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That was a high-caliber Supporting Actress category that year, but really, Parker gave the performance of her career and her reel was a notch above everyone else. Kimberlin Brown may have had the most 'popular' story of the actresses in that category that year, but was really no match for what Parker managed to deliver.

It would have been great to include Maureen Garrett on this one too as Holly was the other character that had an interesting dynamic with the Maureen character. But then, Tina would have been more confused on who she should be calling 'Maureen.' Also, Alan has no idea how to control a larger panel discussion, so probably for the better... But overall, this was one of the better chats as the women really lead the discussion more so than Alan.

I was kinda surprised Alan let them get a little candid here - like when Tina asked Ellen Parker if JFP gave her a reason why they were going to kill off Maureen. Ellen of course said it was because of some focus group sh!t, the excuse we've heard over and over again.

Michael Laibson talked about recasting Michelle when he joined the show. I think it was his decision. Also, Rachel’s father was Peter Miner, a longtime director at OLTL.

July 1991 is correct, there was a discussion about it when those episodes were posted online originally.

Yes, Eileen Fulton herself mentioned that P&G rejected most of Broderick’s ideas. Not sure how she was in the loop of all that though.

I think people have generally been very fair with their analysis of the soaps and their characters on this board. No one would be putting much thought into a show if they didn't love it or really loved what it once stood for. Perhaps because we love these shows so much is why we critique them. This is a message board after all, and that means everyone who contributes will add their POV into the mix. How boring would this and other threads be if we were a bunch of pollyannas who thought everything the show did was excellent and excusable? Critiquing a show doesn't equate to not loving it, I've never understood how some could jump to that conclusion.

Newman left when Calhoun was still EP. They had been building something with Harley and Josh in the aftermath of Reva’s “death” that had a lot of potential, and Ehlers and Newman had really great chemistry.

Is March 1976 the first time Allen M. Potter was credited as EP of GL?

Bryant's death was extremely shortsighted and the fall-out was incredibly hallow, like much of Sheffer's writing. Soaps are not film or episodic television, and Sheffer and subsequent writers never understood this.

She prefaced almost everything by saying it wasn't her idea or what she was "forced" or "advised" to write it. Damn, this is why this genre is on life support...

Jean basically confirms to me what what I always felt about her - she's a f.ucking puppet that will do what her network or EP tells her to do or write. Zero creativity, passion, or intellect involved.

I wish these idiots would stop trying to compare Sheffer to Marland.

He said it in a nice way, but Rick Hearst basically said in the SOD podcast that he knew it was time to leave when McTavish and Laibson came on, lol. His stories about Beverlee McKinsey and Michael Zaslow were also great to hear. He said he came in at the very end of Pam Long's run, and name-checked Nancy Curlee, Stephen Demorest, Patrick Mulchaey, and Micahel Conforti, and Courtney Simon. He said that GL had a great group of writers at this time that were very in-tuned with the strengths of the cast. Also, he basically said they knew it wasn't going to be the same when Nancy and Stephen left.

Even under ideal storyline conditions, I don't think Judith even had the time to return when OLTL was wrapping up its network run. During that time, she was busy appearing on Broadway and securing her first TONY win for Other Desert Cities. In a way, as I mentioned before, it's great that Judith/Karen's impact has never been diminished by time or some crappy return story. She'll always be remembered for one EPIC stint that was never tarnished in any way subsequently. That's rare.

It may be unpopular, but I hated Mel and I always felt like he really wanted Vicki. I thought he dragged Dorian down and wanted to shape her into something she was never going to be. I wasn’t put off that he was killed off, but I can see how it might have further marginalized Dorian. It’s too bad Herb never fully came back.

Labine’s OLTL was one big convoluted and boring mess, but she didn’t want to be there and said as much. It was basically a consolation prize from ABC after they rejected her GH spin-off for Wendy Riche’s (PC).

Well, he can keep praying as he won’t get any of that with Morina and Griffith in charge.

Both Tad and Dixie were so damn insufferable and unlikable by that point, and the story was so poorly plotted. McTavish clearly had no idea where she wanted to go with it, and it was proof that her ass needed to go. It didn't seem like she cared about any character that wasn't Babe/Krystal by this point. And frankly, Cady seemed bored/confused by the material. She had just come off arguably the best performance of her career during her first stint on ATWT, and then returned to this crap return story.

And really, the career she has for an actress her age in both theater and prestige TV has been pretty amazing. She really ended up transcending both the "soap star" and "sitcom mom" negative Hollywood crap that typecasts so many people.

More likely because of Tom Langan, who had been a producer at Y&R before joining DAYS. David Shaughnessy would take his producing spot when he left. If not for Ellen Parker giving the performance of her life that Emmy season, Kimberlin could have been a close contender for that Emmy.

In fact, TEB has always credited H. Wes Kenney for casting her on Y&R and for remembering her from DAYS. I think TEB once told a story about Kenney coming to her house and talking about the role with her. Would love to learn more about Kenney's involvement on the show at this time - especially after things broke down between Bell and Conboy, and Kenney was hired to replace Conboy and to help Bell reinvigorate the show. Unlike say Ed Scott, Kenney seemed to have much more creative involvement than other EP's who worked for Bell did.

H. Wes Kenney also replaced Conboy in 1982, and by all accounts, he was very instrumental in helping Bell work out the kinks of the hour-long format. He later said he regretted leaving Y&R for GH and said the best experience of his daytime career was at Y&R. It seemed like he and Bell had a bit of a falling out as well, but I can't recall what that was about.

I know Hubbard wasn’t happy with how Lucinda’s origin story unfolded. I wish someone had pressed her for more details on why she didn’t think it quite worked.

I believe Tammy and Lisa Brown actually worked very closely together when Brown became an acting coach on GL after leaving.