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And I bet it keeps sinking. This had failure all over it.

+1. I love that apartment. lol And I loved watching Karen/Megan in the water doing all sorts of weird things, like propping her feet up, etc. She was hilarious. And agreed with others on Sean Hayes. The second episode was great for him. Good physical comedy. I can't believe how easily they all slipped right back into these roles and it's as fun as ever. I grew tired of the original once they started relying heavily on being almost a cartoon and relying on big name guest stars to generate buzz. Look! Cher! Look! JLo! Even if I liked the appearances it was coasting at the end. But it feels as fresh as ever right now.

Yeah. I'm surprised there's no Claudia, unless she's a recurring or guest character. I don't really mind the twist on Sammy Jo, and I also don't really mind making Krystle into Cristal and a Latina, but the show just looks ... crappy. It could be trashy fun. I'm going to watch it, but it just looks glossy with no substance. I don't mind a new take on the show at all but meh to this. Maybe I'll be surprised but I doubt it. When does this start?

+1 She looked so uncomfortable and ready to bolt. She won't last IMHO.

I wish I had Retro. Grr. LOL. Is this still being uploaded somewhere? (@DRW50) I know someone on DailyMotion was doing it but I think that stopped and I became extremely far behind so it's hard to go through all the old videos and find where I left off. I'm glad Retro is still airing this. I think Dark Shadows, Edge of Night, would be great choices for them to add. I wonder why they haven't added other soaps? Probably cost? I'm a sucker for episode counts @YRBB ! Are you still doing the flashbacks for Y&R with the monthly counts?

I enjoyed Jed. She fit in well. I'm already annoyed by Meghan and it's day two (and she already looks out of place and uncomfortable). I was watching daily but now I may not anymore. Shame. Jed and Nicolle were great but I can totally see why they'd rather go with Meghan but I think it was a mistake for non-conservative viewers. She'll draw in the conservatives as she's more right than Nicolle and Jed were and they have that audience they want to appeal to, which I get. When Joy was talking about Trump's Access Hollywood tape Meghan tried to bring up Bill Clinton and Joy shut her down by saying 'Trump's the president now' or something like that. EXACTLY. I'm so tired of both sides saying "well this person was worse so that makes this OK". Hillary, Barack and Bill are not president. Trump is. I don't care what anyone else did. They aren't running my country.

I miss Jed. Clearly they fired Jed for Meghan. I doubt it had anything truly to do with "focus groups" (or they wouldn't have brought her back this season in the beginning). I liked the dynamic they had. Not sold on Meghan. Whoopi seems to like her though from what it seemed today. They clearly want more Joy/Elisabeth bitchfests with Meghan filling that role. I don't know that I need that again. They got rid of Elisabeth and later Joy because it got so tired.

I liked the episode. It was funny seeing Will and Jack dealing with being 'daddies' now lol. Ben Platt was great though. Wouldn't mind him popping up again. Grace and Karen locked in the shower was ok. It was a fun little nod to Lucy and Viv in the shower from The Lucy Show. I lol'd when a soaked Grace walked into the apartment during Jack and Will dancing to Madonna and when they noticed her, they stopped for a second and went right back to dancing. The show really hasn't missed a beat. I also like the newly redecorated hallway leading to Jack and Will's apartments. Very nicely done.

I have to admit I'm feeling apprehensive. I just don't know that I trust Roseanne LOL. Will and Grace picked up like no time had passed and it was the same show. I don't know that Roseanne can recapture that like W&G and Fuller House have. I mean, I hope they do but I'm becoming wary and apprehensive for some reason. I think I'm just having a hard time separating Roseanne herself from what Roseanne should be.

Exactly. All we did was mention it won't be every week I agree I'm Trump'd out too, beyond Trump'd out, I've stopped watching a lot of news because he's constantly the focus, I don't even go out of my way to watch Good Morning America because they spend the first 15 minutes on his tweets from the night before or the latest drama he's caused. But the show was brought back because of the election video they did and there was no way they'd not go Trump crazy in the first episode. I thought it was hilarious despite being Trump'd out. The Cheetos, the White House page talking about "the new owner", Karen pulling a Kellyanne Conway sitting on the sofa, the English to Russian dictionary and the fidget spinner ... I don't know, it worked for me.

It was strange. And yes, most of the episodes felt like filler. Not bad per say but again I just felt Season 2 was tighter and more focused. I don't think they've mentioned her at all in 3 seasons (maybe the first but I don't remember if they did) but I'd like it if they did. Maybe they will.

Grace pulling out that bag of cheetos was everything! lol But yeah they won't do this nonstop going forward. People have reviewed the first three/four episodes and it's not politically heavy like the first episode.

Eh, I get it, but it needed to get out of the way, especially considering their reunion video was about politics, they were going to address it, how and why would they not? It's not going to be like that every week and president jokes aside, it was still hilarious. I don't see why some are so up in arms over it. I know we want an escape but it still was to me. Trump IS a joke and deserves to be made fun of. He brings it on himself but he'll never understand that.

LOL it was great. So good to see the show back and picked up like they haven't missed a beat. Loved them getting the politics out of the way in the first episode. I'm sure there will be more jokes but I don't think it will be as politically focused, I saw some whining about that on social media. The jokes were great. I loved the opening game scene "hostage" "Melania?" .... "I just can't with her" "Jada Pinkett Smith" ... lmao ... Caitlyn Jenner. Jack bringing up Scandal and Shonda ... Jack on Grindr and kissing a secret service agent in the White House ... Karen sitting on the couch of the Oval Office like Kellyanne Conway ... Grace opening a bag of cheetos ... Will and Grace's pillow fight in the Oval Office ... WELCOME BACK!!

Harris should be 20 in 2017 I believe. I don't love they're de-aging her but I sort of get it. Harris fills the 'Darlene' role, Mark fills the 'DJ' role. I'm curious what ages Andy and Jerry (I disliked so much they named their kid Jerry Garcia, sorry) will be and how they're used and what their relationship will be like. I sort of imagine a Roseanne/Jackie relationship between them. People have seemed more interested in Darlene's kids and I haven't really seen anything mentioned of Andy or Jerry. I also have to agree I hope we don't get the 'mean-spirited' tone the show developed around Seasons 5/6/7. And for what it's worth, I thought 2 Broke Girls was terrible for the most part. The actresses are talented but it was nothing but one-liners back and forth, I don't know, it was hollow to me.

I've never watched Shameless and had no idea who she was lol. Guess we'll see if she's any good.

And it's mostly organic when they appear. I think Season 2 was better than Season 3, at this point having only watched the first 9 episodes [the rest are released later]. Season 3 isn't bad but it's a bit more ... out there and cheesy lol. But I still laugh my butt off and it's not a huge emotional investment so it's enjoyable fluff to me. Season 2 just felt tighter to me. Season 3 feels all over the place. But Episode 9 was a huge step in the right direction. The ending was great! The Gibbler house episode was a standout. I think Andrea Barber is great but she was a bit rusty this season, some of the more emotional things I don't know that she did great but when she was in classic Kimmi mode and being nuts and strange (laser tag was hilarious), she was fantastic. Looks like they quickly moved Jackson and Ramona on from their Season 2 relationships. I like Rocki, Gia's daughter. Speaking of quick ... they finally addressed Terri, Danny's wife from the first season. I liked Eva La Rue but I can see why they never bothered. Joey's kids again. Lawd. So awful and obnoxious but it all made sense for the character of Joey. Jesse and Becky's daughter is adorable. The kids playing Tommy and Pamela are well cast. I feel like Lori is playing an exaggerated version of perky Becky though ... but I lol'd at Becky in the doctor's office, that was more better.

+1 It was so bizarre to hear Donna call Brenda her best friend. I mean ... no. Donna was always Kelly's bestie. Sure she and Brenda were friends but lawd. lol. And I always found the Donna/Dylan 'friendship' lacking but they had a few moments I think and I would have liked to have seen more. Agreed completely on Val and Kelly being more like each other than they'd ever want to admit. I really loved their feud but I thought the initial beginning of it was a tad forced and contrived but overall they were so fun going back and forth with each other. @YRBB Agreed that Kelly's eating disorder storyline was well done. For a while, 90210 and MP really could craft an entertaining and soapy storyline. Also agreed that Season 5 of both shows had the cast isolated and it wasn't the same, also the casts started to become bloated.

I totally agree with the latter paragraph. It definitely seemed like that. I think the whole sex with Dylan while 'dating' Steve set the ground for her emergence (and started her shift) and not at all something Brenda would do. Didn't know that about Tiffani Thiessen! Makes sense as early Val was definitely 'well this was for Brenda so let's cross her name out and call her Val'. I guess they saw the potential for a bitch because Kelly became an annoying nag (she annoyed me a lot in Season 5, immediately being suspicious of Val and being a nag about it, the Jackie/Erin model episode she was grating ...) and Thiessen sort of took off. Watching Season 5 also keeps reminding me how much I hated how they wasted Carteris and Andrea and the whole Jesse/Andrea thing never did anything for me. Andrea/Brandon should have been the move in Season 5. Brandon/Kelly never did anything for me either.

The show did have a nice balance for a while. The College Years became a tad annoying and started a slow decline, but I still enjoy every season overall (rewatching Season 5 now as it is airing on Pop and lawd Dylan the addict got on my nerves bad and until she emerged on her own, you could have crossed Val's name for Brenda with the whole insta Dylan relationship, it would have been great Brenda/Dylan angst). MP and 90210 had some truly SOLID soapy seasons in the middles of their runs.

LOL Carl. But I agree. I was never a fan of Kevin Dobson or Mack really. Keep the recaps coming @YRBB ! I'm enjoying them and realizing it's been way too long since I've watched Knots. Also to add I agree that Gary/Val sort of made Kenny/Ginger redundant. I never thought of it before but now looking back on storylines, a lot of what could have been given to Kenny/Ginger was given to Val/Gary. Also great comparison on the Gary/Abby and Gary/Val chemistry/relationship, I agree with you @YRBB

Meet Harris http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/roseanne-revival-taps-shameless-star-key-role-1042043

I don't get Jed leaving. Weird. This table needs stability. They had a GREAT ratings boosting panel and now Jed's gone. Stupid.

Mark, David and Darlene's son, has been cast: http://tvline.com/2017/09/07/roseanne-revival-mark-ames-mcnamara-darlene-david-son/ Taping starts in October. I'm hopeful I can attend a taping in November if my California trip pans out ...

That's how I felt but I don't mind her as much now for some reason. I still wouldn't mind her gone though. lol