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Yeah, Joe and Michelle's husband fell out over that deal. Michelle was in the first episode this season at the Evan Cheats party. In fact, the flashback later on of Michelle telling Jennifer was from the party. I think that was the only flaw to a great season really. Perhaps they wanted to just focus on the Evan rumor, but could you imagine if they did that AND they showed the Michelle/Jennifer talk in the episode it happened and not as a flashback? Though I still admit I liked how it was introduced in the season still. Great editing to keep it in. But yes, she filmed a lot and hanged around with Teresa a lot if I'm not mistaken. Then you have her trying to sell the house as well. So I wonder like you. When she's been seen, Michelle had a bit of spark and personality. And Melissa...who has been having a good season...had a storyline. I haven't watched last night yet, but sounds like Michelle did some more stuff. IKR!!! Same. I loved how everyone's pictures did not do them justice, but they were great gowns 'in motion', but hers was easily my favorite and worked completely with the stage and how it was set. And...I have a confession...and I hate to say this BUT... ...I'm getting EXCITED for BH. What's wrong with me? lol. But...BH, NY, POTOMAC in the wings...I'm getting excited to see what's coming.

'Framing Britney Spears' was pretty good. I cannot wait.

@Cat I know it was not the one you wanted, but good to hear so far so good. Meanwhile, I appear to be back to normal. Going to do a light workout though. Perhaps taking it as easy as I could was a good thing though.

You're not alone. I've loved Scotty forever. And Obrecht I loved since her diva hat head turn back during GH's 50th anniversary.

Ooooo...well GET YOUR MONEY, JACKEE!!! POSE. DAYS OF OUR LIVES. WOW.

@Cheap21 about Michelle (the realtor) if I am not mistaken she was either seriously considered to be a new housewife, was a new housewife (I want to say this because people online was shocked at how little of her was seen when she filmed heavily), or a heavily featured Friend Of. I really want to see what little I saw when NJ was filming it is Number 2. But something happened. I could be wrong. @Cat I can feel the shade every time you post those pictures. I am over here hollering. lol.

Awww...I thought she looked decent here. BUT I also hope she steps it up a little for Season 2. Oh, which I'm here I meant to ask you if you happen to listen to Kandi's follow up SPEAK ON IT to the first one she did on the reunion? She told some more that I heard was eye opening. I haven't had time yet to sit down to listen to either yet and was curious. PS. Thank you for the info about Bershan. I wish that someone would drop the NY promo online where she is shown a lot more than the one promo they are showing you for like a nanosecond. I truly believe she filmed a lot more than they are showing. Moreso after that information from her interview. It sounds like it is really going to be 6 really (Heather as the 6th first, then Bershan as the 6th second).

SLC Because I know it was asked...FIRST MARY SIGHTING!!!

So hold up!!! They already BEEN filming??? First...POTOMAC with a coming soon scene...now this...?

Now tbf, the majority are ALL messy. Nothing to do with stanning OR hating. And as already been mentioned, opinions on the ladies always change. No hard feelings here either. Going forward, looking forward to your thoughts on GH once I catch up. LeeAnne is just another thorn. And that recording again is complicated by BTS and personal experience. But again, that has already been spoken on. So with all of that in mind...and how Brandi did this season...it would be interesting if they tried to drop her back in.

See? That's something that I haven't thought about. Could you imagine if LeeAnne came back NOW?

NJ Wait!!! NJ is only 13? Say it ain't so!!!

Hahaha

Awwwww... ...but good you got it.

Perhaps I did. It sounds like I did. The post was after we had been talking about Andy and Production, something we had been doing for a while. And it sounded like 'how are you shocked when he's been like that forever.' My point being...No, He Hasn't. Now I thought about it for a day. And then I wrote my rebuttal and why I IMHO thought that was not true. Using examples from but not wanting to cover the same ground since as we know I've been beating that drum for what...two years now? And you are right. It is very blatant now. Now if I mistook the original post, I apologize. Now my issue is this: The following day or today, we have the text about Monique. I actually went back to (and since it's at the top of this page (or page 2169 cuz this response will probably be long-ish. Early apologies), I believe I only mentioned POTOMAC once as the most clear and most watched example of what we were discussing...Andy and Production. I also cited other shows and when and where I felt the shift in question. Then I connected it to why we were discussing Production. re: RHOA and their current season and reunion. I am very well aware where a discussion of POTOMAC and its last season can go. After all, I was there outside of what was mentioned at the reunion? That rebuttal and THAT was all that was taken from what I wrote? I couldn't help but go back to last season when you Cat, me, and several others had long discussions about this. I believe it was mostly you Cat and I that was discussing with one poster the different things and angles about how it went down. Talking about our point of views. At the time, that poster had great feedback and perspective, but also seem to always want to turn the conversation into Karen vs Gizelle. They were mad obsessed about it at that. I thought it was just me...until around the reunion when another poster I believe it was Antoyne pointed out the same thing I had a few times before. And at that point, it seem like that poster was being what I believe is the definition of a troll. Given that before the other day post...I posted a few pages back I said one thing I did not want for this season was a repeat of last season for POTOMAC where yep...it was quite heated here...was potential trolling again. Since French's avatar is suspiciously like SOD's resident troll...I question a post about Monique and stanning for Gizelle after a post where I was ONLY discussing Andy and Production. And given I love French's comments over on the GH thread, yeah that was saddening if true. It occurred to me while I was work, that I probably sounded harsher than I meant to as well. So let me go ahead and say to @FrenchBug82 I apologize for how that sounded earlier. Going forward, we really are going to have to agree to disagree on last season. Like I said earlier and Cat said as well, everything was shown re: the fight. There are even replay in slow mo videos online now. So not discussing that again when there is videos and previous pages. As for the reunion, there was plenty to digest. And like I said there are plenty of pages you either can go back and look at backing up all that has been said. And all TV shows have deleted scenes...reality tv included. Again...previous pages. :_ Thank you @Cat for having my back while I was at work. And while I'm typing this I see. Stan? Hardly. Passionate? Definitely. Since you are throwing some light shade, I see you know you can hold your own. Which will be needed with the coming RHOP season. Cuz again...we are passionate. Now I said what I said. So in the interest of moving forward and keeping to the original post re: Andy and Production. DUST!!! to the rest of that.

ALL OF THIS. Especially the bold.

RHOD What fresh hell was that? This was the first post-LeeAnne season. The first season where those harpies that hated her could say...See? We don't need you to be around to be a successful show!! Granted they were in a pandemic, but THAT was it? There were so many ways it could have gone...keeping Jen's cut scenes for some spice, adding Claudia Jordan who was in the area, showing something, getting rid of dead weight to add WEIGHT. Thankfully, LeeAndra, Tiffany, Kameron, and begrudgely Kary pulled their own weight. But this season started soooo good. It was so fun. It had momentum. But somewhere around the time news of Brandi quitting, that momentum...died. Thankfully the two part reunion...regardless of people's attempts to not be put in the hot seat allegedly...look like it won't be boring. And the running rumor is IF it comes back next season, expect some changes. Hm. Sounds like a good amount of the HW shows other than NJ, POTOMAC, and NY right now. Other than the 80s nods and everything about DALLAS, BUT some of the ladies' lack of respect for it (and I'm not a big fan of DALLAS, but I know the pop culture history to respect it and will probably still watch the TNT seasons eventually), this finale was a...'wait, this is the finale?' Bad form. LEEANDRA. I really should not be surprised. But coming into this season, I was not her biggest fan. Especially when she started to look more and more like LeeAnne. During LeeAnne vs D'Andra, while I could see they both had fault in how that went down, I was Team LeeAnne. So coming into this season, she had to do one heck of a redemptive arc for herself for me to like her. And...well...SHE DID. I said it once and I'll say it again, LeeAndra is what soap opera heroines are made of. The good. The bad. The ugly. She has been showing everything and has NEVER been boring. She was an fascinating enigma to me and gave a complete arc this year. And I cannot wait to see her dragging people at the reunion. I liked that she called Kary out about how when she drunk she did some stupid things in front of the group. Then I loved that she talked to her privately to be sure she was okay. See? She had finally started to remember how to be a friend...which for me was what I liked about her intro season when she was the good, but firm friend to LeeAnne. WINNER. TIFFANY. Still had LeeAndra's back during that call out on Kary in a nice respectful way. She also gave us so much this season. A new and fresh perspective. A nice family. And her arc concluded with her and her mother making amends, less work hours, and this group of folk. She did not do much otherwise this finale. And I wonder about what is going on in real life. Until then...WINNER. KAMERON. Lord...she's been my comic relief all season. And that alone makes her a WINNER. And we know how much I love Court. They were such a great team this season (btw so was LeeAndra and Jeremy) and they were living life. And Kameron at least always kept it funny. I was happy her and Tiffany had been able to bury the hatchet. But we will see how I feel at reunion. STEPHANIE. Useless. Your friend destroy a piece of TV history and all you could do is gasp and not be like ready? Did she even do anything this season really? LOSER. BRANDI. Shady Phae Phae did it better. What do I mean? Not knowing that she was not preggers that whole time. In the baby was born in February, that means you got preggers back around the time filming started. So you seriously, seriously, SERIOUSLY expect anyone to not side-eye you with pina calada according to the mystery guy in this episode IN HAND? 'Oh, I don't know about DALLAS.' And? RESPECT THE HISTORY, BITCH. RME. Her attempt this season to paint the narrative that she was making amends for her video fell oh so flat with the majority of fans (I cannot even believe she has fans, but whatever) and it's time for that exit she deserves stage left. A season too late, but still...LOSER. KARY. Perhaps if she had tried to be honest (c) Kyle Richards, I would have more sympathy for her. She, like Brandi, thought she was just going to control the narrative this season by focusing on her kids to show a more human side to offset the fact that she is a sucky person. Well, all that did was make me like her kids and see through the glass. And unlike Kary, I didn't break it. And the fact that she STILL could not take any accountability...which sometimes means you have to see people say the same thing over and over and over again like they did at her at her call out...was telling to me. I will give her that her scene talking to LeeAndra about having to deal with her husband, being strong for her girls, dealing with Co-Vid felt real. That said, getting CoVid before the reunion...clearly she did not care about it too much. So...an act? Or just too little, waaaay too late for me. I can see where she brought drama this season, but never liked the bitca. And stage left for her. LOSER. Uh...where did Jen go? That said...ready for the reunion at least. ETA: @FrenchBug82but here's the thing...YOU were not here for Potomac to go through that discussion. Unless you were here under ANOTHER name. So how would you know what was said during that time. We went over that in full detail WITH RECIEPTS to back all of that up. And multiple points of view were discussed respectfully. So unless you are trying to troll like someone who was there at the time...who I honestly thought was Gizelle...this is all a moot point. And we all know where the blame was and it was not all on Monique. No rewriting of history. Good try though. And we will have to agree to disagree. MEANWHILE... POTOMAC CAST TRIP...in Virginia.

Hehe @Cat. You're not alone. I just started the current season opener a few days ago.

@NothinButAttitude sounds like the latter. *sips tea*

Haha!!! Variety is late. Everyone else has already more or less confirmed.

I totally agree. I was excited when I heard about him. And what little I saw of the setup for him...when he was behind bars...was cool. But now...? It's like what happened. It could only be GH's fault.

All my GH viewing.

And lest we forget...or I don't...Buffy's 18th birthday present...and Willow's pusher now that I think about it. He can play so much better and menace than this.

HAHAHAHA!!!! I was just wondering about him yesterday. How well timed.

Since it came up, while I think we all know my loathing of Andy Cohen, let me take the time to repeat myself over a point that was brought up above... ...Perhaps it was because back in the day, Andy held his bias better with some charm, charisma, or twinky homogenic traits, but other than in extreme cases (it seem clear how he felt about some of his OGs), it never came off as he was playing too favorite on anyone. That said, another factor might be also that the OGs were very much able to verbally smack down all haters to them back then...heck, how many times Teresa was her vs everybody? Even better, their haters were ALSO good at defending themselves back, making for some great reunions for sure. So all he really had to do was sit back, ask questions, and do his thing. Even some of today's Housewives easily can do verbal without 'help.'. Not all. SOME. Many pages back, a lot of us pinpointed when this all really went to his head: HIS HOUSEWIVES PARTY with Ex Soap Opera Star saying 'dance monkeys dance' or something like that. Since then, the mask has dropped. And it has been behind the curtains for just about every viewer but the shallow or pick-mes who see how Andy is now. I've gone off at length about when I saw it myself...BELOW DECK SEASON 7 reunion. And since then to now, every reunion BUT last year's NY reunion, he has let it all hang out...even when he should keep his ego in check and JUST HOST. Even worse, he acts like HE the housewife and someone was messing with his man(s), distracting unnecessarily from what was being discussed, being tone deaf to the serious issues, or just being obnoxious when he is called out on that very truth tea. And now that ability to not be objective is hurting his shows. It was VERY telling at the POTOMAC reunion when he was trying to gaslight Monique. Production went behind his back to save her from his bias to save someone he seems to think is the face...and NO, she is not the face of POTOMAC. He just wants her to be. With that in mind, it does make me suspect that perhaps as payback at Nene, Andy could be sabotaging RHOA this year. To make it less than what it was since Nene has been calling him all the way out. He can't get to her, but he can get to the house she built. Why? Because he has now made it clear how he is now. Petty. Ratchet. Wh3ore. Cokehead. As for reality tv...yeah to an extent it really is not real anymore. Emphasis on anymore. The best drama on these shows HOWEVER have been when something not planned happened. Or when the producers allowed real life to enter. I immediately think of BH and Russell. The first few seasons of RHOA. NY was built on the friendships of the ladies and that is STILL going strong. And they STILL have moments to show real life...like Jill's husband's funeral. Will people self produced? As far back as NY Season 3, Camille in S2 of BH. Even Kenya from the moment she stepped into frame Season 5 of RHOA. However, there has been over the last year of consistently breaking the 4th Wall, revealing so much of what is going on behind the scenes, now viewers have to wonder what they ARE NOT seeing versus what they ARE SEEING. There is a reason the biggest drama on RHOA right now is the fact they edited out a lot that would give the whole disjointed season perspective. Compare that to Season 9. Dark or not, they showed EVERYTHING. So Production can and should DO BETTER. Until SOMEONE is telling them NOT TO. And we can guess who would do that...regardless of claiming to no longer have any power. And he has been called here the Brian Frons of reality TV and I believe that. And none of it is real...or even fun...if I have to question any of it to the point it can't be enjoyed...well what's the point of even watching...moreso now that there are plenty of other shows to watch out there? That is the dilemma Bravo has found itself in. If they don't inject some fun AND real back in, these shows might go the way of cancelled soaps. Now...that's my 2 cents on that.