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Yes, I think so because she's credited for a lot of Liz's rape story and that would be in Brown's era.

Lol. I make typos all the time when it hasn't even been a long day. Do MVJ and SJB have a close or good relationship?

I am hoping it was RH's sister? Lol. I love a cute typo. But they both were wasted as characters. B&B likes to do that. SJB's daughter would be an adult now? So she could relocate. Obviously, it's not as easy as me just saying that, but it's possible.

Understandable. I barely watched it one time and I was thinking how the show presented it. If I watched it today (and I won't lol) I'd probably have a different interpretation.

Wasn't she on B&B too? Y&R it's your turn lol.

If they weren't so hyper focused on re-pairing her with Sonny the show could have done so much with the character. SJB has chemistry with everyone and could have made it amazing. Ugh....I feel like SJB might have the most "wasted oppurtunity" roles in all of soaps-outside of OG Carly, of course.

The whole story was dark. Claudia was basically used as an underaged sex toy passed around by her dad to appease his colleagues. The way Sonny treated her was disgusting. And she kept coming back for more. The Ric/Claudia stuff is murky to me. On one hand, he did blackmail her to continue the relationship. On the other hand she almost killed Michael. Claudia could have said no and Ric would have exposed her for the criminal act of almost MUDERING a child. Was it consensual? Not really. I saw it more as two awful people doing awful things to get what they both wanted. The show never played it as rape. Very Guza circa 2009. None of this would fly post 2020. I find Ric to be a complete sleaze. I see Claudia as more a victim of her own upbringing and circumstance. It still doesn't make her a great person.

None at all. The misogynistic writing Claudia/SJB had to deal with was awful. Welp. 🤷‍♀️ You should have googled it before you asked on here lol.

I liked Claudia/Nik. IIRC Ric/Claudia were pretty serious about each other. I think Ric pulled some weird crap once she got pregnant with Sonny's baby. He certainly didn't rape her, but was being usual sleazy Ric. There was a certain point that I basically stopped paying attention to Ric and his shenanigans and 2009 was way past that lol. The show really, really, wanted a SJB/MB Sonny/Carly redux no matter how much it made Claudia suffer as a character. Good for her. I mean, it's really demeaning for SJB. BB looks almost the same age as her.

Fake raped Carly? Ric's done a lot of really bad things. His father was the one that Claudia "seduced" when she was 16.🙄 Ric/Claudia liked one another and had consensual sex unless I am remembering wrong. I believe Claudia was raped by Gino Solieto? and that's how Brandon Barash's Johnny became her son not her brother after she died.🙄

No. Ric didn't rape Claudia.

I guess it would hinge on whether or not LH/SBu had chemistry. I can't recall them ever sharing a scene. They might have when LH was covering a few years ago during Covid. I do think Hartley actually has better chemistry with DZ than KeMo does though.

I think there might be a bit more. I think both Kelly/Steve were way over the JaSam pairing before it ended. KeMo especially seems pretty happy paired with DZ. I think LH would probably be more open to it because she just seems to go with the flow. The woman was on Passions for it's entire run. I can't imagine she'd be that picky about story lol. JaSam is frankly pretty played out. I am just surprised the show isn't even trying to play any romantic interest between them at all. Same with Liz.

Honestly, the Todd Manning doll is the ONLY thing I remember about that store. Lol I think they had Nurses Ball stuff which help support an HIV/AIDS charity which I thought was cool.

Lol! $85 dollars for a skincare product made by GH? I actually don't think the handbags or accessories are a horrible idea. They used to have that ABC soap shop back in the day. No idea if that made money. I need someone to buy the Deceptor and tell me if it works lol.

I don't think they are that much alike in characterization. I was just thinking they have some similarities. The daddy issues, the hyper fixation on one idea (for Kristina the baby, Brenda it was Sonny), the impulsive decisions, self centered actions, etc. I think the audience is supposed to be frustrated with Kristina. We shouldn't be on her side. I think Kristina is just a flawed heroine. Hopefully, she will come out of this a better person and realize she was hurting a lot of people. If you think about it Kristina has been making unlikeable decisions since Lexi was first cast like accusing Ethan of beating her.

I have no idea if I am just projecting, but I sorta see her as a Brenda-like character. Where you are so frustrated with her horrible decisions and selfishness and then she works her way out of it. A breakdown, a realization, almost anything could work. Kristina, IMO, is so hyper focused on the baby and in time will realize she is being absurd. It's unlikeable now, but I think Mansi has the ability to work her way around the material and make Kristina stronger and more rootable.

Honestly, with all the behind the scene changes it's super hard to tell. I could be absolutely wrong, but I think this selfishness with Kristina is intended. Her breaking up with Blaze, the custody papers, the fight with Ava, etc are going to go somewhere. I think Kristina will eventually have a moment of clarity where she figures out her life.

I assume the show is leaning into the narrative that Kristina is a flighty mess. I don't think we are supposed to sympathize with her in this moment. I think at some point she's going to realize she is being ridiculous and it will inspire some actual change within her. I also think the show knows Mansi can handle the material (even though she's not great with online hate) and KV needs a little boost as Molly to get the audience in her favor. Just my opinion of course.

It's such a weird idea because old viewers are thinking this is nothing like the Jagger we knew. And new viewers are like this guy is awful. Not excusing the Paul story because that was wild too, but Jagger's ties to the canvas were flimsy at best. Besides Sonny, he really only knew pre-brain damaged Jason and Scott. His other ties were more ties to ties of previous characters if that makes sense lol.

Well, yes. But, also, the LOL chuckle we got that a million people watch soaps everyday and Chanel was incredulous about that fact.

Lol! I honestly was like is that an "acting" route he's going with Abe? A pre-screen for the audition? He sounded like he was an extra from "The Town" today.

RSW's full Boston accent was on display today. I don't know who previously brought up his accent on here because I hardly noticed it. But today I was like "oh, got it".

Oh for sure. I will mostly think of ASJ's Jagger who was super hot, kinda dopey, but mostly a decent guy. There was no reason to bring Jagger back in the first place. Jagger's motivations were all off from the start. Hate Sonny because he's a criminal. Bringing Karen and Stone into this was mostly a moot point. Sonny was very good to Stone. He was awful to Karen, but Karen forgave Sonny and moved on with her life. Jagger cheating on her was probably a lot more hurtful lol. It's weird to take an FBI agent with real issues about Sonny and have Jagger make it about petty, personal things-and then make him crooked.

Ha! I will never agree with #PoorJagger unless we are talking about 1994's Jagger who was ruined by AH lol. I did laugh when Joss was threatening Ava like she would have thrown her out the window. Girl, Ava would have easily snapped you stupid neck. I thought today's show was really good. Kristina is being so selfish and I love Molly knows the truth now. I thought Tajh Bellow was very good today and I know he gets a lot of hate here.