Everything posted by Vee
- GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
- GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
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One Life to Live Tribute Thread
I remember this page well. Ellen Holly wrote a wonderful book, but she took what Erika said totally out of context here - Erika was critiquing the state of the show at that time. When asked about it years later, Erika began her explanation in her newsletter with the immortal opener "yes, that's bullshít." She explained that she'd taken issue with how white the show had become at the time, and added that she'd loved Holly's work on the show. I give Holly a lot of credit and credence to a lot of what she had to say, but she was wrong on this passage. And I honestly think she was speaking facetiously (and angrily) in what you refer to in the oral history.
- GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
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ALL: General Retro Soap Discussion
Yes, that's why my post explicitly said above that there were no successful revivals or reboots. And despite that it has remained in the public consciousness popular in syndication and streaming, unlike what has become of GL. And that's at least partly because it was so seat of your pants production-wise.
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
- GH: Classic Thread
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BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
I think what Guza brings first and foremost is adrenaline, and a sense of what events/sweeps months need. This show will need someone like that to amp it up out of the starting gate in a very difficult climate, and while competing for the loyal GH audience. For all his sins I won't lie and say I didn't wish he'd been somehow on hand in GH's recent somnambulant years, and I'm not the only one. He also can do very incisive character work - when he chooses to, and when it isn't lazy or misogynistic. MVJ had a front row seat for the Guza years at GH, and knows what became of the Black canvas there. Yet she's remained close to him personally and professionally, and has often said online that he wasn't responsible for various unpopular choices in those years. Whether that's true or not, who knows. I think he was long past his best by the time he was fired and it was past time, but I do think he has real talent that can be brought to bear on BTG. We'll see what he has to offer today, and if her faith in him can prove out.
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The Politics Thread
After Chris Murphy and others began staging a sit-in, DOJ appears to have backed down on allowing Musk and his child soldiers unfettered access to the Treasury. This kind of relentless pressure is what it will take.
- GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
- GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
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ALL: General Retro Soap Discussion
Dark Shadows has lasted over 50 years in syndication and on streaming despite no successful revivals or reboots, and despite (and perhaps somewhat because of) its wonky budget, FX and onscreen production foibles. Any fan of the show (including several of us here) knows its issues very well. As DRW points out, Peapack GL cannot say the same. It's because they couldn't put story or characters across the same way. Though I do think a better GL deserves a shot on the air today.
- GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
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The Media/Journalism Thread
What a shame.
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Discussion Thread
Isn't Sarah doing the Dexter prequel show? I doubt she is hurting for money or needs to do this. Nor do I think a sequel/remake series really needs to exist. I can understand keeping Joss out of it after all the trauma, but without at least some of that past creative team it's going to feel very strange. The tone and language of BTVS/Angel was very specific. Very strange for Chloe Zhao to go from winning Best Picture a few years back to the Eternals flop and now well, this.
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
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GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
That's why they didn't do it with Jason (and hesitated to re-pair her with Lucky), and why they won't ever do it with Jason. That perception of her character, and their preference for other leading ladies. Though the only time I was ever behind Liason (and I've said this before, too much) is in the mid-2000s - when she was a working mother who had left all that behind her, was married to a good man, living a domestic life and then suddenly got involved again with the guy who got away. That to me was very real and gripping, so of course they let it slip away. They're deeply uncomfortable with Becky Herbst and Liz being a foundational lead for the show in the same way Jackie Zeman and Bobbie was, but that's who she is and she's very good at it IMO. So if she finally gets her place there with Jonathan's Lucky, I'll be glad. Even if they're not getting half the airtime they should. And I definitely thought of Martha Byrne for Carolyn as a major choice at one point - her past work on GH IMO proved she'd be very good. But she is potentially too young, again already played Andrea Floyd in the late 2000s (not that anyone would care) and finally, has unfortunately gone full MAGA.
- GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
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GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
I doubt it happens again. Being pushed back twice is enough. Plus JJ is back and seems very eager to be reunited with her onscreen, and IMO most of the audience is taking to it. I just wish she was given the story weight she deserved, because Khan is right - her life story is a lot of people's life stories. Adult Elizabeth has always interested me much more than the teen girl. And it was nice that they had Lucky pointedly say the other day he doesn't viewer her as an angel or teen damsel anymore, a repudiation of some of the writing in his last contract stint. There's a weary maturity there for them.
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GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
Eeesh. Interesting, but I dunno! For reasons neither of us need to remind each other of. I once thought of MTS for the part, but she would never leave Y&R and people rightly reminded me no one would ever buy her as a surgeon. And I definitely thought of Martha Byrne, but she is potentially too young, already played Mayor Floyd in the late 2000s (not that anyone would care) and finally, has unfortunately gone full MAGA.
- GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
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GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
I think Lucky absolutely was, particularly when Jonathan returned. Liz was always part of the package, though she did have moments of being more with Jason. And I think the show's disinterest in her (and discomfort with her being paired with their 'star', as JJ wanted that pairing in 2009-2011 and didn't really get it) was and perhaps remains an issue. But I think she's been consistently underrated since she grew into adulthood and motherhood onscreen. She almost didn't, as we know in 2011.
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GH: February 2025 Discussion Thread
Oh, that's a great idea. I did go with Newman because I think he has a fierce intellect onscreen and is too often underrated. I would've been into Richard Burgi too but he unfortunately played Paul Hornsby in the '10s (not that anyone would care in the era of Howarth and Easton's triple-dipping). Still, the mother (Carolyn) would be the heavy.