BetterForgotten

Ron is not going to listen to ideas from other people though. You know he always writes with the mindset that he's 100% right all the time.

Tiffani and Jennie were close for a number of years after the original show ended, it seems they only fell out during the last couple of years. It’s a shame as Val is the only character that was allowed to call Kelly out on her hypocritical bullish!t and get away with it. Tiffani was also friends with Jeannie’s ex-husband. I wonder if they fell out because Jennie perceived Tiffani to be more supportive of her ex-husband than her during their divorce. I think the poster was referring to Jeannie’s divorce as Tiffani is still married and had never been divorced.

I think this will be lucky to have a full season, to be honest...

Imma need some Tiffani Amber Thiessen/Val sprinkled in. Didn't she and Jennie Garth have a real-life falling out a few years ago? They should use that!

The show won the BAFTA yesterday, John Yorke accepted.

Deeper & Deeper, some of the more house-oriented remixes for Fever, Ray of Light, Human Nature, Vogue? Just throwing out uptempo-ish songs, because she's never really sung about going to the beach or taking a dip in the pool, lol. The rejected Bedtime Stories track 'Your Honesty" has a cool 90's vibe, if you want to add something more obscure. She became more of an albums artist in the 90's, so it's a strange decade to pick from (though artistically her most diverse and probably best).

Another new song:

Has DAYS completely done away with rehearsal given the abhorrent production schedule? I know the actors at Y&R, B&B, and GH still talk about having some sort of rehearsal time, but maybe not to the extend of the 'good old days.'

I also think he may have stayed too long at that point and may have been burnt out. I guess he violated one of his own "rules." As much as consistency is important on a long-running soap, so is change IMO. The issue is no one at P&G was doing any long-term planning and or had any consideration what would become of ATWT when Marland was no longer there - whether it be health related or if he simply left on his own accord. Marland also had such a unique style, so it was always going to be impossible to emulate him, but talent is out there, and no one in in daytime is interested in cultivating it and haven't been for years.

And Genie still holds that Ceara is the best soap role she's ever played, but it seems that character became a muddled mess pretty early on as well. Genie said Agnes was pretty involved in Ceara's creation, so I have to wonder if this character ever turned out the way Genie/Agnes anticipated.

The fact that there hasn't been a truly brilliant/new HW in daytime since arguably Nancy Curlee at GL, who left the business over 25 years ago, says a lot about this genre...

I think even towards the last year or two of Marland's stint, things were slowly deteriorating. It just got expedited when he left us as no one knew how to tell a damn coherent story. A series of really unusual blunders were made by people who didn't understand the show. All of the P&G soaps were experiencing a rough patch during this time, and hiring people like MADD to oversee them didn't end up being the most intelligent decision. I think Ed Trach's retirement at P&G marked an end of an era for those soaps - they just weren't managed effectively after he left. Granted, I do think he favored ATWT/GL over AW, but that may have been because P&G had a stronger relationship with CBS than NBC.

She also accused DAYS of only being interested in her “celebrity” and nothing else. I believe it was Shelley Curtis who convinced Genie to take the role (as they worked on GH together). They would work together again when Genie returned to GH in 1993.

Though it broke the record for highest jump on the Hot 100 (#100 last week to #2 this week), it was blocked from the #1 spot by Lil Nas X's 'Old Town Road' which tops the Hot 100 for a fifth consecutive week and is breaking streaming records.

I see Wendy Riche posted this pic of her with Shelley Curtis Litvack, Julian Hanan Carruthers, and Francesca James back in February.

Hogan's first year or so - I get it it, it was something different and the show had more energy than it had for a while. It wasn't classic ATWT though. I think the wheels quickly fell off after that first year (before Jean came along) and it was just one big muddled mess held together by some decent actors and scriptwriters. Hogan's always been offensive and lazy trash, in the Bob Guza mold.

Genie of course ended up hating her time and character on DAYS, but the shade at GH in this print ad is hilarious looking back...

Slightly off topic, but this had to be the worst MET Gala ever - the theme was ‘camp’ but people seem to forget that camp happens naturally and often by accident when someone is trying to be taken seriously. What an awful concept for something like this.

Outside of popular supercouples, does anyone feel like DAYS was overlooked in the 80's? GH got all the credit and the ratings for pioneering the action/adventure stories, and Santa Barbra got all the awards for essentially piggybacking off the GH/DAYS formula with its own satirical twist and witty dialogue (and music montages).

It some ways, the Dobsons style seemed like the perfect mix of Bell and Nixon's - they could do dark and psychosexual stories like Bell, but they also excelled at comedic and community-centered storylines like Nixon. I forgot about this, but Sara A. Bibel talked about meeting Bridget and Jerry on the Y&R set in the interview she did with Toups a few years back: The Dobsons. “Santa Barbara” was a huge influence on me as a writer. It was such a witty, original show that trusted its audience was intelligent enough to handle sophisticated dialogue and satire. It also was incredibly romantic, creating supercouples that fans still remember. I had the privilege of meeting them one day when they visited “Y&R.” They were smart but incredibly down to earth. It’s a memory I’ll always cherish.

Mary-Ellis Bunim became SB's first longterm EP (outside of Bridget and Jerry themselves), and she met the Dobson's at ATWT (during the second of their two stints there). Talk about a group of eccentric people... To me, it sounds like Bumin was the JFP of her time and obviously she later co-created The Real World and was a pioneer in reality television.

It seems they did at least keep up with the industry for a few years, even after retiring to Georgia. I remember hearing Bridget and Jerry visited the Y&R set shortly after Bill had died (when Jack Smith was HW/EP) and meeting with Lee Phillip Bell. It was just a casual visit, but nice to hear as they had been out of the industry for a decade by then.

Alden had an unhealthy obsession with Victor, and that's plagued the show ever since. While you can argue Bell may have had a similar obsession, all roads didn't lead back to Victor during his tenure. With Alden, it often felt that way.

But at least they couldn't lock her out of the Emmy's! Speaking of the Dobson's, did anyone know Jerry published his first novel last year? I stumbled upon this article/interview with him from last June

How would one describe Bridget and Jerry's stint at GH? Obviously, it got the attention of P&G, but I've not heard a ton about how it was received. Clearly, it seems, they hated working there. GL seemed to be the best fit for them and their best work (I'm including SB here). SB ultimately seemed like a show that dominated by it's staff writers and eventually Jill Phelps - no one has ever claimed it be a soap that ever had an era that was consistently amazing in terms of storyline content.