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So much hair lol! Like John's mullet was legit!

I liked today's show a lot. But OMG the HD Jarlena flashbacks make her makeup look so purple and intense. Also how on earth would Johnny be able to have the exact dialogue in the script? Unless Sami was creeping around behind the door longer than we knew? John have very valid points and Roman is all NBD it's over.

I would definitely say that's the most shown part of the wedding in pop culture. Either that or Liz Taylor cursing Luke/Laura

It was just a one night stand with very little impact after Sonny/Carly cheated. Sam and Liz (Lucky, Ric, Jason) Courtney and Carly (AJ, Jason, Jax) Olivia and Alexis (Sonny, Julian, Ned) Those are the ones I could think of that have 3 off the top of my head. I am sure there are more. Yeah, I really don't get them bringing in a whole new big bad instead of tying it to an old one. Or make it the Zaccarra's behind it to destroy Sonny or something.

Fair. I wasn't really thinking of the heat Joss/Alec would generate just the hilarious histrionics LW's Carly would come up with. I am just not sure the Dante angle would have made it more coherent? S&B might have broken up, but would it have effected the Balkan's overall plans? They just had no use for the kid anymore and Brante might have had to go find it together. They both slept with Kate too. I actually think they might have been headed toward a S/B/J WTD in 1997 after Brenda slept with Sonny in the caves. They made a big deal about asking Brenda if she was possibly pregnant at the hospital after that and she flashed back to her and Sonny and stammered around saying she didn't know. But then MB/VM didn't renew their contracts and it was most likely dropped if it was ever thought of. It might have been interesting for Brenda to be pregnant with Sonny's baby after he left her at the altar and the repercussions of that, but the show wasn't as baby crazy back then.

Oh I don't think GH would ever actually retcon the kid out of existence but I don't think even Brenda fans care that much about him. Anyhow, he is a character that is ripe to be brought back and it would be fun for Joss to fall for him just for Carly reactions. I wonder who the Balkan was originally supposed to be. Did Guza just not have an endgame plan? I can't imagine Suzanne was always part of that. I was hoping it would be connected to the Rivera family or even a non-dead Luis or Alcazar connection, but, no, Brenda just managed to piss off another International crime figure.

I don't think so. Silly big bads were kind of Sonny/Brenda's bread and butter, but this story had so many holes and was BORING. The Tin Man crap in 1997 was full of holes and stupid, but it was at least interesting, moved quickly, and had a decent ending. The Balkan stuff didn't. Still to this day I don't understand why Mr. and Mrs. Balken didn't just take Brenda out when Susanne was with her 24/7 for years and went through the ruse of bringing her to PC where multiple people were willing to protect her. That's the worst plan in history. Both stories sucked, so I understand.

Lol! They could and very few would care. But I would hope they would retconning it to be Jax's in the end. Not Sonny's. Sam w/Sonny and Courtney w/Nik

Honestly, Dante knowing Brenda wasn't that bad. It was him and the entire town being obsessed with her. Characters that should never have cared Brenda was in town like Maxie were ranting about how much they disliked her. Some of their scenes were cute. I think if VM was going to put her foot down it should have been at the very beginning because the show made it seem like something huge happened between them and it amounted to nothing. I wouldn't have been for the Brenda/Dante pairing, but I don't think it's that awful in theory. It's not like either one knew the other existed you know? There is a very plausible explanation that Brenda fell for Dante because he reminded her of Sonny and it's not like they did anything wrong. It was a situation where you either go there or don't. The half-assed retelling of the story was more hurtful then having Dante/Brenda share a kid or just not telling the story at all. IMO, Brenda didn't ever need a kid unless it was a Jax baby from 2003. Their is no point to this rando kid she has unless somewhere down the line they bring him in to pair him with Joss or Trina.

She did. She openly admits that fact lol🙄. I think she saw NL or saw a Emily/Sonny scene and thought they would look good together and had chemistry. They physically looked okay together, but I don't know why the show is taking advice from the talent's significant others

I think pushing Dante/DZ too much too soon didn't help. DZ/Dante were great, but there was a time Dante was EVERYWHERE and even I got sick of him. It strange how he quickly became marginalized after a few years as the main lead. At some point the show just sort made Sonny into a family man with Carly and stuck with that. Well, they should have scrapped the entire romance, but, yes agreed. I thought NL was cute being drunk talking to Sonny, but maybe she should have passed out on the couch and Sonny put a blanket over her or something instead. Wasn't the Sonny/Emily stuff rumored long before it happened? Just no one wanted to believe it? I remember seeing some scenes and feeling it was coming as well. It's very interesting they gave Emily the initial bi-polar arc with Sonny. It's such an important arc for Sonny and he played it out with such an inconsequential love interest.

The whole Emily thing was embarrassing for Sonny, so just add that to the list. It was a scene that stuck out as odd because he had Max carry her. One of the 4 or 5 scenes I remember from that "romance". I don't know why I have noticed Sonny/MB never carrying women around in love scenes or in danger/illness situations but I have. It might be because Brenda/Jax had such a different physicality and Jax/Ingo was always carrying her around and Sonny just never did that with Brenda or anyone else. It's a really bizarre thing to notice or fixate on, but I figured it might have been some sort of personal choice for Sonny/MB. I can imagine Guza tiring of Sonny/MB because a lot of his stories and romances tanked. Even if it was not entirely MB's fault, I can see a HW getting frustrated with spending time and focus on romance after romance and none of them panning out well. Plus, Steve seem to be pushed into the leading role by the mid 2000's and DZ took off quickly. I could see the temptation of pushing Sonny out as the main lead.

I don't think so, but maybe. I have noticed MB rarely, rarely ever carries a women. He's certainly not Jax carrying women around like ragdolls. I think I can only remember one or two times he carried Brenda or Carly and it was TB's Carly and those two women weigh like 80 lbs. It might be a height/strength thing tbh, but it's honestly something I have noticed Sonny/MB never does even when the scene probably calls for it. One of the scenes I liked with Emily is when Sonny takes her to his island I think and tries to be all cool and speaking Spanish to everyone and NL's Emily starting speaking Spanish too. And Sonny was SHOCKED Emily could speak a second language.

Lol! It so gross to think of Sonny and AT's Emily. Do you remember when Sonny was talking to Juan about having safe sex with Emily? Not to mention the fact they had direct contact with each other when she was like 11. It's not like they did not know one another back then.

Not directed at me, but i used to think IR was a cool, chill guy and super handsome and laid back and now he had to go and ruin Jax for me.

Yeah. 🤣 I read his book during quarantine and it was pretty good honestly lol. He's pretty up front about the fact he was living with his wife (not married yet) and cheating on her while he was on AMC. I thought that was pretty honest of him to tell the world. A lot of the stories in the book don't paint him as a great guy. I am not saying he's awesome and the best now, but I have watched an episode or two of his podcast and I do find myself liking him. He's probably just mellowed in time. He's been married forever and so has RC so I am sure it's water under the bridge now.

They were in that fake what if episode in 2003. Skye tried to seduce Sonny in that alternate reality episode. That's the only real scenes I remember.

I do lol. I heard that a long time ago and that it was one sided, but I am almost positive in his book he said it was a relationship. That could be just to save face and he didn't mention RC in particular. His own accounts of his behavior back then aren't the greatest, so he may have just been a huge jerk back then.

@amybrickwallace is right. It allegedly goes back to their AMC days. I have heard two stories. One is that they dated or had an affair and it ended badly and the other is that MB pursed her very aggressively and she wasn't having it. I think it's fairly common knowledge that RC did not want to work with MB on GH very often. I want to say MB discusses it in his book as an affair gone wrong, but does not mention RC by name.

I thought AT could be very irritating as well. Overall, I liked her better because AT's Emily was different than the normal cookie cutter heroine NL's Emily became, but some of AT's Emily's brattiness would annoy me. Especially when she would bash the Q's and eye roll everything her family said and thought Jason was the coolest. I also thought AT had good chemistry with CB's Zander and I don't think NL really had chemistry with anyone.

Yes! Everything after Nina's initial story with Franco, Finn, and Ava totally could have been Skye. I never thought about that, but it would totally work. I know there is something weird that happened with MB and RC in the past, but they have chemistry as well. I have to agree she was super irritating, but Nik was no prize himself. I can see why Helena wouldn't tolerate a woman like that for sure though. But again, Nik dated Courtney, Nadine, Gia, and Brooklyn, who were all from less than stellar backgrounds. Maybe not Brooklyn, but he was paying her for companionship, so?

Lol! I am pretty sure Courtney accomplished that.

Yeah, my feelings for NL's Emily aside, she was a good person, had a good job, was beautiful, came from a good family, they loved each other etc. I am not sure why the Cassadines would object so violently to her. Did Helena/Stefan ever explicitly state why they hated her so much?

Thanks! I remember Lydia and the Summer plot a little. Didn't they recast Lydia fairly quickly? Were the Q's not wealthy enough for Stefan? It's not like Emily was poor white trash. Annoying, but not an unsuitable mate for Nik. I never got the Cassadine Emily hate. I don't remember TC checking out that early in his second run. I used to think he was one of the worst offenders with that, barely even trying in most scenes, especially at the end. I wonder how much of that had to do with his personal issues now.

To dump her? That's fine. To dump her at the altar in public was what was out of character for Jax and for Jax/Brenda. I just don't believe Jax would ever do that to Brenda when he saw how she suffered when Sonny did that to her. It was 100% a conversation that could have taken place before she walked down the aisle in front of friends and family. And then to awkwardly try to pay her to leave town? Gross. I also think Jax was being super weird and pressuring Brenda to marry him immediately. No worries about defending Jax. I used to love him. It sad IR makes me hate Jax.