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Thanks for this. I also had no idea Frost played Iva's father on ATWT. I would love to see that.

Since we're modernizing these threads, we might also point out that the 'link' button in the post field box is the chain-looking button right next to the GIF and spoiler tag/eye icons. All you have to do is plug in the website URL of whatever you are trying to post into the link button's URL field with some text as its title. For example: Brian Gaskill is Out You don't have to paste the entire messy URL into a post in 2024.

I think both this and what Wagger says can be true. And Wagger is correct: Whether Sonny intended it at the time or not, Stone laundered his image over the years. I do think Sonny loved Stone, as he said. I also think Sonny has dined out on Stone for decades.

Me neither. But yes, he did very well today. I definitely don't want him at the center of any potential takedown story either but I can accept him being here for the short term if the scripts stay good. Maurice seemed a bit thrown by how much emotion the other guy brought to it, so if history serves he should be complaining at fan events about the writing in a week or less! I am legit worried about Dante making it BTW lol, that's how much the show has grabbed me. Even Kober impressed me with his depth of emotion in the scenes with Laura the other day, and usually I have zero patience for Cyrus (Monday's scenes with Portia were cathartic).

It's only tedious to me if nothing material comes of it, which is generally the case with Sonny. If it was up to me Scorpio and Anna would've set up a long-term The Wire-style sting op to take down Sonny for good years ago when they both returned to town full time. They still could! But I ain't betting on it lol. I would settle for Sonny having to really reckon with his horrible life, and be primed for oh, let's say Brenda. And no, I still do not need Wagger here beyond this story.

Curtis is just one of many characters who needs to go. BK deserves better. I am pretty sure the latest BLQ/Tracy permutation re: Deception yesterday is a sudden whiplash rewrite on top of an existing double-cross but it's one I welcome. The bedding-in of that relationship and trying to make it closer and the intelligent discussion of Brook Lynn's future goals and ambitions and what Tracy wants her to have for herself was all very good for me.

I can buy it. Who knows how lonely a life Wagger has had since losing Karen and since his son moved out? This might be all he has going. But these scenes were pretty good and AH was quite good in them. He almost made me call him Jagger! I was especially glad he zeroed in on why Anna defends Sonny, which has always infuriated me given Anna's history on this show and the fact that it's transparently done because of the offscreen friendships and to try to keep putting Sonny over with longtime fans even though he has been on the show for over 30 years. And to her credit, Finola beautifully played that like he was absolutely right and Anna couldn't take it.

lol this just reminds me of the insane discourse about when they started piling every illness onto Stitch's son to write them off - seizures, incontinence...

That is a good idea. (And I do think they need to explore that history from Laura's life, but I worry if done soon it might come off too much like the Shiloh cult nonsense from a few years ago unless they really lean into modernizing it like online cults like Love Has Won, etc.) Yeah, there was no need for him to be her second long-lost brother on top of Martin. I assume Frank thought it would give JK more longevity. It hasn't! AH has had some decent dialogue in the last few tweaked eps but I see no need for him to be on the show.

Brian Gaskill is out here looking like Orson Welles in the Paul Masson ads.

Yeah, I have several large bridges to sell to anyone who thought Steve would not leave Days and return to GH at some point in the next 3-5 years.

I loved Jeff Kober in many TV shows and movies playing the go-to creep in the 80s and 90s, so I was pleased and impressed when GH hired him. But it has never worked. Cyrus has never come off menacing or compelling to me, just feeble and phlegmatic. I don't blame the actor, I blame the lame material and whatever direction they happen to get. He just wheedles on, croaks about his plans and occasionally tells that ludicrous story about how he accidentally on purpose ran over his and Laura's dad with the family car in the driveway. It's ridiculous and I feel nothing for this crotchety old mobster who now has a radio sideline as the Voice of the Night. I have never been intrigued. He should've been gone long ago. They should've played this imprisoned kingpin like a truly psycho, Manson type when he first came on - like some of Kober's classic roles - and instead he just mouths tired 'bad guy' schtick and mumbles about family and God. It was inevitable Steve would be back the day he left. I never had any faith that ABC would stick to principle with him. I am also resigned to it and just hoping better writing will make him more tolerable.

That's a shame. Did they say why she wasn't at the last wedding?

Scott and Amy sounds insane but def something they'd do back then. In other news, we've all talked up Crystal Carson as Julia before and how much we enjoyed her rolling with the changes in the show. These scenes with her after Brenda's 'death' in '98 (timestamped below) are really good work from Carson, I haven't seen them since they aired. I'd forgotten the montage of all the empty locations around town. Another neat little moment earlier on in this video at the Q mansion that's just for me: Evil Katherine silently and grimly snuffing out the candle on the cake after they hear the news about Brenda.

I'm just waiting to see who violates this first.

Fired, I believe. I think Robin's 'death' was Ron's first credited day, or close to it. They did tweak It on the way in though, because allegedly Wolf's team had planned to kill her for real (via AIDS, I believe) and supposedly FV's first order of business was to declare Robin Scorpio would not be killed off while he worked there.

Oh, I'm well aware. But after the last decade-plus since Frank and Ron flushed most of the old team anything smart on the daily show is like pearls in the desert lol.

You can definitely tell there have been changes and tweaks over the last several weeks of air shows. it varies from day to day and scene to scene, but it's there. I go by @Errol who I believe said from today on it's a mix of their work and the outgoing team, specifically with the Jason story being the new team's work. If I'm misquoting him I'm sure he'll check me.

Malone and Griffith also ghostwrote heavily in January of 2003 at OLTL before their names were on it. Guza did the same at GH in 1997.. It was very noticeable in both cases.

It's possible. But my working theory was she sent them to herself so she could appear endangered and endear herself to Sonny. "Why would she appear frightened when alone" is a good question, but also not one that has stopped a new writing team from eliding those small details from past episodes before re: a storyline already in progress. Fanwank it and say maybe she was rehearsing? This theory and issue aside, today's ep appears to already have some considerable surprises and structural moves I didn't expect.

Yes, that was always my assumption at the time. Pure boredom. I enjoy Ava immensely when she is being evil and true to who she is vs. when they try to redeem her or mold her into a romantic heroine, as they have done too often. She should not have half the friendly relationships she does on the show, minus Trina. And she's already been on the show a long time vs. most characters in her position. If going dark shortens her time on the show I've already established I don't mind at this point. She has been on for over a decade; I don't need her to stay forever, I need her to do well while here. Besides, Alex on OLTL, etc. ran for years without losing her edge and I think in that same mold Ava can still have some more good years. If I wanted to watch Carly Snyder I'd watch old eps of ATWT.

Not particularly, no. But it could be a useful plot point here in a new story. I do think a woman could have easily been wearing a man's boots or unisex boots. Further, Austin's shooting was written months ago by a departed writing team; the new team could always potentially not care what kind of footwear the shooter happened to be seen wearing. I don't necessarily think Ava pulled the trigger on Austin herself. But there is nothing in the murder episode that rules her out AFAIC.

Also, I just checked the episode where Austin is shot. There's no sign of Ava in it.

A poster on Primetimer reminds me that Ava got sent the notes/weapon/whatever after Austin's death. This endeared her to Sonny as a woman in obvious distress and had him move her in, close to him. This in turn leads to her being on the island with him in January, getting shot at by the assassin. Do we know where Ava was the night Austin died? She has killed for less.

Ava is not just some local art dealer or civilian. She came to town in 2013 as one of the heads of the Jerome crime family when it was still active; she was deeply enmeshed in it for years after. She did time over it. Her first major act in Port Charles was to murder Connie Falconeri in cold blood because Connie would've compromised her brother's cover identity as media magnate Derek Wells. Ava is as much a part of that life as anyone else at that meeting; she is a viper, which is why Wu was wise not to trust her presence even if Ava isn't suspect. I bring this old post up now because I am starting to think I’m right about Ava being involved is whatever is really going down here. There are two key shots in the last week or two that seem to tip the scales a bit for me; one had Ava inexplicably eavesdropping on Sonny and Wu at the penthouse after Wu ordered her out of the room. The other is the close-up on Ava's approving face at the meet this past Friday as Sonny assures Selina they can trust her. That's what they went to commercial on. These things are rarely done haphazardly in the edit, and the material with Sonny and Ava lately is pitched as intimate but not loving or sympathetic. I have begun to think Ava is playing Sonny again, just as she did in 2013-2014. Also, I will flash the @Khan signal: I'd be curious as to his take on the Maxie/Spinelli, Felicia, Tracy and Gregory, etc. material over the last week. Even the Wagger/Sonny and Wagger/Anna stuff felt smarter. The family cohesion stuff at Scout's party on Friday was especially different for me, weaving in all the family connections we don't often see, Drew and Alexis, Jason's two boys, Kristina and Blaze, etc. And I've said before that I think the Eva LaRue material with Kristina and Blaze was also tweaked.