't even speculate 'why' Gosh, if I were writing this show in say 2004, I'd have Luna confront Zende with him taking advantage of her. If she chooses not to take legal action, make it a conscious choice. There's many valid reasons why someone chooses not to report. She should never apologize to RJ. It would've been better if they both Zende and Luna consuming the mints together, which would remove the consent issue. The story is exactly the same, but Zende is forever tainted until he undergoes 3 weeks of therapy and is fine.