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Oh how the mighty have fallen. And I will probably read that article on my way to work. From what little I've seen on deleted tweet it seems like: ShebySheree is back. Drew got demoted. Cynthia was demoted. Kenya was right.

I'll say this much...over the last few days I've greatly enjoyed the discussion in here over Lucky and the history of recasts. Lord I remember when people were totally being recast to be sexier versions of Actor/Actress 1. And they usually fell flat. That said, it is making me miss Lucky. Ever now that Laura has been back for years. There's another Nik. And Spencer is now back on the canvas. And of course, there are the kids.

I noticed. Just means there was something to see when I got online at home. Helllllllo, Coach!!!

BH And it FINALLY begins... After teasing and hints, we have finally started to get into the 'orphans and burn victims' drama of Erika's storyline. And already it is clear of two things...1)I expect the midseason trailer to pop out between now and next week and 2) Bravo is going to draaaaaaaaaag this out COMPLETELY judging from the next week promo...pushing the idea that Tom was cheating...and I expect that judge she posted online about to come into play. In case you missed it during filming, Kyle, Dorit, and Kathy all got Co-Vid. And it was nice to see the show touch on it. So similar to how the OC did it, but taking a page from NJ and not staying on it. In fact, it worked for the flow of the episode I felt. And finally (fingers crossed), we arrive at (for now) a truce in the Sutton vs Crystal feud. Garcelle made a good moderator. Dorit brought the receipt on what Crystal said. Erika ironically asking for some compassion for Sutton. And also ironically Ex Soap Opera Star trying to keep Crystal honest. While I expect them to be fine...for now...I wonder what the next petty thing to happen will break their truce. It really has been an interesting feud for the first half of the season as we head into the second half of the season with Erika's storyline. KYLE. I found myself side-eyeing her. Why? I felt we had Producer Kyle a lot this episode. Moreso when she had her sitdown with Erika at the end. She does enough to not seem that way (talking to Garcelle after quarantine, her talk with Kathy, sitting back while the other ladies have Sutton's back with a comment here and there), but it felt like deflection from where she WAS producing. Said talk with Garcelle to discuss Erika. The fact we had a scene with Kathy to work on coming across as a good persona in this case Mother. Even with Co-Vid...here she was in a 3way talk with Erika and Ex Soap Opera Star. Funnily enough I felt she was at her most real before the first break when she reveals she, Dorit, and Kathy got Co-Vid to Ex Soap Opera Star. EX SOAP OPERA STAR. I feel sooooooooooooooooooo old. Because I recognized ALL OF THOSE CELEBRITY DRESSES she had from soap awards and events she went to. I would say 2 for 2 on her being relatable this week. I did giggle at the subtle shade Sutton threw her way in Confessional about the odds of Sutton's daughter (her oldest who appeared this week and people online say is going to school in France) hanging with Ex Soap Opera Star's daughters. I guess I should say everything NOT having to do with Erika's storyline is when she echoed Lisa Rinna again for me. Otherwise, there she was trying to either help Erika's narrative or being the friend she NEVER was for LVP. DORIT. Once she got Co-Vid...other than a brief flashback, she vanished from the episode. And that brief scene was relatable. And her shading Sutton for Sutton shading Crystal's leather pants is on brand for her. I also liked she helped settle this Crystal vs Sutton feud. SUTTON. Oh, she got one of her children to film!!!! Yay!!! And she looks so much like her mother. Meanwhile, I have to giggle at her admitting she was jealous of Crystal in her Confessional. That said...I felt Crystal kinda won this round of their feud. I did like the others had Sutton's back...especially Garcelle. Going forward, I will need Sutton to stand up for herself more. To paraphrase her...are we going to be honest or not? GARCELLE. She continued to be a straight shooter here and we know I live for her standing up for her BFF. And she still listened to Crystal's point of view. However...she was like ENOUGH. I liked her scene with Kyle, too. Yeah, they have come a long way from the reunion, haven't they? I did feel that what she said in the confessional and giving Erika the benefit of the doubt was contradicted by the looks she was giving when Kyle was talking to her about the articles about Tom and Erika though. CRYSTAL. Well...at least she gave a kind of apology. SMH. I give her props for standing up for herself. KATHY. I found myself side-eying. Still loved the 'Life is a poker game...' comment. ERIKA. BUT... But I will say this much...Erika actually was trying to sell it this week. Moreso than the last few episodes. And I could almost believe her. But here...that's when knowing a bit of what's going on in her case come in. LIke the fact Tom transferred 20 million to her before she filed for divorce. Or the fact that at no time has she acknowledging caring about the orphans and burn victims. And the fact that what she had on display tonight contradicts her online presence where she has been nothing but a heartless bitca. So... In fact, I honestly feel that there was only ONE moment...that I did feel was just a show. Or that she was fake. And it was not at all when she was sitting down with Kyle. It was her very last Confessional during that sitdown. The words. The tone. The look of sadness. Those tears looked real and not like her sitdown at all. Probably the most authentic she has EVER been on the show. But too little, too late...

Same.

I agree. Promotion done good. But people hating under it when it beat out NY AND BH's premiere. I wonder how it will look when they add DVR viewing. I agree about Bershan. Her first two episodes were good and intriguing. But I do feel like she was all of a sudden went left and was doing things to start something. Nice to watch, but still there will probably be side-eye. We will see how I feel next week. WOW.

Simply your perspective. You have said you have been perusing this thread so you already know that we have different views on these girls. You also know, as the lovely Cat mentioned they are subject to change. Again different strokes. *shrugs* Bile? Well...again...everyone have seen the seasons and tend to explain pretty well why they feel this way about them and will probably speak up about them again. That is what happens when viewers watch these shows over a season. Or two. If it is going to trigger you, like I said before several months back you are going to be in for a bumpy ride, given your likes, your dislikes, and our various opinions on how Production works. There is no need to police people over it or throw out backhanded compliments about it. We are all going to have opinions and should be free to express them whether they are the majority or the minority. Otherwise...why be here? The lovely Soaplovers and I for example have very different opinions on Housewives and still joke, kiki, debate, and be civil without comments that appear to be oversensitive, condescending, or bad shady vs fun shady. But...Yes!!! By all means, let us get to the program itself, being mindful, good spirited, and if we must be shady let it be fun shady...rather than for example Erika Jayne amnesia shady. I kid!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW HELLLLLLLL OOOOOOOOO!!!! That better be a lie!!! Wasted potential if so. And he STILL looks good. Meanwhile...lol. 6-5 BRAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was so happy to see him and see him and Britt bond. Can't we get him out of jail along with Shawn, too? EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW....my eyes at Britt and Jax. I...I can't. I am still recovering from Jason breaking Britt's heart and how great those scenes were and THIS happen. I do love that they finally got back around to reveal the Dev's fake diary page though I do wish he was around for the fallout. NuSpencer is good with me and I already see chemistry with Trina. I love at the start of this episode that Cameron and Jake are having a scene together. But I like Liz and her kids so...

SLIDERS memories die hard, I know.

NY If 0 to 100 was a person...LOL!!! That was how I felt by the end of the episode. I mean I was enjoying the Salem trip. The history has its moment. And there have been moments. But like Bershan...I found it...kinda boring. And then it slowly but surely went left. And then it got good. In fact, given all the news I see here on the board, I find it worrying and won't be surprised if NY 'suddenly' have an hiatus for 'editing.' That I would find sad since I would love to see everything as was planned before the attack on ratings, BTS drama, and now the gangup last week. Again, won't be surprised. Bershan is the spark. On one hand, I saw where she was coming from in that this was a girls trip so it was in her best interest to change the conversation. Also...Ramona's friend. And what friend would want to see her friend ganged up on. On the other hand, I did not like her picking on Sonja. I would not have minded a feud mind you but next week's promo makes me feel differently. The sad thing was they were totally bonding last week and this week so it was sad to see it go left. Also perhaps the tension between her and Eboni is not a case of different opinions, but more of different ALLIANCES. If Eboni was brought on to the preach to the OLGs, give Leah an ally, and potential push Ramona as the OLG out per Bravo Manifesto, then Bershan is here to still keep the NY fun vibe going, stir the pot, and general messiness. So...let the trainwreck that comes of different agenda begin!!! lol. THINGS I LOVED: THE RISING OF BERSHAN. She's been fun, but background. But slowly, Bershan has come to the forefront...and is ruffling feathers. I don't hate that. Yet. I do hate that poor Sonja got singled out. I did like she could hold her own with Leah. There is definitely potential for messy. We will see how I feel next week. SONJA VS BERSHAN. I just cannot believe how quickly that went left. I really can't. They were doing so well. Then they argued. Then Ramona smoothed it out. Then they were at it again. I am not sure how I will feel about them getting physical next week but it could be a good feud. SONJA. So it continues. THIS. If there is any storyline truly going on this season it has been the 'What is Going on with Sonja?' storyline this season. It has been great to watch her grow with Eboni's help. And I continue to like their friendship. And now...it looks like we are about to get into that due to Bershan. One thing that could come out of this fight is now the other ladies have to be honest about what is going on with Sonja and how to deal with her and how out of control her drinking has been getting. So looking forward to see how next week goes. THE REACTIONS. The image of Lu and Eboni sitting next to each other with Eboni sipping the straw is an image that I won't soon forget. But there were quite a few reactions to Bershan and Sonja getting into it. But there were a lot of reaction looks to Bershan calling the ladies boring too. And I giggled seeing the server cheering Ramona on as she was dancing on the table. THE HUG. Awwww. I teared up when Eboni revealed her grandmom has passed. While annoyed that Leah tried to make it about her, I did love that everyone put the focus back on Eboni like they should have done. THINGS I DID NOT LIKE: UGH. MORE COVEN EAST. I didn't like that little convo between Leah, Eboni, and Bershan when they were talking bad about Sonja. Especially with Eboni who has been a friend to Sonja a lot this season. It was such a bad look for her. It was like they were looking for any strategy to get to Ramona. It was annoying. LEAH TRYING TO HAVE A MOMENT. I suspect...especially after next week, Bershan ain't the one, BooBoo. So I liked Bershan held her own when Leah started to demand who had said something about her. POOP. Okay, I know it's a thing...but REALLY, RAMONA? MEANWHILE... POTOMAC IKR That you have. And you mentioned it when we all saw the light. You just had a great eye from 'Go!' But we have all explained why we love La Dame so I hope we are in for a great season of gifs.

THIS. It wasn't clear. That would be why I said it. And don't assume that someone is calling you a hater. I like that they all bring something. But as you catch up above, it bears repeating...no blind spot here. La Dame is seen clearly. Simply don't get triggered by it. Again, I did mention it before... OC WOW.

And that syncs up with what Kathy said about there being 20 episodes this season. And the preview for this week includes Garcelle setting the ball rolling on Erika it appears.

I'm back on July 2, but great to hear that we all called it!!! Does this mean we might get his father back?

Ewwwwwwwwwwww Ewwwwwwwwwwww

Hahaha. Don't tell me that.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good for them!!!! Especially MJ because she was great this season, stepping up both her acting and fashion game.

NY I am just thinking wait and see on that Ramona. I honestly do not feel she's been that bad. YET. She has been trying at least. Oddly. Good vets anchor their shows well. And she's a good anchor.

Good to see you like La Dame. That was not clear when we talked about it last. Actually YES, she did. It was addressed. Was the answer to your liking? It does not sound like it. But that is her business. But at least she is not at all continuing it as some storyline. But to stay on point...she answered it. And it continued to be bought up past that season. Even now in Sunday's opener, it was. Does it bother her when it comes up, why yes it does. She is human. lol. Nor should Gizelle be giving that leeway. Especially since she is continuing a fake storyline that we all saw have receipts proving as such. Now to repeat what I said above...and a few months ago...there are different opinions here and we like other opinions to debate with here. It has been very clear that a lot of people like La Dame, flaws and all. No one says she is perfect and part of the reason for that is she does play this Housewife game well. Given that appears to be a trigger, I did warn you that you might be in for a bumpy ride given how well liked La Dame is here. I do agree that she and Gizelle have an interesting dynamic and any of us will pop off when...and let me emphasize this EITHER...do something right (for example I do like Gizelle step up her fashion game) or wrong (example Pastor Holy Whore story continuing). If liking La Dame is going to be that clear of a trigger, I did mention months ago to be ready. We all have opinions. They will differ. As long as no one throws out a backhand compliment as an observation and come across with a harsh tone in their replies (PS apologies if you feel this is one since I do not want a repeat of the last time we discussed this) I hope we good. Going forward I hope for the same. That WHO SAID THAT gif took me all the way out. HAHAHA But I basically said the same (but you did it so much better with what has been seen )as well since I would like to sidestep a repeat of the start of the year when we talked about this. Cuz...flaws and all is La Dame.

From quite a few people. As we discussed at the end of the lasts reunion...It is not worship, but we know how La Dame is and love her for it. There is a difference between being a passionate fan and a stan. If liking someone is too much of a trigger, best to buckle up.

Ooooo...love him. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD YES!!!! I have the repairs right over...

POTOMAC The fakery. I guess I shouldn't be surprised really. Now that everyone sees the diamond they have in the rough that Is POTOMAC, it was just a matter of time before it got the treatment it deserved. And the advertisements we got as far back as the beginning of RHOA, it was great to see. But usually when the masses discover something that the cool kids already knew is usually when it starts to leave a sour taste in the mouth and becomes uncool. Hopefully, POTOMAC will not be that way. The girls (without Monique) still gel extremely well. I still hollered several times. And we still have La Dame Grande...in all her quirky goodness. BUT there were just several times when I was watching and I was taken out of my viewing when I thought...oh you are just doing that for storyline...Wendy trying to excuse the second season cure and all of a sudden Eddie all around, Gizelle and her 'relationship' with Pastor Holy Whore, Candiace and the kids (though I can believe they were in Quarantine together), Robyn's reason for waiting out the wedding. It just felt phoney. Especially after last year's reunion. HOWEVER, there was enough more organic things going on. La Dame and Ray being La Dame and Ray while trying to avoid the vow renewal curse. Ashley getting ready to have her second child while Michael tries his best to NOT be on camera...lol. The introduction of Mia. And of course Gizelle vs La Dame...the feud that almost never gets old. It looks like it will be another great season, but I hope they tread lightly to not do anything to take away from what makes this show POP!!! LA DAME. SHHHHHEEEEEE'S BAAAACK, BABY AND THE LOOK IS SPECTAULAR!!!! LOL!!!! As usual...worth the wait. I liked that unlike most, she touched on the tension between her and Candiace and what to do going forward. And oh look! Her and Wendy had lunch (Production should have shown the whole scene. ) and I already like her dynamic with Mia. And as expected with Monique gone, she is the target...FOR NOW. And as she said they don't want that. I look forward to see how she pivots since we know La Dame reigns supreme. GIZELLE. First of all, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! After years of the whole world dragging her on her fashion, she has stepped up her fashion game. But...that's not the only thing she stepped up. It was clear that Monique did not miss with her binder. Gizelle is still very unmasked. So...it is clear she is working on changing her image. So eventually, she will see that 1)she needs to let that fake storyline with her and Pastor Holy Whore die and 2)the best way to improve her image is to make a truce with La Dame. Bravo might be on her side, but the main audience is not. And if she wants the AUDIENCE'S approval, she will need La Dame. Until then...since she can be slow...I will enjoy every drag La Dame do on her. Nice baby steps though and trying to change the image. ROBYN. I liked what she wore to the nude interude and Juan's butt in his sweats. And her telling look when La Dame when in on Gizelle when she tried to attack La Dame. Otherwise, forgetable. CANDIACE. Speaking of improving images, I see Candiace is trying a page from her new BFF Gizelle and doing the same. Kids. Trying to be independent. Making herself and Brown Pen being this hilarious duo in Confessional. Going along with Gizelle's fake storyline. Yeeeeeeeah, I was not feeling it or her. For now. I look forward to her sitdown with La Dame. WENDY. COME ON THROUGH, DR. WENDY!!!! lol. Not once did she say a thing about her four degrees. She was just...there. The invite and everyone's reactions was hilarious. But like everyone else, self producing, self producing, and self producing. However, it didn't bug me as much as everyone else's. And we got our first event so how can one hate. Still love the family. And her baby has grown. ASHLEY. Speaking of baby...look at her!!!! That baby is coming. What I took from her is that Michael clearly no longer wants to be on camera. SHOCKER!!!! lol. And she is still in Mom mode and I love her like this. I know she's going to be messy, but I hope she will be able to balance it like she did last season. I loathed Early Season Ashley. MIA. So far...I like her. And liked how she chin checked Wendy over plastic surgery. Good premiere, but I have my worries. THINGS TO COME....

Actually the timing of it was as Candiace would say was unfortunate. And more importantly she OWNED it, dealing it all with a class and grace and humor that most of her costars have not in their own lives. Meanwhile we have Gizelle still trying to fake a storyline with Pastor Holy Whore which has been PROVEN was just that...a FAKE STORYLINE. Perhaps if she OWNED it, she would be allowed the same latitude among us that La Dame gets here that you do not seem to understand when there are pages, mentions, and discussions of why.

Because...and it bears repeating...

TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!