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It hasn't been, no. Her area looks disorganized but she knows where everything is. Papers everywhere. Letters everywhere. Post-it notes everywhere. Looks cluttery but she knows where it all is. She does use "uhhhm" a lot but she's strangely articulate. Everytime I call her I learn 4 new words that I never heard before. Her great articulation is mostly in the way she pounces her words. She's a master at raising her volume, stretching words, contracting words when needed. If you define Doc from "Back to the Future" as flighty, you will be right. There is a 'mad scientist' streak (in a good way) to her. But, if you listen to Mel Blanc in an interview you can kinda hear all his characters at the same time. Being with Kay is the same, mostly with the female characters. You can sense a 'Victor Newman" in her when she is being harrased by bill collectors and scam artists on the phone. Or when she is angry about [someome]. One thing I did find funny is that she said from 1974 to the time she left Bold she hadn't had time to grocery shop. When she did grocery shop the first time, for the first time in 40 years, she was amazed by how much had changed. Like, produce having barcodes on them. Or how high-tech ot all is now. It's now her favourite thing in the world to do.

It was a quick rise to that position. At some point in the 70s Bill went on vacay and on vacay his dad died. Between the start of the vacay and the end of the aftermath of his dad's death she was flying the solo. It was like 3 months or so. I think that was 1976. She did work with Bill on certain things like researching the breast cancer story Elizabeth Hollower was also more of an active writer. Bill and Kay loved her eccentricity and basically had her write the Kay/Jill scenes back in the 80s. I THINK she wrote the dream sequences (don't quote me on that). But the hour expansion really did a number on all of them. It was so much work but it was just them two plus Jack Smith. Bill never got over loosening the original characters though. the 'girl friday' was true lol. She logged the fanmail and kept track of guarantees. He HATED clerical work -- he just wanted to be a writer. One thing was that Bill sometimes had issues with not realizing if story could send off a bad message. She was there from the get-go to point things out to Bill if something could translate to the audience in a bad way. As a human, Kay is great. She buys all her clothes at Walgreens. She's a bit like Esther as she's into healthy stuff and organic products and so-forth. She dramatic (and over the top) like Jill but she LOVES being with youth and loves helping others. She even took on a homeless family due a few years, single mom and 3 school age kids. The youngest is special needs. She helped raise them for a while as the mom got her feet on the ground. She actively stays in-tune with the current trends -- even music. She listens to ALL the latest recording artists and ALL genres. Same with TV shows. She thinks Shitz Creek is a perfect 'comedy soap'. She also likes South Park lol But, yeah, she reads the various pop-culture mags and stuff to understand the youth.

This was in an old folder of hers that was dedicated to Brock. This is one of like 30 pages of, what they called, "Brockisms". She and Elizabeth Hollower found and typed them. Sometimes they made them up. Kay's parents, also, sent her a devotional book (also in the file) for this. She said his purpose became to be the moral compass of the show.

I talked to her about this a few nights ago. She said nobody knew if Brock had actually been 'redeemed'. She said it depended on the actor. Had it been someone like Terry Lester, Brock would have been faking his redemption.

Kay did tell me that, yes, it was the Midwestern audience that reacted strongly. She gave me a lot of little fun stories about the earlier years that I should share. But, some of it is supposed to be hidden. One thing she did say is that, early on, she was assigned to log fan mail. She confirmed that the people who thought the show was real weren't putting on an act. Something about the writing of the mail pieces showed clear mental illness. She and Bell would, when she first started, spend half an hour or so outlining a script by having a piece of legal pad that was divided in 5 rows and 5 columns. They would fill in a row, after brainstorming for that half hour or so, and then she'd write a few acts and he'd write a few acts. When Jack Smith came in 1979 they divided it in 3 ways. When they knew there was going to be multiple episodes in a row that featured a hot climax one of them would dedicate to those scenes for all those episodes all at once as to know loose the flow of suspense/intrigue.

Regarding the Katherine/Joann story. Kay Alden told me that she had a friend who worked for the show that functioned as a creative consultant of sorts. They used her to read current publications to keep a 'pulse' on the current times. She read a story in Cosmo regarding lesbianism and that is what led to Kay/Joann. Alden told me that the studio called them as a specific scene happened. Basically, there was a 'meaningful glance' between the two and one of them touched the other on the shoulder. The studio said that they could see the ratings crash and burn on some device. In fact, they lost a great deal of viewers and they didn't return for several months. But after that call, they had to end it. They both agreed to never try to do that again -- largely due to the the chunks of horrible letters they got from the fans.

And so where was this find?

Has this been posted? It's a video seminar WITH the Dobsons from a few months ago.

I mean, that is one was we differ LOL I HATED CLAUDIA/DIANA. I usually don't hate characters, which is odd. I think it was the way she was played? Remember the actress who played "Annie" on the pilot? If she played Diana I would have loved it. But I do remember feeling shew as on the way out when she got the haircut that made her look like a beaver with an afro.. off topic but why is 'afro' being flagged by spellcheck?

What did people think of her portyal? Was she still in-character here? Could it be imagined that Bev's Iris would come to that point?

I'm a gaymer, yeah. I need to get Resident Evil 8 soon. @SoapsudsI'm hoping to get a gaming PC just so I can play the Resident Evil 2 mod in which Leon is nude! Mostly, I've been playing the basics like Fallout 1 and 2. And various FPS games like Quake. Did you play Duke Nukem Forever? I played 3d DAILY when I was a kid

Now I wonder how much of what I hated that happened on her shows was actually her doing.

That film really fucked me up.

I"d like a soap to show the journey to one as a mass shooter. Maybe a Collumbine type where one is a sociopath who 'transforms' another as a shooter. While also showing the tragedy of those affected.

Wait. Guza had more control than JFP? How the hell was that? Who said that!

At that point? Maybe some other model like Brooke Shields. Famous but if you didn't care about fashion you wouldn't have known who she was.

I know this isn't the DOOL thread but I felt that Bill Bell fans, who don't go there, would get a kick out of what I did post there. I had no idea Bill Bell had liberal ideas about gun control. This is from a 1976 DOOL bible

I forgot to add the image. Also, this is the same bible in which everyone finds out Mike is Bill's kid. In the beginning, Bill states that he always believed that a son always got his dad's blood type and a daughter always got her mom's blood type -- and that the blood type was always going to be how everyone was going to figure this out. He then states that his medical consultant told him what actually happens. Me mentions how he (grudgingly) had to rewrite what he dreamed as the ending for the story. Originally, the doctor was going to ask for Mickey's blood and it wasn't going to be a match. Instead, both parents blood had to be drawn. It appears Bill Bell became afraid that people would think the ending will be contrived. I'll post that within the week -- I'm busy with my new job.

I had no idea Bill Bell had liberal ideas about gun control. This is from a 1976 DOOL bible

I think it was the lighting, to be honest. I think only Conboy could do dark lighting without making it look that way. REMEMBER though: CRT screens were brighter and hid some of the artifacts you see on those later episodes.

And I'm saying you are likely right -- it was meant to speak TO the audience.

I've read several outlines and projections written by Bell and Aggie and they have it specifically stated, with scenes like this, that '[insert character] is speaking TO the audience as she speaks to [insert character].'

He did lol

Bill called everyone "Honey" -- even men. He even called his two sons "Honey".

Well, Kay had a friend named Suzanne whom they employed to research things that were current. She would read all the hip magazines and feed Bill and Kay stuff that could work as storyline. She read an article in Cosmo that was about lesbians and that was how the idea of Joanne/Kay was born. Bill and Kay were shocked by the hate mail and the (very sharp) ratings decline when, all that happened, was meaningful eye contact as Kay put her hand on Joanne's shoulder. Literally, at that moment, the phone rang and it took MONTHS for the ratings to rebound. Bill agreed to not try that again EVER because of how devastating it was. On that note, Bill was very devastated when he was forced to expand to an hour and entered a depression. I asked Kay about the years from 1980-1982. She said it was a nightmare because they weren't prepared. She told me that she loved working with H Wesley Kenny but I asked if Wes ever had sway in story. She told me that, by then, she and Bill were very much a co-hw'ng team and he wouldn't have allowed Wes (or anyone else) to control him. The network would call Bill for scripts and Bill would say, "You will get them when they air". A lot of Bill's ego was due to Irna though. Irna would keep the man from, like, 8am to 8pm. Soon after, Irna would call and keep him for, sometimes, 4 hours. He would tell her he was eating with his family but she flat out didn't care. Lee told Kay that Irna was a bully and the whole time would trash his talent and trash him over the phone. The last thing, however, that Irna told Bill (after the fallout) was "You will never be a success because your life is too normal". Once, Bill and Kay were eating as a restaurant and Agnes walked by. Bill stood up and introduced the two of them and flat out told Agnes, "She's my protege. I'm giving her the show when I retire".