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OC - I've got to say, these new housewives are bringing it! Love them both in very different ways. LOVE it. Also, I'm enjoying the holidays during the OC - have we ever seen the different holidays like this before? I only remember Jersey that one season, otherwise I can't remember another city/season showing each holiday like this. I like it! Cheap - I had 5 Christmas trees up this past year. I love having a tree in every room!

Y'all - that was seriously the most amazing finale ever. I've never seen an hour of TV have so many shocking, surprising, twisted turn of events. I'm literally still trying to pick my jaw up off the floor! They threw everything in but the kitchen sink!!! Revenge stepped up their game!!!

Apollo better be careful.. his ass is going to get hurt or killed. He's treading some scary waters!

Well and Ramona was out for 2 episodes already when she went to Africa. That does seem odd. Usually when a housewife can't/doesn't go on a trip, they at least splice a quick scene or two of them back at home so we don't forget about them.

Just a few thoughts... Apollo is trash. He's dumber than a box of rocks and I have no idea how or why Phaedra puts up with him or defends him. She's ridiculous for that and loses credibility. I'm Team Kenya - girl totally makes sense to me. And I think Cynthia sees that now. Nene is completely rude and delusional in her hypocrisy. She's too dumb and runs her mouth too much to know how not to show herself over and over again. Porsha did well and Andy totally is going to let her come back. The Kenya/Porsha storyline will continue. They basically are using the props as their way out of this mess.

I don't know, I've been to plenty of pool parties in my life where beer is spilled on people in pools (or lakes) out of fun or playful fighting. Again, I didn't think it was malicious at all. Ramona is smart and knows this season needed to rise in the ratings, and they needed to create some good drama-filled scenes. So Kristen says she's jealous and Ramona (with a camera on her) just threw some wine on her while she's in a spa/pool. It was harmless. Kristen got her back by getting her hair wet...which btw everyone knew she spent time on making perfect for her Hamptons event later that night. You could see it in Ramona's eyes and demeanor that she deserved the splash back and didn't make it that huge of a deal (i.e. retaliate even more). I'll hold judgment on next episode until I see it... I can't tell from the previews if she throws an entire glass or not, and if Kristen really bleeds from Ramona's action or something else.

I'd say Luann's role is very much like Marysol's role in Miami S3... technically a friend of the housewives, but had just as much screentime as the actual housewives. I watched the NYC episode and I'm sort of on Ramona's side with the wine throwing. It was a friendly toss of wine on someone who was in a spa... it washes off and she playfully did it for the cameras... it wasn't malicious and it wasn't like they were at a cocktail party in dresses (i.e. Tamra). I didn't see how it was a big deal. Same with next week - looks like Kristen gets them wet and Ramona pours her drink on her again while she's in water. I'm curious to see if she throws the whole glass and makes her bleed (which is too much), or if she just throws the actual wine and Kristen gets hurt another way.

I disagree - Vicki and Tamra just want to have fun with Heather... yet all Heather has done this year is one-up them or prove to them how wrong they are... it's annoying and I see why Vicki and Tamra are getting irritated. Also, it wasn't Heather's place to talk to Eddie about children like that, when Tamra was crying and confiding in her.

Honestly, Nene seemed so fake to me during DWTS - at least during the live shows. She plastered on that fake smile the entire time... when Erin asked her anything, her responses were fake and rude. OC: I'm so in love with Shannon. I've never seen a new housewife be so totally natural and comfortable in front of cameras so quickly, while not giving two shits. She's also a drunken mess when she needs to be and I love it. I do fear that she'll have a rough Season 2, and I do see her relationship being the next Simon/Tamra. I'm over Heather... she does have some terrible stick up her ass this year. Even Terry is annoying me. I'm team Tamra/Vicki/Shannon right now! I'm loving this season already and there's only 4 housewives!!! Also, this season seems way more polished... similar to Miami, BH, and NYC. The production values went up, they bought better cameras, and the whole thing looks 'richer' to me than in the past.

Go 'head Kenya!!! Love that girl.

Did y'all see the article the other day about Theresa's case? Due to the timing, they may have to delay the NJ premiere date. Currently, Theresa wouldn't be able to do press events, interviews, etc. to generate buzz about the premiere...

^Ok, good point... she did try to remove herself from the situation and was followed. Makes sense. Yes!!! Shannon is perfect so far. I already can't wait for her second season just to see how she reacts to her first season - does she filter herself and strategize or not? I'm also looking forward to her WWHL appearance, assuming Andy has her on.

I finally caught up on my housewives last night... OC: I may be in the minority, but I'm really loving Shannon. She's a natural on camera and she's neurotic and ready to snap. Makes for great TV!!! And that poor husband of hers, who btw is quite attractive. I said it before, but Shannon really reminds me of Marysol in looks and somewhat personality. Vicki continues to be one of my favorites housewives ever... she is a total nut and perfect for this show. I love her antics. Heather and Terry both are starting annoy me. I see what Tamra and Vicki are talking about here... I couldn't stand it either. NYC: Team Heather! Love that bitch. And her husband! Aviva is nuts in a wonderful way. I loved her crazy commentary on what certain people ask after having babies. Her face was priceless. Ramona is always fun to watch - she's crazy. I worry about Sonja though... she's a mess.

Chris B --- Boy, you had me the entire time until the end... why do you think it was ok for Adriana to slap Joanna? Sorry, the quote function isn't working... but that was supposed to be a direct reply to your original post about fighting is not acceptable and you have to draw the line or pay the consequences, etc.

Does anyone else think Shannon looks a little bit like Marysol? The forehead and eyes... Lydia is pregnant, per Vicki on WWHL. Lisa is mixing it up with the Melbourne ladies... after all the Melbourne talk and now THIS, I might just have to watch: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2610871/Lisa-Vanderpump-calls-support-Real-Housewives-Of-Melbourne-star-Gina-Liano.html

LOL - I love Kenya. First, she's right with that statement. Second, once she busted out the Israeli combat training and taking someone down in 3 moves... I live for this girl. Again - Cynthia has a heart of gold.

Did we ever address why Nene forcefully covered Porsha's mouth when she was lying on the ground crying and screaming? What was Nene trying to cover up here?

First - poor Cynthia! She has a heart of gold and always looks SPOT on... and then she gets put in the middle of Kenya and Porsha's fight, and Porsha exposes her boobs! Kenya is a goddess and so much smarter than Porsha. Team Kenya!!! Nene looked like a bloated rhino on that couch - she was stank the entire time and I couldn't stand her face. She's not doing herself any favors.

OC got a new opening!!! They still have enough of the original elements in there, so I'm thrilled! Heather looks FIERCE in her shot. Really love it. Tamra's tagline is way too short though and it makes for awkward silence in her family montage...

Surprising turn of events? I wonder if Andy tells her she's no longer a housewife... ?

There are a ton of cameras at Taylor's wedding... is she on another show??

Taylor (BH) also got married... looks like she's totally moved on... http://t.entertainment.msn.com/taylor-armstrong-marries-john-bluher-all-the-wedding-details?toc=tv#image=1

NYC: I missed Ramona not being there for Luann's first scene - would love to see where those two are right now in their relationship. I love having Luann back - she's always been a favorite of mine. Amanda is trying way too hard. She looks like she belongs on NJ as another wannabe trying to create conflict. She even looks like that other NJ supporting character - the realtor. I really love this season of NYC so far - LOVE! Oh, and Heather's husband is hot as hell - a little short - but hot as hell. He may have replaced Mario for me as hottest househusband.

I agree with y'all - NYC is on fire! Love this season and all these ladies. I also can't wait for Luann - I've always had a thing for her.

NYC ratings went up this week... yay!!! REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NYC BRVO 9:00 PM 1437 0.6