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33 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

That one aired but I don’t think the others did, no. Weird.

Considering Dorinda tweeted that no clip existed, I think she thought they were not going to show the clip. Like what I understand happened with Leeann (didn't watch Dallas so may be wrong), Bravo must have been protecting Dorinda this whole time. I have never like Dorinda, but I realise a lot of people adore/adored her, but I think these sorts of housewives ruin the show. It's what has happened with RHOBH. If you're so afraid for a cast member's safety that you have her stay somewhere else, why are you allowing the other cast member to continue??? And what's even scummier is that the other women (minus Leah) knew about this and said NOTHING. Not even "truth-telling" Bethenny.

3 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Bravo won’t wake up though until the ratings actually drop. They’re convinced that the coven and the ghost of Thirsty Glanville bullying a cast member is why everyone is watching, and with the ratings being high and Denise quitting, they’ll just reward the coven again. If there’s not an actual cast shakeup I’ll probably follow along from this thread, but there is nothing that makes me want too see their smug asses do a victory lap.

I didn't watch RHOBH last year, and as much as I enjoy Garcelle and Sutton, I can't watch the show any longer unless they make changes. It's just too vicious and fake. 

Speaking of vicious: Who knew it would be Tinsley who would end the vicious Dorinda? Wow. Tinsley did not come to back down. She annihilated Dorinda. That was a reunion worth watching as we now know why Dorinda became psychotic about Tinsley.

I've said it before, but Carmen Duncan was sensational during the "Chief" storyline, and she should have won an Emmy. Duncan never got the acclaim or attention she deserved. I hate the way they destroyed her character by the end of her run. It's just another example of the AW brass not realising the talent they had. 

I didn't even want to give the RHOBH coven any time. I didn't watch last night. It's not worth the aggravation. At least with the RHONY reunion, we know Dorinda will have to pay for what she did. She got fired. In RHOBH's case, it was the bullied one who was chased off. It's all so icky and the glee that these women and Andy have in trying to destroy Denise is truly psychotic. That's leaving out the racist way Bravo and the women have dealt with Garcelle. I just can't anymore.

I thought Sandra Ferguson was a fine Amanda. I also liked RKK as Sam (the best one as it turns out). I think the problem was in the writing. I don't think Swajeski knew where she was going with the Evan/Olivia/Amanda/Sam storyline, and it showed. There was an odd rhythm to their stories. They would be the Friday cliffhanger, and then you wouldn't have cliffhanger resolved or talked about until Tues/Wed. of the next week. It was bizarre. I found that with most of Swajeski's stories. She could write a killer episode, and the stories always had potential, but they inevitably fizzled out because she hadn't focused on the long term. I liked the Amanda/Sam romance more so than the Lisa/Jamie one. I'm probably the only one who likes AW post-serial killer (still think killing off Quinn was a huge mistake) and pre-Swajeski period. IT wasn't always great, but it was immensely watchable. 

Tinsley owed the women nothing. She had every right not to stick around and be relentlessly attacked. Unlike Denise, Tinsley must be liked by Bravo because they gave her a great sendoff. The other women were horrible to her, and they continue to be horrible to her. There is no excuse for Dorinda's cruelty towards Tinsley. The turkey baster comment was beyond the pale. Sonja was no better, but she gets away with it because she doesn't have the relentless viciousness that Dorinda possesses. These women are angry that Tinsley tested better with viewers. If they were honest about that, I might be interested enough to care. Instead, they just lash out, and I'm sick of the cruelty on these shows. Dorinda also can't have it both ways. She can't say Tinsley is a fraud and brings nothing to the show, and then spew venom about how the show was almost destroyed by Tinsley's departure. 

3 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Well Dorinda just went out like the biggest unhinged a.sshole.

I had to watch this after your comment. I'm actually stunned. The RHOBH coven have nothing on her. That was so despicable. I still find it hilarious that it was Tinsley that sent Dorinda over the edge. 

I feel that Andy checked out a long time ago even on WWHL.

I'm curious why there has been no press about Bravo forcing Denise Richards to take down her like of the tweet accusing Rinna of racism. That says everything about the culture at Bravo.

Denise is not the first person to use cease and desists which makes the outrage so ridiculous. Do they want us to forget Kyle sent Brandi cease and desists? Of course, they do as it would mean Kyle can't claim Brandi is always honest. It also means they can't use the cease and desists as an admission of guilt. 

Sutton and Garcelle owned part one of the reunion. The other women were pathetic. I think it's worse than season four of RHONY because these women have no legitimate gripes against Denise. IF she lied, so what? It's not hurting them. It has nothing to do with them. They just see blood and they are attacking. Andy is an embarrassment. The man needs replaced. He's useless as a host. 

So Brandi prostituted herself (to the network) to get back on the show and now she's upset that it didn't work? Please. I can't with this woman. Where did seasons 2 & 3 Brandi go? 

They need to fire the editors and producers who protect Kyle. They have so much they could use to prove she's a liar, but they use nothing. They have Mauricio season three being accused of screaming at Brandi to protect his real estate relationship with Paul and Adrienne. You have LVP calling him out for the same thing. In the reunion, he slips up and admits that's the reason. Season four, he calls the women b*tches, but somehow, Kyle is so upset with Aaron.

Re:covid  Do audiences really want to watch arguments about covid and masks?  I'm exhausted by real-life idiots so I can't imagine wanting to watch shows where people like Kelly and Ramona are debating masks.

RHOP: Didn't Karen complain that Robyn had made fun of her costume last week? She pulled the "We shouldn't attack other women" bit. I guess she thinks it's ok to attack others, but no one can say anything about her. 

I don't understand people's need to tweet negative/hateful comments to people. That's what message boards are for. I can't stand Kyle, but I'm not going to tag her in an anti-Kyle tweet. A lot of these people just tweet these attacks so they can get blocked. A lot of them will have the list of people who've blocked them. I don't know why this would mean anything to them, but there it is.

Oh Porsha. You almost made me appreciate your efforts. I never liked her, but I thought maybe she had changed. Twerking??? 2020 is waiting for Ashton Kutcher to come out and reveal the cameras and the actors.

I was trying to remember the last time I thought RHOBH had a good season. I think 1-3 and 5 were the best ones. 4 was just a hateful mess, but that had nothing to do with Carlton and Joyce. From season six onward, the show just deteriorated into a dreary hateful mess with the housewives protecting their secrets at all costs. I'm now wondering if Taylor was more important to the success of the show than I thought.

Why are the edited out portions always so much interesting than what they leave in? This is always going on with RHOBH. Sutton even posted a little snippet of her singing during the finale party. Why couldn't they include that instead of all the Denise nonsense? It's just so aggravating that they could have a really good show in the raw material, but they choose to focus on one storyline that no one cares about. 

RHOBH: I rewatched some of the second season reunions. I dislike Adrienne. The woman had no sense of humor about herself, and she was so angry about anything LVP related. The drama about the "Maloof Hoof" and how Adrienne thinks she is so important that an online publication would give LVP five figures for a boring story. It was so obvious Adrienne never wanted to be on the show and she resented LVP's success. It also depressed me to see how this Brandi became the gutter trash she is now. I never cared for Taylor, but at least Taylor's problems were real and serious, and it was not some scripted nonsense to protect the others from having to reveal anything. I miss that on RHOBH and other shows. I obviously don't want to see someone abused, but I mean real emotionally charged lives not the incessant drinking and the ganging up.

RHONY:Still tickles me that Tinsley brought Dorinda down. Anyway, Bravo released a clip of Luann talking about her father's drinking. This is why I never liked Dorinda. Dorinda never really wants to get that deep (Contrary to Carole) unless it's about Richard. That's why Luann is the much better housewife. 

I made the mistake of watching the finale. What a piece of sh*t. IT was worse than I imagined it would be. They so wanted to have a Brandi/Denise showdown but Denise wouldn't give it to them. They even had to pull a producer out to try to gaslight Garcelle. Boy the producers and Bravo just don't get it. Lisa Rinna's act is beyond. I have lost any regard I've ever had for her. I can't even look at her. She disgusts me so much. She has no shame or guilt for what she participated in. Ugh. 

1 hour ago, Chris B said:

Also, here is the full context with Garcelle and Rinna. The tweet I’m quoting is among Rinna’s likes on Twitter which shocked me. Shows she knows she fucked up. I don’t think she expected Bravo to show the full clip and now it proves her to be a liar. 

I'd like to think so, but I imagine that Rinna probably thinks that the haters just don't understand her. She thrives on being disliked. I would Rinna to have some semblance of humanity, but if she did, she would have immediately apologized for all the hate she threw Garcelle's way. Instead, radio silence.

Thank you @Taoboi for posting the link.

I  take any site with a grain of salt because anyone can be right sometimes. Most of these sites just throw out stories and hope that any of them stick.

IS Bravo really going after the expensive older stars, or are the long-established stars imploding (Tamra, Nene, Vicki,  Dorinda, Leann, Ramona, etc.) and Bravo sees a way to cut costs? They never would have let LVP go if she hadn't quit. IF anything, I think these personalities last longer than they should have because the network thought fans had loyalty to them. In a way, I get it because the HW shows are like soaps, and when you start firing the veterans, you do lose viewer loyalty. I just think Bravo gets it wrong when they think viewers have loyalty to certain wives over others.

4 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

 

What full context?

That Garcelle had brought up her own situation with her son and that her questions about Rinna's dancing were in that context. It was not an attack, and it was not taken as an attack at the time. Rinna is only now using it to get publicity.  You can find the edited footage on twitter. 

Dorinda fired herself. Her behavior was deplorable this year (and I know she got worse after I bailed on the season). Are the good moments worth all the venom and negativity? I never thought so. Ramona is a monster, but she at least has moments of humour and lightness. I still chuckle at Ramona and Sonja looking up the meaning of white trash. Would I miss Ramona? Not really, but even clueless Ramona is self-aware enough to know to give an apology even if there's no sincerity behind it. Dorinda never wanted to take responsibility for anything. She became unhinged around Tinsley; there was nothing entertaining about it. It was scary and it was all over nonsense. Even if Tinsley were guilty of everything Dorinda accused of, it still didn't matter. Who cares?? It was like annihilating someone for returning a library book two days late. 

I'm shocked how no mainstream media outlet has picked up the way Rinna has treated Garcelle especially now that the full context of the conversation has been revealed. Rinna was throwing a black woman to the wolves for publicity and it's offensive on so many levels.

I'm glad Dorinda got the boot/quit. I'm one of those who disliked her from the beginning. I have waited for audiences to turn on her, and I'm glad most people now see her for the mean-spirited lush who attacked Heather. I also find it amusing that it was her relentless hate of Tinsley that led to this. She thought she was so much better than Tinsley and the audience would love her attacks on Tinsley. She probably doubled-downed on her behavior at the reunion, and she knew it was not going to look good for her.  I've been hit and miss with watching RHONY this year, but could rhony survive without Ramona's antics (good or bad)? I know she's a terror in real life, but does she add something to the show? I think viewers crave consistency until it becomes too toxic. Is RHONY at toxic levels if Dorinda is gone?

Potomac: I am 100% behind Wendy. Most of the other women had to rearrange their lives/make arrangements so they could go on the trip. Ashley couldn't let Michael watch the baby?  I find it selfish to bring a baby on a girls' trip or a friends' weekend. Parents always want to make events about them in my experience. You want to have a baby that's your business, but don't make it mine. Leave the baby where it belongs, and if you don't want to, then stay home. 

Karen gets on my nerves with this uplift women stuff. What show does she think she's on? The Woman's Hour?

RHOBH is never going to have much of a chance as long as the coven is allowed to remain unbroken. That's why they had nothing besides this pile up on Denise. Months of footage was edited out for this???? Even though Sutton never showed her children, she was much more enjoyable and made much more of a mark on the show than Erika or Teddi. The Lisa/Garcelle thing is so disgusting. In a time of BLM and increased focus on how black women are treated, Bravo and Lisa Rinna do this??? I wish more people were calling them out for this f**kery.

1 hour ago, NothinButAttitude said:

@Cat, Joyce and Kyle are not friends. Joyce speaks out all the time how she found it heinous how the women treated LVP last season. I do wish that LVP would stayed on the show and brought Joyce back given they are extremely close. LVP has said numerous times that she should've listened to Joyce when Joyce tried warning her that Brandi, Yolanda, and Kyle were plotting to take her down.

Joyce was a good friend to LVP and it annoys me that Joyce and Carlton got the short end of the stick because of the ugliness of the LVP takedown attempt. They could have had long-term potential, and it would have been nice to have Carlton there since she loathed Kyle.

I felt like a rant today:

Rhobh: Brandi went on t.v. to have her father accuse her of being a hooker. I don't think there's a low that Brandi has met. This woman has children. Why is she allowing herself to be used by these women? Does she really think these women want her back on the show? They will spit her out into the trash heap when they're done with her. The money can't be that good either.  I think this has the fingerprints of Kim on it. I didn't watch last season but I'm told Denise put Kim in her place during a Rinna/Kim argument. Kim is the right kind of vindictive to plan this sort of thing. Plus, she wants back on the show as well. What also gets me is the people who still say LVP was the master manipulator. Really? The same b.s. is still going on but it's even worse. Kyle has been the puppet master since season one where she obviously said that to Camille (re: Bravo not wanting to film her without Kelsey) and she's been lying and manipulating ever since. Kyle took such delight in Camille's season one fall.

Adrienne is still blaming LVP for the surrogacy rumor. I  have no idea why LVP would do that, but even if she did, this is why I don't like Adrienne. She wants to rewrite what happened. She was using Bernie to get to LVP. Bernie was posting all these anti-LVP tirades. This was between taking photos of an allegedly abused Adrienne which she would post on Facebook to get back at Paul. Adrienne was always angry that LVP didn't choose her hotel. Adrienne was mad about the Maloof Hoof comment. In 2020, she thinks Brandi was manipulated by LVP. These women never take the thought all the way through. If Brandi is so malleable that she can be manipulated into saying these things outside her character, that means she has no moral compass and she is a liar. IT also means that she would be such a failure as a human being that she should not have custody of her children. The same goes for Rinna who plays the "I was manipulated" card.

I know the Munchausen gets brought up against LVP, but I think there was a lot more to the story. I believe David and Yolands's family talked to some of the women because they felt that Yolanda was faking. Yolanda admitted as much at one point (her family not believing her). Yolanda also became angry when she didn't get the spinoff she wanted. Joyce said some interesting things about Yolanda in her interview with Heather McDonald--for example, Yolanda wanted Joyce to badmouth LVP and would stop taping to get Joyce to do it. Speaking of Joyce, why is Bravo giving Brandi a platform after the racist way she treated Joyce??? 

19 minutes ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

I posted the changing hats on the previous page.

Oh my lord. I feel incredibly stupid. I have no defence.

I didn't watch RHOBH last night, but I read that the Amelia/Lisa scene was staged because Amelia's hat kept changing within the scene. Is that true? Did people who watched it notice this?