Everything posted by Soaplovers
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
RHONY Brynn at the rare book store in this episode, playing chess in a previous episode, and talking about her grandma with her brother... I wish she would show more of this to everyone instead of trying to do a 2023 variation of Samantha Jones. And I think in regards to her previous fiances, I have a feeling it's a 'runaway bride' situation where she's pretending to like what the guy likes instead of actually being herself with them. Seeing her at the book store, it made me think 'I would like hanging out with this girl'. Jessel is so Alex McCord... it isn't funny. And I admit I kind of wish we had seen the scene of her with her twins during the music session. The producers could have had Jessel saying how wonderful and educational this musical experience would for her boys.. and then cut to scenes of the boys running around away from the group with Jessel chasing them. Erin and hubby... there is something going on in that marriage.. and this week further shows that. I don't know exactly what is going on.. but something is off with them. Sai and Jessel I guess aren't going to be bonding this week.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Ah..no wonder her early weeks were so choppy...the writers hadn't fully formed her character yet. I think the mistake later writers did with Cass/Frankie was make them too serious without the quirky/comedic elements that made them appealing. You had baby Charlie with her health ailments, Cass' mental health issues, Cass' becoming gullible to believe Maggie was his daughter, Frankie feeling less than because she couldn't have a 2nd baby, etc. It was no wonder focus groups in 1996 were not so keen on Frankie. I read that Joe/Frankie were also written to be co detectives like Ryan/Frankie were...but I have a feeling that buddy pairing wasn't as successful...and instead of viewing Joe as the problem...Frankie got the blame.
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Another World Discussion Thread
The only actress I think could have played Donna and put her spin on it was the actress that had played Diane Ballard on GL. She had the more controlled/upper class vibe that AS had.. but I think she could have put her own spin on Donna. I've always thought Pilece should have played Nicole, but I thought Ms Howard did as well she could with an underwritten character like Nicole. It would have been interesting had Nicole stayed on the show for the remaining year of her contract.. and co-existed with Cass/Frankie. The awkward interactions at big events, but als in a separate orbit dealing with her family dramas. In fact.. I could have seen Michael turning to her vs Stacy after the Mikey custody situation. The show had hinted at something between Nicole/Michael when that brief recast played her.
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Another World Discussion Thread
So I've watching some early 1989 and I've come to Frankie's early episodes. What a bitch..so unlikable. I'm glad the writing and actress softened the character over time. It did make me wonder why the show just didn't have her play Molly Ordway instead instead of creating a new character? She had the same type of relationship with Emma that Molly did..and was kind of a troublemaker as well.
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Y&R vet returning
You can't celebrate Lauralee's 40th anniversary and not have Nina back so I'm glad TPTB also realized that.
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
8 is too many. 6 is the magic number where we can get a nice balance of individual vignettes and group scenes. Potomac needs to be deducting housewives, not adding to the stale numbers. RHOSLC: Monica is just pure trash... good for housewives, but certainly someone I wouldn't be friends in real life. I certainly wouldn't trust her with anyone married or my significant other. Lisa is all about Lisa.. and tonight I was understood what Monica was saying and agreed with Monica.. though I do think Monica is projecting her insecurities onto Lisa. Actually.. she and Lisa are more alike then either would like to admit. Whitney... you may have gotten some coaching from Candiace.. but you're still in the reading people for beginners class. Angie K... makes me wonder why Angie H isn't there instead LOL Heather has the best talking heads especially during the team building scenes at the park LOL
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2023 Writers + Actors Strike Thread
Wish Ron would be fired...maybe once he's back for a bit..he'll be let go.
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2023 Writers + Actors Strike Thread
After how the WGA was screwed in the 1985 writer strike, it makes sense they stuck to their guns on this one. The reason for the 1985 strike was due to compensation for home video sales.. and the WGA agreed to a low ball deal because it was 'untested market'. And with streaming being so popular and the go to for people now, it was harder for the Production companies to pull the 'untested' argument.
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Moonlighting FINALLY Coming To Streaming on Hulu!
I think I only got season 1/2 and 3 on DVD... the best seasons and didn't opt to buy season 4 or 5 because of the sub-standard quality of the episodes. Turning into a soap in season 4 was not a good mood when the best part of the show were the cases and how either David or Maddie would figure out that one element that helped them solve the case. And I did love the Agnes Dipesto focused episodes
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Characters Without a Fanbase
When he was with Gillian..he did. I think once she was written out of the show..people gradually grew disillusioned with him.
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2023 Writers + Actors Strike Thread
People were mad at the soap actors for working even though they were on a different contract, plus shows with completed scripts were picketed.....could u imagine what the union would say if the Daytime Emmy's attempted to happen?
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Chances of writing changes after the writer strike ends?
I don't know if GH would get rid of their headwriters once the strike is officially over. I could see GH probably keeping whoever was handling the breakdown writing and script writers because they're the ones that have a hand with pacing, etc. Also.. maybe because the strike was going on.. maybe the network left the scab writers alone so anything they wrote/decided on didn't have to go through hoops to get approved.
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Dark Shadows Discussion Thread
I also had read that she was planning to go back to Dark Shadows but the show was canceled before the writers could figure out how to bring her back. My theory would have been a PT story either in the past or in the present with the character.
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Love of Life Discussion Thread
It's always fun to see soap performers in earlier soap roles.. and Peggy is no exception. Her take on Van is somewhat different then the following 2 actresses.. but I also remember her Van played most of the content pre-dating most of her marriage to Paul and Bruce (I think Bonnie Bartlett played Van when she/Paul were trying to adopt, his crazy ex wife Judith terriorizing them.. and the start of Van/Bruce).
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Bravo's The Real Housewives of....
RHONY: Sai needs to be the comic relief... she's funny especially in her talking heads. Jessel keeps a notebook on things people say to her and how she feels about it. I will say if you're going to hold a grudge, I guess you need to keep things written down for reference. Erin vs Ubah.. both were wrong. Twitter seems to hate Erin.. but Twitter (X) usually is the place where the extremely emotional go to vent. Jenna played the whole retreat and act all shy/innocent... I'm sure Andy and co paid top dollar for her and she needs to deliver or she's a one and done. Brynn seems likable... but she needs to be herself instead of acting like a Samantha Jones carbon copy. And I've heard many a people stumble with pre-med once they hit that Chemistry class so she isn't alone there.
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Dark Shadows Discussion Thread
From what I understood the actress that played Laura would only play that character... so I'm guessing that when the show wanted to use the actress for the 1897 story.. they had to make her character Laura instead of a different character is my theory. I think that in the 1967 story, that Laura had been reborn every 100 years or so and that there had been women named Laura recorded in past history that had burned in a fire.. but none of them had married into the Collins family before Roger.
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Primetime Soaps
I always remembered SOD included Sisters in the ratings round-up for primetime soaps of the 90s... but I do agree that SOD didn't cover any of the 90s prime time soaps like they did with the 80s ones. They might have had a blurb about Sisters, and some of the other short lived shows.. but not to the extent of the 80s ones. Melrose Place becoming successful did spur on a mini revival of the genre in the 90s.. but the majority of them didn't catch on because of either the timeslot, bad writing, etc.
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The Kylie Minogue Thread
I'm happy with her newest creation that dropped in the states on the 22nd My personal fav from the new album
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2023 Writers + Actors Strike Thread
AI is not to be trusted.. and I see all loopholes being closed when it comes to that... from both the WGA and SAG unions before deals are finalized. Though I think for SAG unions, I'm guessing they wouldn't mind AI being used as much if they're compensated anytime AI images of performers is used vs just a one time payout. So it looks as though even though evil Ron C plotted out the holidays that perhaps the scab writers will be the ones to work on the scripts for those episodes. To me, day to day is just as important as the actual storyline.
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Another World Discussion Thread
I remember in 1990/1 a San Francisco station dropped AW...and KRON picked it up. SOD had a section at year end showing which affiliates dropped a soap...and I recall AW, SB, and Loving were usually listed as having affiliates dropping the show. In fact, GL was in danger of having the affiliate in SF drop them hence the show sending Nick/Mindy to SF in late 1991 and having their scenes filmed there as an attempt to not be dropped by the SF station airing the show.
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Back from the dead - The good, the bad, & the ugly
Thatt 2 or 3 week marlena back from the dead arc helped make Days #2 during those weeks in the ratings. Had the show not insisted on bringing Wayne Northrop back and doing the 2 Roman's story...the rating increase might have stuck..imho What I loved about Roger's back from the dead story was that it proved that people behind the scenes could work together if motivated. Pam long was figuring out what to do with Blake (introduced during the strike) plus rumor had itthe show was trying to get Zaslow to play a recast Alan. Once it was pointed out he was known for playing Roger..Nancy Curlee gave the idea to Pam Long to bring Roger back from the dead. Long and Calhoun did say they kept watching Rogers death scene to see if it was plausible and both concluded no one saw/heard Roger hit the ground nor saw him dead at the bottom. I do know Curlee didn't like the Adam Malik arc nor the wedding arc so I'm guessing that was Long's idea...but it worked because Roger was a character that it made sense to do that with.
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Y&R September 2023 Discussion Thread
Writer strike...usually happens when scab episodes first start...but maybe it's a new thing till the strike ends.
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Primetime Soaps
She was in season 1 of Savannah as Peyton's mom.. and that was a departure from the usual character type (she became unhinged somewhat). I will say Homefront was the best place to showcase that character variation... with good writing and character development.
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Coronavirus/Covid-19 Discussion Thread
Wear a mask if you want to or don't wear a mask if you choose not to. Mandates really aren't necessary nowadays.
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Loving/The City Discussion Thread
Had All my Children debuted in the 80s instead of 1970, Roya Megnot would have played Erica Kane. She has that vibe, yet she has an earnest vibe that made her a unique presence. While the episodes are beautifully shot, there seems to not been anything to set it apart from other soaps. There seems to be more of a Have focus in these episodes as opposed to the Have nots. Dorothy Stinnette.. she was Raven's mom on Edge of Night. She's an interesting choice to play Rose considering the original Rose was warmer. Perhaps she was cast as a way to make the character of Rose different then Kate Rescott. While in the two episodes that Noreen was in, I can see why the actress playing her said that her crying at her audition after being yelled at by Joe Stuart was good practice.. because she cried in both episodes she was in. James Kiberd was kind of hot in the mid 80s.. and it was nice to see early Shana. Shana is basically the answer to my question about how Cecile would have fared if Susan Keith kept playing her instead of being recast with Nancy F. Shana had the same elements/essence of her Cecile. Lorna was not used to her full potential.. though I loved how she was used in these episodes. Gwyn in 1985 was restless, unsatisfied and using sex appeal to get what she wants... and knowing what happened to her in 1995.. we see some elements of what she'll become in these 1985 episodes.