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Ah, something to look forward to at least! I was randomly browsing YouTube the other day and there was a scene from the porn addiction story where Lily was grilling Daniel on why his email address was Studguy or something and he was like "oh it's from high school I just never changed it" and she was grilling him on how that can't be since his email is always logged in and she's never seen it. Like it was bad but more entertaining than now!

GH - Plot-oriented but different genres depending on the time period: could be medical, action-adventure, or mafia stuff. When SoapNet had that GH 50th marathon, I almost instinctively knew what big moments they would feature, even though I didn't watch much of it over the years and had only just begun viewing regularly. Y&R - Old Hollywood, more like a novel come to life with rich subtext. For Y&R I don't think it terms of big moments (though there are many great ones) but characters and arcs that flowed naturally into the next, over decades. B&B - More like a primetime Aaron Spelling kind of show in its heydey. Sometimes deliberately trashy. ATWT - Homespun, middle class oriented. Snyder and Hughes family come to mind. GL - Kind of like ATWT but different. Can't quite put my finger on why. GL was more romantic and heartfelt. I liked it more than ATWT.

According to usenet, 4th of July aired on July 12.

1/2. Katherine/Victor - Hard to choose. These are the best male and female actors on the show, IMO, who drove story for 40 years and have played all angles from pure evil to total vulnerability. I can't imagine the show without either. Kay was involved in so many groundbreaking scenes from her alcoholism to lesbianism to her plastic surgery. Victor is largely responsible for reshaping the show into a corporate-oriented storyline by getting Newman Enterprises involved with Chancellor, Prentiss Industries, Mergeron, and Jabot. 3. Jill - She is of course the only link to the original series. She was the only one of the Foster or Brooks children to survive, despite being recast (Lorie Brooks is not on my list because as big as she was until 1982, she had no long lasting impact). The original premise of the show was a class struggle and Jill is the character that we followed from working class all the way up to being rich. She went from an ingenue to a villainess and settled in between. Plus, Jess Walton is the best recast the show has ever done. 4. Nikki - A very unique ingenue for soaps. Most of the women in supercouples were heroines, not strippers. She was involved in some of the more interesting plots from the late 70s/early 80s (killing her father, the cult) and then of course huge in the 80s and 90s. Certainly the face of the show for many viewers. 5. Drucilla - One of the most captivating and memorable characters in Y&R history. Like Jill we were able to follow her storyline from a troubled background to the Genoa City elite. She rates highly for me because like Jeanne Cooper, so much of her character came from Victoria Rowell, like her dancing. This is an unrecastable character. People are still beggining for her to return 15+ years later. And she still has impact today, for example by asking the writers to do the foster care/adoption story with Devon, who is still a big part of the canvas. 6. Jack - A great foil for Victor and he was the character that cemented the Abbott family. Not in my top 5 because things just weren't the same after Terry Lester left and he became less snarky and more of a romantic hero. 7. Paul - Another character that goes back to the 70s and really grew up on the show. Y&R tended to keep storylines grouped separately, but by virtue of being a PI, he had involvements with almost everyone. He was also the show's version of the 80s action hero prototype. He could easily have a place today as the wise older cop. 8. Christine - Such a huge part of the show in the 80s and 90s, including pretty important topics like the date rape and sexual harassment stories. Like Paul, she was involved with a lot of different sets of characters. 9. Ashley - Another 80s icon, like a corporate Barbie but she had a brain. I think Traci is the more interesting sister, but Ashley has been more present over the years, and her huge romance with Victor spanned decades (in some ways I prefer them to Victor and Nikki). 10. Michael - A representation of GC's great villains, he's the only one that stuck around long-term. His early work was just electric. I like that they managed to keep him on the show without resorting to him being presumed dead or just ignoring his crimes. He simply went to jail and came back years later, which almost never happens on soaps. A lot of effort went into his rehabilitation story, but he also kept his edge. I didn't agree with the show making him and Christine an item, but they were able to salvage it by getting him with Lauren and showing some humanity. Honoroble mentions: Traci, John, Neil, Sheila, Lauren, Devon, Cassie, Nick, Sharon, Victoria, Danny

I forgot that one too!

Maternity reveals in general are not good because you have to buy that a woman forgot she had a child. It only works if the audience knows she gave up a child. Nina being Ronan's mother on Y&R worked for me as a culmination of 25 years of story that originally played out on screen. We felt Nina's pain for years she she searched for and thought about the child. I went back and watched the clips from 1986 and they even got details right like the names of his adoptive parents. Cassie being Sharon's daughter was also good, since we knew she had given up a child and we knew that the child Grace brought to town was Sharon's. We were only waiting for the satisfaction of Sharon finding out. But the Mariah storyline was dumb, because Sharon somehow never realized she had twins and somehow the twin got sold to a cult that just happened to be the one led by the retcon cult leader who slept with Nikki (even though in the original story the cult leader was a woman who slept with Paul...).

To add to this, Caroline wasn't just drunk, she had also taken pills and was almost blacking out. Definitely rape https://www.soapcentral.com/bold-and-beautiful/recaps/2015/150831.php (Caroline's vision was affected by the pills and wine, and she lay down on the bed as her vision blurred. She started to drift off to sleep. She had trouble seeing Thomas. He told her she was beautiful and talented. Caroline mumbled that he was sweet, and he kissed her. They kissed more.) The secret that Thomas was keeping from Hope was that he knew that baby Beth was alive, which Douglas eventually revealed. Thomas was also gaslighting/mentally abusing Douglas to draw him closer to Hope (for example, making him think there were ghosts so he would cry for his mother) and telling him Hope would be his mommy, to guilt Hope into staying with him. It worked too well, as Hope and Douglas formed an actual mother and child bond. He also offered to sign over custody of Douglas if Hope would have sex with him. Thomas also ran Justin's niece Emma off the road in order to keep the secret about Beth. I hate Bill, but he didn't rape Steffy. She was upset that Liam kissed Sally (even though she has cheated and gone after attached men a million times) but it was consensual. This is the recap but it's too much to quote: https://www.soapcentral.com/bold-and-beautiful/recaps/2017/171113.php She did the "shocked" thing when she woke up, but she slept with him after he showered her with compliments all night and she wasn't incapacitated. The fun twist in the Steffy/Bill story was that when she did the paternity test, it wasn't his child, and then she stupidly left the test papers out. Liam saw it and divorced her ass even though the kid was his. Refreshing. (LOL, I don't remember this scene: "Liam had a knock-down, drag-out fight with Bill that ended in Liam wiping blood on Bill's face and Bill crying alone on the floor." https://www.soapcentral.com/bold-and-beautiful/recaps/2018/)

Maybe. They did one for B&B's 30th.

I spoke to @ChickenNuggetz92he is aware there's an issue with both vaults and is working on it. For now it seems we can download but not upload anything.

June 5, 1984 and seen in clips (53a)

These Douglas scenes will probably be the best acting of the year. I love that freaking kid.

Thanks! I did not even realize that because the original is the correct length. Why do they do that? It's so unprofessional. The videoland versions seems to be intact, so it's not like they don't have this episode.

He signed it over to her, lol.

A German episode was uploaded with missing scenes from the official YouTube's Episode 390 (see description)... anyone know what this is about? Why would there be deleted scenes from the official episode? Music? Is the Videoland version full?

Thanks @janea4oldfor finding the full interview. I always enjoy listening to VR's interviews.

50th anniversary of the founding of the Bayou, Nikki will strip again.

Someone uploaded new clips of Kay and Marge storyline from 1990. If you're reading here, thank you 😊

LOL! Right. 😅

Sometimes the constant crying and whining makes me wonder if I even would want her back as Victoria (and I say that as no fan of Amelia Heinle). Katie is such a drip. I can't believe she said she left Y&R so she could play a "strong character."

I got a VHS tape about a month ago with Victor & Nikki edits from 1984. I finally finished uploading all the clips that weren't already available in better quality. They are from April - June 1984 and include some scenes we didn't have, like Nikki getting Victor to open up about the orphange and how he got the name Victor Newman! They're in the clips section of the vault.

Catching up on last week when Chelsea explains that her therapist advised against the suicide podcast. That's fine by me. I think it was a terrible idea. I'm just laughing that this show has gotten so boring, now they don't even show them recording podcasts anymore (again, not that I want to see that), they just talk about recording podcasts. It also occurred to me that Traci attempted suicide in 1984 and they did highlight that during the COVID episodes so production should be vaguely aware of it. It would have been very powerful to have Billy confide in Traci about Chelsea's situation, then be surprised to learn his own aunt had gone through a similar situation, and then Traci and Chelsea could have shared scenes. That could have happened organically.

She looks really good there!

Sorry, my bad ❤️

Oh lol I thought you meant like Jim Storm was controversial somehow so Alan didn't want to ask. 😅

Why would Jim Storm be an issue?