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I am enticed by it as an intro for Eden. CC's focus is always on Kelly or Channing. I would have been thrilled if Eden's longing for CC's attention was more of a motivation for that character. Although IRL I'm sure they just hadn't cast Eden when the promo was shot, this would have been an excellent jumping off point for an Eden who may have been more of an understanding ally to Mason, or at least more conflicted about her relationship with CC. I feel like Sofia touches on these issues in the first year when CC is on life support but it didn't remain an issue for Eden. It is as if latter on when she keeps getting kidnapped and victimized, the writers forgot that Eden was the one who jumped out of a plane as her entrance into town.

I can't recall when Tiffany went from calling him Scorpio to calling him Robert, but I can recall her drawl when calling for him. I searched the actress who played Prunella the other day when the topic first appeared. She was in Number 96 which is one of the first Aussie soaps. Her character was the pantyhose killer. Perhaps Aussie actors didn't complain to producers about things like stories being preposterous?

There's an inherent "fourth wall" problem with Potomac. Given that all of the women tape their interviews in front of a green screen, Karen could live on Mars and the background of her confessionals would stay the same. The BH lost footage episode this season confirmed what I have suspected for a long time; all interviews are now filmed in studio with a green screen shot of their homes. Remember when Kyle shows up to do LVP's makeup touch-up and then later in the episode LVP pops into Kyle's interview? They weren't at each other homes. They were scheduled after each other to film interviews in the production studio. That is why the time of day behind them never changes in the interviews. It is also why the women look a little weird they wear reflective makeup because it messes with green screen. Finally, if you look closely you'll notice that all of the ladies in every city sit on the same chair to be interviewed. If Karen was being filmed in her own home for interviews then production would know where she lives. Thus, the Potomac women are left debating an issue that could be easily solved just by asking a producer. This creates a fourth wall issue which is always frustrating as a viewer because they cannot address it directly.

@Soapsuds @KhanWhat happened to the actual store once Barbara started designing? Did Lisa buy it originally after her bookshop?

Please help me to remember the provenance of the fashion boutique of Oakdale. My memory is that Lisa owned the store, then she partnered with Barbara, then Barbara took it over, then Barbara started her own line with Hank as the designer, then the focus switched from the store to the clothes business and eventually Carly designed for the company. BUT What was the name of Barbara's store and the clothing company? Were they both called Fashions (like AMC's eponymous Boutique)? Wasn't there also a Simply Barbara line of clothes? What happened to the original store? How did Lisa get it and why did she sell it? Wasn't Daryl Crawford or Brock Lombard somehow involved with the fashion company? Was Barbara still in the fashion biz at the end?

At what point did they stop referring to Tristan Roger's character as Scorpio and started calling him Robert? Was it Holly or Anna who first called him Robert? Or was it Mac, in order to facilitate the differentiation of the Scorpio brothers? Bonus points if anyone can answer my other question about what happened between Tristan and the actress that played Prunella? Extra bonus points if anyone can tell me why Kevin doesn't live in the lighthouse he bought from Bill Eckart on Port Charles (besides the obvious that the set was destroyed years ago, I mean have they addressed it in the story)?

I think the issue with all the Kevin and Joey's is that (1) there was never an established narrative to differentiate the boy's personality. (2) Neither son had a specialization that was vital to the plot. And (3) Kevin was burdened with a family too early in his story so he seemed like a deadbeat when he was romancing women and neglecting Duke. They were also poorly transitioned from Bo and Clint. The Buch Bros dominated stories as leading men and when it was their turn to become older statesmen, Kevin or Joey were obvious leading man material. However, Clint "went off to the London office" once too often and, Bo was de-aged to be so close to Kevin that both guys dated Cassie. As a result, neither boy had any conflict or special relationship with the prior generation; like Bo and Rex would share in latter years. Joey needed to a male version of Kelly; a spoiled irresponsible playboy. While Kevin should have developed an antagonism toward Clint for trying to adopt him and erase the memory of his father; as well as all how Clint cheated on Vicky. Kevin should have stayed a journalist, like his father Joe, and always threatening to expose Buchanan family secrets (sort of like Todd and The Sun). Vicky could have been constantly torn between her devotion toward her two sons. Instead, Vicky's daughters got much more airtime and they became better defined than her sons. In fact, the final decade contains a bunch of Kevin and Joey stand-in characters who were mentored by Vicky, Bo, or Clint when they should have maintained a focus on those two.

Mary Vernon, Katrina and Brad's baby that was switched for Jenny Wolek's baby, would have been the perfect kid to SORAS and return to exact her revenge on those that had caused her to have attachment issues. First ,with her mother and, then in her relationships; except by the time Mary grew up everyone involved had left Llandview and there had been numerous baby switches since her birth. A Mary Vernon/Steve Grande-McGillis/CJ Roberts triangle is my fanfic dream; imagine an all switched-at-brith triangle.

Dylan Fergus played an adult/hunky Tim in 2002; he was only on for a month

In 1991 there is a sudden shift in many of the stories that summer including the sudden departures of Stephanie Hesser and the Medina family (Gabrielle's mother and sister who never fit with her origin story; but I digress). Does anyone recall the backstage changes that lead to this sudden shift?

At point did they go from preempting a soap for live news coverage to rescheduling the episode for late night? For example, in Los Angeles during the OJ trial and beyond the soaps would be shown at 2am rather than actually skipping a day. I understand that there are always planned preemptions from holidays and sports but at some point the networks seemed to have decided to reschedule rather than preempt for live news coverage; at least on the west coast.

I'm re-reading early '80 OLTL history from the anniversary book (got it for $1 on Amazon). I never realized that Larry Wolek was a real "Perils of Pauline" character during that period. From 1981 -1984 he was kidnapped every summer (and held mostly shirtless) in various jungles and basements. Ivan Kipling and Rachel Wilson (his obsessed former client) tortured him and tied him down every time the temperature turned warm in LLandview.

Jody mentions her father and brother died fighting the mob and that is her motivation to free the Republic of Eden.

Agreed but, there is still great dialogue and characters. While Jody, Nicole and Miles are cavorting in a cardboard castle, there is tons of humor and mystery. Mitzi has a cold and is fending off Gunther, Raven calls Geraldine while being held hostage and Geraldine assumes she's calling for money while Calvin and Gavin are trying to use a landline to get in touch with their loved ones. Also, it fills in Jody's backstory and we learn if we'll meet other members of her family (spoiler alert: we won't) and it is mob related which is very much in tune with EON's history. I think if they had just called it Sicily rather than Eden it would have seemed less silly. All of the bad guys were obviously Italian so to make up a phony foreign land does not give the plot any credence.

I'm watching the Eden story finale that has been recently uploaded. I know the whole thing is ridiculous but, why was the Republic of Eden having their Tricentennial Celebration in upstate New York? It is such an odd detail that they repeat in two different scenes. As an audience, we knew that they weren't in Paris or St. Moritz. So why not go to Eden? That being said, I would watch any scene with Geraldine, Raven, Mitzi, or Jodi. Geraldine is especially great in these episodes. Her TV station has a liberal leave policy as both Jodi and Nicole need time off from their live daily shows to go to the Eden party. She never moves, she is nice to everyone, and she is super cool about telling Jodi to go have fun at a summer party while she still young but to be careful.

I enjoyed the pairing of Stefan and Bobbi. There was a moment when as an audience we were unaware of Bobbi's motives. Was she going to betray Luke or Stefan? I barely recall scenes where Luke was actually spying on Stefan and Bobbi with a telescope and it was really thrilling. Looking back now, one of the anachronisms that is amusing is that everyone runs around town wearing blazers. Bobbi is off work as a nurse, she goes to seduce Stefan so, she throws on a suit jacket? Even the teens are constantly wearing blazers as if a board meetings could be called at any minute.

Myrna's bathroom with the sunken tub, telephone, and turban closet were iconic.

Did you ever notice that a signature of the Conboy producing style is a tracking shot through an archway into a rich family's cream and beige living room? It is as if the audience is eve dropping on the action. I know he was neither a set decorator nor a director but, there were definitely similarities across his shows. Looking at the daily opening scenes of Capitol and SB, the Clegg's and the Capwell's both had the same shot.

point taken - I went back, read the synopsis and, my recall was in error, I tried to erase the post but I can't. I also didn't recall that Clay was one of the victims. That being said...it is still my favorite soap serial killer story, along with Port Charles first serial killer plot, because the pace and number of victims was addicting to watch.

It's interesting to hypothesize about who would leak this info. From the OLTL perspective, they are trying to hype the recast and explain Ilene's departure. From Ilene's perspective, knowing she was never right for that part, she could be using the leak to help negotiate her next contract. However, the weight issue does both sources a disservice. I loved when the soap press was this vicious. It seems like historically soap coverage has always been both cattier than the rest of celebrity press as well as more honest about issues involving drugs, alcohol, and other darker aspects of the actors.

In the soap openings discussion someone mentioned the theme during the "Loving Murders". I'm sure others have noted the plot holes in the denouement of the story. However, my nitpik is with the actual promo. For weeks the promo suggested that the "click" would proceed every murder. However, in the end the "click" was just a locket? That locket held no clue to the murderer, we never saw Gwyneth wear it. It is entirely possible to commit each of the murders without the use of a locket. We're not even sure who gave her the locket. It was a complete red herring but, the whole publicity campaign was based on this one plot device.

Does anyone recall Ilene Kristen's role as Georgina the Geologist in the early 80's? She came to town with nu-Tony Lord to mine solariam(sp?) under Asa's house. She had a quick affair with Bo and then left town. Someone recently referenced the storyline but I've never seen clips from this period. I'm wondering how different the character was from RH's Delia? When she was on AW she played a very snobby character that was years away from Delia. Also, did anyone ever reference Georgina when Ilene came back to OLTL as Roxy?

Me too but, I was reading a tumblr SOD recap from 11/89 and Clint wants to move to Buchanan City in Arizona with Viki and the boys to get away from the stress of living in LLandview. I hate it on soaps when rich women are expected to sideline their familial wealth to be loved by the men in their lives. I was just reading a AW recap where Brian asked Iris to give up being an heir to Mac's wealth. Why did these losers want their wives to be dependent on them for financial support in order to humble them? Why would Victoria Lord give up LLandfair, her paper, and running water to go live with Clint? My advice to any soap heiress would be to hold on to what is your's, you never know when your parents will locate a long lost child and then you'll have to share the wealth.

I forgot one other source of Asa's wealth were his land holdings in Buchanan City and the island (I think it was called Blaze?). Did the Buchanan's own Buchanan City or was it just named after them? Also, what was the name of the island where Pamela lived?

That promo reminded me of the promise of RH vs. the reality. I would have loved a show about Pat, Siobhan, and Frank. The Kennedy-esque undertones, the odd differences in expectations from their parents, and their struggles with maintaining their Catholicism during the sexual revolution. However, RH was always more focused on Jill, Delia, and Joe and their stories rather than the Ryan's family issues. In the beginning there was focus on why Delia wanted to join the Ryan family, but that was never contrasted with what motivated Jill and Joe to be part of the Ryan's. Also, they always made joining the family a bonus but, I can't remember anyone who felt that Maeve and Johnny were overbearing or too involved. I always wish soaps included more insight to motivate character growth but RH is great example of a soap that started with a lot more discussions of internal motivations and then left that behind once the Labine's left the show.