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Yeah, I saw that earlier and could not wait to get home to comment. Mary gathered Heather with the quickness. LOVE. Suuuure do. Well if there is anything we all have learned from RHOA, BH, AND POTOMAC, it is above the producers to leak a secret/tea and have a cast member tell it on film. So I could see that. SLC OMG!!! YES, PLEASE!!! MID-SEASON IS HERE!!!

But to be fair...quite a few people pointed out that it has been a habit under the writers that if all boys lead to Joss...even if Trina is the one who has the most chemistry. Dav...Cam...it is totally possible to not be shocked if they go that way. And the writing, as mentioned, has been on the wall as of late...though the fan response is so much better for Sprina. One can hope it doesn't. But one can also dread.

Same. I'm looking forward to seeing a timeline. Or maybe the producers wanted to ambush them to get some drama out of it, but Heather (coming to save the show) was not having it.

Shade at the guys here, not at you. Gossip for another time. All of them, but especially the first one.

From what I've seen online, is it less about the fight that booted Nicole (who was going to be a HW, too) but the fact that she sued Terry for botched surgery and Evolution also produced BOTCHED and Heather found out and had her cut since Evolution also produced OC and it was a bad look for the Heather edit Bravo is doing for this season?

I wanted to say you, but I wasn't sure. And @Soaplovers of course. Meanwhile...

Well, granted I haven't started to watch the aftermath of the cave-in so the last time I've seen the teens is at the art exhibit, I was already writing that it already seems the writing is on the wall because all of a sudden it felt like Esme was shifting away from Trina and Spencer and they were mixing up her and Spencer more with Joss and Cameron while Trina was curiously absent. It was just a sense of there is so much to do with Sprina (and especially with Portia on the warpath) and it just seems to have been put on a simmer to focus on...Joss? It is almost she took Trina's whole story...and I was hoping that it was not just coincidence. Though I've like some of what Esme with Joss/Cam is bringing out with them...still doesn't mean there is not room for the potential of Sprina and their built in drama. I agree and have said so that we haven't had a good teen set in a minute on ANY of the soaps and Spencer's return (and adding a vixen/psycho in Esme) is bearing fruit to that fact. Heck, we even have teen storylines again like virginity, sex, college talk, identity. And that resonates. You would think with them in college in RL, they could block film for sure. I remember all the times Anothey Geary would go on vaca and they would block off all kinds of stuff to at least keep him on air for a while before it was noticeable.

I love you, but as a San Diego gay I have to WOOF!!!!

Yeah, I remember soap magazines (back when there was so many) announcing that JER was leaving and it was like since he knew, JER decided to climax all of his stories before he left. But one thing he was good at during that first run was the fact he built up so many nice stories and then gave payoffs. And lord was it Must See TV. I used to skip class (or go late) during those weeks in college. lol. And the Friday cliffhangers were always on point.

Oh, Cat!!! How I just scream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have you seen the clip where someone uses Adriana's song with Doja Cat (I believe) and some dancers. That song gets around. And I agree that I want them to keep it as the theme song. It's been in my head before the trailer dropped and moreso since. As for Marysol, I don't think that it is too surprising. Remember when Ana outed her for being a Kyle BTS? With Mama Elsa for her to hide behind, she finally has to come into the light. But also she probably had to come to terms with herself as well and be more assertive in life as well. Andy can suck it. Season 2 of RHOM is one of the best Housewives EVER and that was 7 Housewives plus. Add on the recurring characters, background, and drama and there is NO REASON why Adriana should not be a HW as well given how messy she can be. I would think the last few seasons with 5 Housewives (when is NY coming back? Oh, yeah...never mind.) should prove him wrong. As for OC...yeah, I don't think it got a lot of advertising either outside of two promos (one is the Heather returns one). But hey, they couldn't even say SLC was not on Sunday so... PS. Loving the early word on OC. I was just thinking who would be watching here just yesterday. I soldiered through. Daytime Fan tapped out. I think it was Chris B and me at one point. Good to see the reboot is happening.

Yeah, that's good luck.

Of course you did. 😜 But seriously...part of the reason I picked that picture above was due to John being in the picture. I would hope to think they are going to do some kind tribute episode. But I am still waiting for the Stuart Damon tribute episode so....

Hehehe. Here we go again...

Just more reason for her to have a breakdown. Still...you prove the point that this writes itself so why they don't see it is a mystery. Love how you think either way.

Good to have her back. Now for more Mac and Robert scenes!!!

Ha!!! That's good to hear. My boss wants us to go and get boosters around already busy December work schedule. I feel less worried I will be laid up like I was for Shot 2.

I also recall the discussion and the anger. YAASSSS!!!!

@Cat tbf Alexia stays dramatic Sign of a heroine, That trailer was great. . And early reports say Season 4 will be (barring reunion) 14 wpisodes.

End of year. To better days ahead... DISCUSS!!!

RHOM Since that picture doesn't want to show for me... Season 3 suffered from: -a reduced wider cast; -No Mama Elsa (a major factor IMO); -no lightening-rod Karent; -increased toxicity amongst the women. THIS. They stripped everything away that made the show popular. I can endlessly go back and binge Season 2 (and it's funny you mentioned that the other day @Cat about binging because I am totally considering doing another binge again hehe). Season 3? Not so much. And I've already said I could never sit through the Season 3 reunion again. It was the very definition of toxic.

Yeah, I was running over here to say the same @j swift. Carly and Todd was a good coupling and it would be interesting if we must keep RH if they tried to test if the two of them still had chemistry. That said...I would be down for Carly...losing Jason and then Sonny to Nina...having a breakdown. Other than when JB was in the role, they really have not touched on her breakdown in a long while.

I saw that last night and hollered so loud. I mean...not Turkey Neck. lol. I would down for a Wendy vs Gizelle feud next season with La Dame stuck in the middle.

More man for me then.