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Well, Kim was Reva AND Pam was Reva. They both fought for her, fiercely, but there was no personal animosity. Kim tells of one time when a network exec vomited at lunch during a fight between her and Pam. But they made up by the time the check came. LOL

All this talk of Reva...and I’m missing her polar opposite, Holly, just as much. Here’s a great read on Holly Reade... https://1000worlds.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/holly-woman-of-heart-and-mind/amp/

I just want to know more about the Larry Bryggmann/Trent Dawson feud! LOL I’ve never understood why Austin Peck got fired and Terri Colombino did not. It takes two to tango. And why should anybody care? Was Mark Pinter fired because he was shtupping Colleen Zenk? I mean, Beth Ehlers would’ve been fired numerous times from GL for shagging costars!

Mitch, I agree. However, GL did position Reva and Harley as the two female leads for many years. Their alternating GL openings with each of them at the beginning is proof of that. I think Laura Wright’s Cassie was a strong third, but not Nicole Forester’s. Were both (all three) characters better as complicated women rather than straightforward heroines? Yes, of course, but every complex women on soaps eventually gets watered down, neutered. Any complexity in Reva or Harley was eventually down to the actresses. Contrast with Beth, who started as the most innocent of ingenues and eventually became a hot mess of repeat abuse victim, adulterer, conniver, kidnapper and so forth. That forgotten daughter with Alan sealed her coffin for me. Holly was always complex and fascinating, only sometimes a heroine. I choose to ignore her Stalker days. I never saw Vanessa as a heroine, even in the Matessa years. The non-Reva years are awesome. GL was perhaps the best ensemble on daytime. Many other shows suffered without their central female lead (DAYS without Marlena and Hope, for example). I don’t really like most of Reva’s post-return storylines. Amish. San Cristobel. Psychic Reva. Time-travelling Reva. Dolly. (I did like her with Pelphrey and I know that subject opens a whole ‘nother can of worms.) But I’m glad to see some support of Zimmer. She gets a lot of bashing online, even ten years later. She’s not Ellen Wheeler, people. Now, in defense of Justin Deas... Reva became her Mama. She wasn’t white fur-wearing Reva any longer. She wasn’t surburban Reva any more. She was never really Amish or a Princess. She became Sarah Shayne. As she should have. Life wore away all the artifice that Reva had built up over the years. Ultimately, she was a down-home gal who lived in places named Reva Bend and Cross Creek. She loved a cabin! (Josh and Billy also became less jet set and more good ol’ boys towards the end as well.) Reva would be the quintessential earth mama on GL 2020, advising and meddling in her kids’ and grandkids’ lives. It makes me sad to not be able watch Reva with Marah, Shayne, Dylan, Jonathan, Colin (although best forgotten), Henry, Sarah, Peter and any others that have come along since then. I just miss her.

Hey, I love Kimmer but we all know she has an ego and she knows how to play to the fans. Nothing wrong with that..its cutthroat out there. She didn’t in 1986. I can only speak of my in-person interactions with her. She was extremely gracious when we toured the studio the next year. Maybe she was playing to the fans, but I just saw a really friendly person.

I had the opportunity to interview both Kim and Colleen locally in North Carolina back in 1986. Kim was REAL and a total joy. No ego. No diva behavior. Invited me and my friends to tour the set when we visited NYC. I absolutely loved her. I still do. Colleen backed out of her interview because I observed that she was ALL OVER Mark Pinter. I knew that Colleen Zenk CROUCH was married. So I asked her innocently if they were together (because the candid photos I took all weekend proved that they were). That was the end of our interview and she came off badly in my article, sorry to say. I’m sorry about her recent family tragedy and her other trials, but she did little to endear me over the years after that. I’m team Hugo Napier. Team Jackie Schultz. Team Hillary B. Smith. That’s all I’m sayin’.

Yes! Thank you. I was drawing a blank on anyone other than Miss Ellie on DALLAS.

It’s more like what DIDN’T she say about EW. EW cried. ALOT. She was apparently scared whenever Kim went upstairs to confront her. Kim alternately trashes her and sees that she was in way over her head in Kim’s book. Kim refused to go to Biloxi to rebuild houses because she believed the audience wanted to see Reva, not Kim. She agreed to go when EW told her that the footage would be used as a web series only, not on CBS network broadcast. Then it was. EW wanted to “reboot” the show by starting over from Zero, wiping the slate clean. THE NEW GUIDING LIGHT would’ve allegedly kept the actors and characters but “reset” them without so much baggage. Kim’s book is vague on the specifics but comic books and movie series do this all the time now. Certainly, GL could’ve lived without some of its convoluted past (Reva giving away TWO children being just one example, but also every other adult woman on the show—Vanessa, Olivia, Alexandra, Jenna, Selena—also two!—and so on). It’s not a bad idea, really, but Kim hated it. It didn’t happen, obviously. Peapack. No elaboration necessary. OK, a little—the lack of dressing rooms (Kim got caught naked in a bank restroom by a fan, although why she didn’t lock the door...”Reva! It’s good to SEE you!”). And Reva and Jeffrey’s declaration of love was poorly edited and scored so that all the audience saw was a waving flag. She notes that she wasn’t fired or even admonished for her weight gain. Patti D’Arbanville was not as lucky a few years prior. Kim doesn’t say that, but SOD did in a blind item when it happened. Anyway, Kim felt that a female producer was possibly more understanding of this. But she preferred male bosses and Rauch was her favorite. Her book is good with a few minor errors that a good editor who knew soaps should’ve caught. EW was on AW before and after AMC. And was Lillian really the first character on daytime with a breast cancer storyline? It certainly wasn’t in 1980 though. Kim HATED Josh and Cassie. So did we.

Mitch, I agree. However, GL did position Reva and Harley as the two female leads for many years. Their alternating GL openings with each of them at the beginning is proof of that. I think Laura Wright’s Cassie was a strong third, but not Nicole Forester’s. Were both (all three) characters better as complicated women rather than straightforward heroines? Yes, of course, but every complex women on soaps eventually gets watered down, neutered. Any complexity in Reva or Harley was eventually down to the actresses. Contrast with Beth, who started as the most innocent of ingenues and eventually became a hot mess of repeat abuse victim, adulterer, conniver, kidnapper and so forth. That forgotten daughter with Alan sealed her coffin for me. Holly was always complex and fascinating, only sometimes a heroine. I choose to ignore her Stalker days. I never saw Vanessa as a heroine, even in the Matessa years. The non-Reva years are awesome. GL was perhaps the best ensemble on daytime. Many other shows suffered without their central female lead (DAYS without Marlena and Hope, for example). I don’t really like most of Reva’s post-return storylines. Amish. San Cristobel. Psychic Reva. Time-travelling Reva. Dolly. (I did like her with Pelphrey and I know that subject opens a whole ‘nother can of worms.) But I’m glad to see some support of Zimmer. She gets a lot of bashing online, even ten years later. She’s not Ellen Wheeler, people. Now, in defense of Justin Deas...

And she was PERFECT as Lizzie. I loved her. Kim also still gets a raw deal for not taking that pay cut, one year into a three year contract. Hey, a contract is a contract. She stood her ground and won. Apparently, others didn’t and lost. It’s not her responsibility to negotiate other actors’ deals. And those people would’ve been taken off contract anyway. Liz K, Beth C, Yvonna...they all worked for years after that, until the end. Jerry ver Dorn was a huge loss, but that’s not on Kim.

He was a teenager on ATWT playing a difficult alcoholism story. Perhaps he wasn’t up to the gay storyline as well. As an adult now, I’m sure he can make different decisions. Perhaps he regrets not playing Luke’s coming out. Perhaps not. Zimmer is sure getting a lot of crap on here but y’all know she WAS GL for many years, like it or not. I happen to like it. Every soap has one or two central heroines, and on GL, it was Reva, and Harley from the 80’s onward.

Jessica Tuck’s character was apparently watching 1983 AMC last night on LITTLE FIRES EVERYWHERE. That is Daisy, no?

Great minds think alike, buddy! I really missed Borelli on daytime. She was great on FALCON CREST and in her brief role as Barbara Van Arkdale on AW, but she deserved another showstopper role like Reena.

I cracked up when nobody could remember Signy Coleman’s name! “Sit DOWN, Josh!” I wonder if Pam Long’s former TEXAS co-star Carla Borelli (Reena) was considered for Reva. She would’ve been great.

RIP Paula Kelly (ex-Ginger) https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Broadway-and-Film-Actress-Paula-Kelly-Dies-at-76-20200209

I was agreeing with you: you simply have to look for her. But she’s always in something.

Tunie is EVERYWHERE. You just have to look for her. There’s so much TV these days. She was on DIETLAND last year and on ALMOST FAMILY currently. Neither show was great, but she’s always great.

Dear God, she’s back.

Trent Dawson (Henry) is on episode 7 of season 3 of THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL. He’s quite recognizable.

Kelli Barrett (Maddie #2) is on this week’s DYNASTY as Nadia.

I’d forgotten that Dr. Ed Bauer had moved to Henderson...

Alison Hirschlag was the first teen Lizzie and she was VERY good, not silly at all, even though her curly hair often had me thinking that visually she should’ve been Tammy. That mane was identical to Cassie’s. Unfortunately, she chose to leave after a short term and Lizzie went back to boarding school, to return as suicidal firestarter Crystal Hunt.

I’m on the floor! LMAO. Get behind me, Satan!

There’s only one choice for Alexis and that’s Zoe Lucker. I’m sure Joan would approve.

Lorie and Leslie were definitely referring to their late father when they appeared in the anniversary episodes in the past year. A building was being named at GCU to commemorate him.