Vee

The less the better!

Terry's stories were wild but like her sister, Bernard always seemed so spirited to me onscreen from what I've seen. What a shame.

Yeah, Steve vetoing Jason Q is a story older than dirt. It's not news. Do I wish he'd gotten his Q memories back long ago, of course. Doesn't mean Jason Morgan needs to go away but it would alter the character. The issue is Steve doesn't want to play anything complex. He wants to come in, wear the same outfit, shoot guns and go home. It's never going to happen. I do think BM's Jason/Drew was an evolution of a sort for the character. Miller's faux Jason played the relationships with the Quartermaines, Monica, Jake, etc. differently and tenderly, and that bled over into Drew. The show then tried to compensate when Steve returned by trying to reverse-engineer some of the same bonds with Steve's real Jason (especially with Jake) but they've never really managed to put it over. I think Drew as a character - a warmer, kinder man with both a background in action like Jason and a head for business and the Q-style intrigue - can and should work. The problem is they have zero investment in Drew with Jason around, as you say. And CM has done little to distinguish himself since shaving the gulag beard. He is basically playing a variation on himself or Ryan Lavery. Would I put Drew back on the shelf and await a charismatic actor for real investment if it was up to me? Sure. But that's in a paradigm where Jason would not be the priority of the two or Drew can get at least real consideration, and that paradigm does not exist IRL. The character has only ever existed as a Jason stand-in. It's too bad.

I'm thinking less about immediate polling (though CNN's after the SOTU was very good for Biden) and more about changing the conversation and thrust of the election, which it did, dramatically. The illegal thing didn't go far outside of random segments of Twitter, and Biden did walk it back.

IIRC she was meant to be a contemporary of teen Michael and Kristina in the late 2000s/early 2010s, but I may be off about that.

The SOTU fixed that.

My idea for a Ward return was always bringing back Justus from Witness Protection (either Joe Phillips who still looks pretty good or someone a bit younger, maybe to pair with Portia) to shore up both them and the Qs as a patriarch. Then I figured either Keesha as a social activist of some sort, maybe Maya or the oft-mentioned Zoe or someone entirely new. There's plenty you can do. I have no idea who could play her but people have mentioned some good names (Sherri Saum is not likely ever coming back to daytime though lol).

Big time.

I don't think Jason needs to be with anyone either. But if it had to happen I'd really screw with people and bring back Keesha.

Didn't you just ask us how the story was? LW does press because soap actors do press when stuff happens onscreen, lol. Carly shared scenes with Jason before he fled her home, but the story is not all about Jason and Carly. But this is all spun up on Twitter because couples stans get tight because they labored under a misconception that Jason would show up at Liz's door instead and then got mad. I don't care about either couple so it doesn't matter to me. Stan twitter is not an accurate depiction of anything, I care if a story is being executed well. I don't care if it has Carly or Liz in it.

That's not what's happening, but thanks random Liason fan on Twitter.

Believe it or not, that day camp exists canonically in the show thanks to Ron Carlivati and his various successors. I give you "LIla's Kids". Joss (staring dourly in the back) later went on to become a counselor there with Eden McCoy in the role. I believe they still mention it fairly often.

Tracey Ross, like most of the cast of PSSNS, was quite bad.

Again: Dump half of 'em in the river! I'm good!

I don't think there is much to say yet. So I wouldn't overhype them, is my point (not to you). But I do think you might as well start somewhere, and last week is as good as any. It's not like we saw much of them to begin with until now. I don't mind them using younger teens though, I'm used to it with Lucky and Robin and some of the OLTL youth in the '90s. I would argue they were all relevant even if they weren't in hot and heavy romance automatically.

Oh, there are way too many kids and at least half need to be off the show. I still can't believe Maxie has three when she didn't even need one. Donna and Avery should not exist, let alone Scout. Violet and Charlotte should be sent to the Shadow Realm. And it's not like the new boys are some amazing rising teen scene either lol. It's way too soon if the boys playing Danny or Rocco are any good, though I think they've shown a little promise. What I do like for now though is the new writing has taken pains to try to make their personalities a bit different and make them stand out. Even the afterschool special aspect with the vape plot point goes to some character building with the green new Danny and Jake getting to know the tiresome Michael Easton. So it's a nice start. But not some huge deal.

Carly has never stopped being obsessed with Jason, in fairness.

No, I agree. I've said that before; she made that clear choice onscreen in 2012, after he first 'died.' And it was a smart choice and I admired it. Her going back never made sense to me, not with her son or daughter. I agree she's over it and has been for many years (and probably should've stayed with Drew). I don't care about her relationship with Dante but I am glad she's evolved. I also think she should probably leave the show, but I have many other people I think should do that first lol. As for today, here are some long-winded crossposted thoughts. I have never bought T.J. Version IDK let alone Cyborg Jordan, and today is no exception. Tajh Bellow is a decent actor but it is too late for me to care about this character again. And Jordan, who I've never had much use for, cannot vanish fast enough for me with this terrible actress. Both of them can dip, along with Molly and Sasha and many others. Anything that writes this crew out works for me. My boy Jake's latest hairstyle needs work but at least he isn't rocking the Jason Morgan 'do anymore. I liked the brownstone set detail in the background across the street outside Liz's entryway, it at least makes you a bit more inclined to believe this set which bears almost no resemblance really is Thee Brownstone like they expect us to. Jake looks as enthused at Michael Easton appearing on the scene as I am at this point. But the scenes with that group were mature and nice enough at least. I love the various adults mixing it up with different kids and how they're carefully re-threading the family/friend relationships in ways this show just generally has not bothered with - Carly, Alexis and Liz with Danny, even Easton with Jake is all smart stuff other people wouldn't think of. They did the same at Scout's party with Alexis and Drew, Jason's boys with Kristina and Blaze and Willow, etc. As I said before they've already taken pains to start delineating Danny and Rocco as different personalities, which is huge and something this show almost never does anymore. The kid playing Danny is green but has some presence, he's not a walking nightmare like that twink who played Oscar. Hudson West is still the only younger player who comes anywhere close to Kimberly or JJ to me, but his material is not as strong as the other boys atm. Regardless there's no time like the present with this stuff, and it's intelligently done and adds community texture. And we've all discussed how nice it is to let Anna actually be smart. Kirsten Storms is having a good time being here for the first time in a long while, and for the first time in a long while I'm feeling the same watching her. The Spixie stuff is consistently fun to watch for me, which is a weird thing to say as someone who stopped being able to tolerate them around 2010. They are never going to convince me milquetoast Sasha is the Face of Deception, especially not when she keeps turning up in this 1996 minidress ensemble. Starting to think again this is tied into the WSB and/or government. That two-man team on the roof didn't seem like the mob, and why would Jason not just come in when Anna asked? The one thing I don't buy is Sonny turning on Jason this fast, not unless he's off his meds or still harboring resentment re: Jason/Carly 2021, or preferably both.

I mean I wasn't a fan of any of it because I hate Jason, but I will give it to Steve and KT, they had chemistry and it was a hot love scene lol. I do think Kelly Monaco has been working hard lately these last couple weeks, but I think Sam is as played out a character as Jason.

That was a crazy situation. I have discussed it at length on SON but I will say again: You know GH, so you know most of the time over the years it takes Jason a blood test, an 18-month waiting period and a counsel with God to get with a woman, and Steve prefers not to do big love scenes. You also probably know that Steve has had a veto on Jason and Carly since the late '90s, when he told the writers (including Patrick Mulcahey in those days) he no longer wanted them paired romantically. And untl 2021 or so Jason and Sam was the tiresome law of the land. But something went down BTS in a big way all of a sudden in Steve's last year. Kelly Monaco, who had been very vocal about not being into a reunion and preferring Sam stay with Billy Miller's Drew/NuJason after Steve first returned in '17, was checked out for a long time. And around the end of 2020 Jason and Sam suddenly and unceremoniously ended with very little fanfare after almost 20 years. Then over the course of the next 10-11 months Jason suddenly gets with not one but two new women. First Britt, who he has no long history with, gets a really explicit and passionate love scene from Steve which he generally doesn't do a lot of - I had not seen him turn it on like that since maybe the Liason ONS in 2006(?), if not earlier. Then they turn on a dime mid-summer and have Jason fall for Carly again during their 'fake marriage' to try to keep the mob together. (They chickened out on having Sonny, who'd just come back from the dead, walk in on Jason and Carly consummating their wedding night - they pulled back from both at the literal last minute; I think he enters the house right before they're about to do it, and then had Jason just sort of explain things to Sonny and they let bygones be bygones, then the whole plotline ended immediately and Jason went off to Greece to die in a cave lol.) It was crazy. I still don't know what all happened there, or where this will go now.

As Britt's #1 hater since 2012 I am here to tell you she is dead as shît. "The Hook" (Heather Webber, though that seems like a hasty rewrite) got her on New Year's Day(?) 2023 when Britt threw down with her to save Joss on the docks. Britt survived that fight but got hit with Heather's poisoned hook and later died in Obrecht's arms, but not before the show threw an insane onscreen super-gay farewell party for her over NYE because I think Britt was already planning on leaving town. I know she had her fans but I'm sorry, they threw that big a party for Britt?! Anyway, I believe it may have been KT's request so she couldn't be tempted to come back. She was notably pissed to be left holding the bag when Steve quit/was fired and she couldn't do the Jason/Britt story.

She has my attention for the first time in years, and also looks better. The scenes (and script) with her, Spin and Felicia have been genuinely good since at least the last week of February.

We've been talking about this in this thread and the last for awhile. I've had my suspicions about Ava being behind all this for a minute. My take still is that it's cat and mouse: Ava didn't know Jason had infiltrated whatever this outfit is, and Jason may not know Ava is involved.