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I watched the other clip. That was an awful thing to say to Margo. She should have laid into Hal.

I’ve been trying to watch as much vintage OLTL as possible. Sometimes characters people rave about kind of fall flat when you actually get to see them. Karen Wolek is not one of them. It’s not just the court room scene, which is way over the top. She’s great in every scene I have managed to watch. So is Marco Dane, who I only really remembered from his late 80’s stint on OLTL and GH in the early 90’s. i really wish these networks would figure out a way to let us watch their vintage material. I would love to watch her entire storyline unfold (once Judith Light arrives), and Jenny’s too. Not to mention Carla. I remember Larry as the beloved doctor. It’s cool to see him in a leading man role. He’s handsome. Brad Vernon is too, but I know he is a bastard.

F*ck Missy Reeves. Jennifer used to be a favorite, but she can be written right out and go make training videos for Chick Fil A.

His side is going to work overtime to spin no matter what caused his audience disruption. I also saw AOC and others commenting that this was a small way for those fans that are not old enough to vote to demonstrate they don’t want him or his politics. A form of protest. The media will look to any way to keep this a story, so with or without the Fox spin there were going to be days of justifications. The main thing for me is that nobody was outside either. The overrun crowd didn’t exist. It’s a failure on many levels.

I am physically ill reading this.

I have some faith from these images that many people (not including the ones that played him for tickets with no intention of showing up) that follow him do seem to be taking the pandemic seriously, and are avoiding crowds no matter what his team says about COVID. Which means they are questioning him. And the tweet about the attacks not working as well this time because Biden is not as good a target as Clinton are correct from what I have seen and heard from my conservative relatives. Fox News has spent 20 years solid painting Hillary as their big bad, only breaking from her at times to target Obama with racist attacks. Biden is a newish target for them compared to the other two, doesn’t seem to generate the same conspiracy mania, and even though he has demonstrated legit concerns over the years they are more nuanced to turn into topics and haven’t had as much time to get their people in a mania about them. It’s not like Fox is going to spend much time on Anita Hill in a sympathetic light to condemn Biden, for example.

There were lots of times they dipped below other shows, but they still had high enough numbers for the year to be number one. Challengers didn’t dethrone them for the season until Y&R later in the 80’s. There were plenty of great characters still doing interesting things- especially the Quartermaines. It’s just interesting to me that the show’s success survived such an awful year story wise and great characters being replaced by bland ones. Laura Templeton was no Laura Spencer.

I was watching a bunch of 1982 eps on YouTube, and I started thinking about the show at that moment. How did they stay at number 1 for the year, and how did their ratings not completely collapse that year? I don’t mean the logical settling after the wedding of Luke and Laura. Their ratings stayed really high anyway, and other soaps had good stuff going on, it’s not like now when they are all bad. Between 1981 and 1982, they lost so many characters that drove major story- Diana, Jeff and Laura to name a few. The major plot of David Grey is also incredibly stupid, and there are a lot of bland new characters all of a sudden. People must have really loved Luke and Robert.

She certainly plays fast and loose with a lot of her facts. I do think there is an incredible TV show there though. Her family life, starting to write at her parents show, GH, and continuing on to Santa Barbara. Lots of rich material there to make a great show out of.

I find them incredibly obnoxious. So your comment made me smile!

Yeah, I’m excited to get to Acapulco. I just had no idea Chelsea was on this much. And so far the first 4 months of 1990 have not been great for Ed and Maureen. They have very little to do. I have watched way more of 1991-1993, and while I can see some of Nancy Curlee’s tendencies, it’s still not quite what we get in just a few more months to a year from then.

I decided to go back further than my original Curlee starting point, so I started a 1990 GL playlist on YouTube. I’m in April now. I had no idea Kassie DePaiva was such a central character. I am in the middle of “The Fan” stalking storyline. She is on all the time. I never hear people talk about Chelsea. Kassie is fine, if a little bland. She shows nothing of the power she would bring to Blair. Her boyfriend is so bland. This is also the only time I have found Frank compelling on his own, not just because of the women in his life. I also had never seen Carl Evans as Alan-Michael. He’s pretty cute and fun in the role with Harley and Blake. But Hearst is better. I just saw some great scenes with Dylan and Reva. And this is clearly a period of time where we are building to her leaving. Blake is even more fun here than later, when she is all passion, wounded and out for blood.

He has Stephen Miller. And if anyone would have a page a day discrimination reminder calendar with 365 pages of trolling marginalized people on their desk it’s that scumbag.

Absolutely disgusting. I used to say I was 100% pro union. But these police unions and the protections their contracts have built into them have got to go.

It really was shocking, even for longtime fans who had seen Nikki Smith, when she went into all those different alters. Jean was calculating, Tommy rage. I also remember watching and being afraid for Dorian. There were moments where it felt like Viki was capable of really hurting her theough one of her alters. I loved that story. And yes, I know it was a huge retcon. But it was a good one. So much lead up to it. Sloan, the book, Joey, their feud. All these pieces of Viki’s life were broken and she was in a lot of anger and pain. Malone’s first stint was really good.

Could not agree more.

When was the last time any of these shows had that many black characters that were actually important to the entire fabric of the show? Generations? In so many ways, the period of time with the Loving Murders (leading into The City), is some of the most modern storytelling I have seen on any of these soaps. It’s feels more like the primetime element the networks, especially ABC are always chasing, and they already had it!

On a half hour show no less!

I think part of the issue with Beverlee was that there was no end in sight for a storyline she did not want to play anymore- Alex as angry and fighting with Mindy and fighting for Nick’s attention. From everything I have read and seen, Mark was pretty much in the same Roger/Nick/Mindy orbit that McKinsey wanted out of. She did not appear to enjoy working with Zaslow, and hated how Alex was behaving. I haven’t gotten to much of Marj in my Guiding Light YouTube binging just yet. I had planned to stop with Curlee’s departure, but now I am curious about Brent/Marian. As much as I love what the writers had been doing, it’s pretty clear that had she stayed it would have been more of the same for Alex.

There wasn’t a sign at one of those protests you were at explaining this? White privilege doesn’t mean your life hasn’t been hard- it means your life isn’t hard because of being white. I am also gay. We are a marginalized group. However, there is no comparison to the experiences of POC. And we have members of our own community that are facing the normal homophobia and transphobia while also fighting against racism. And white gays have systemically ignored or brushed aside our own people that need our support. I watched several interviews with Ellen Holly this week. My perspective has changed on her. I always believed her, but she seemed to be unhealthy about her past. Now I think- How would I feel if I had been treated unfairly at so many times during formative years in my life and career? It would be hard to not be broken or angry, or both.

CK just doesn’t bring anything to the table does she? I would have loved that! Anything to bring her back and let her play layered material, even in this current soap climate.

I would live to see her get to play an amnesia storyline where Dru has a different family even, just to see the story of integrating all aspects of her life together again when she begins to remember. Great way to use flashbacks to reintroduce her to newer viewers as well. Scenes of her dancing, with Neil, with Olivia! I can already see her remembering Neil and then also what they have lost with it being too late to see him again.

When she left was the beginning of the era of network suits making creative decisions for their shows in a way they never had before. They wanted to dictate story and make major creative decisions in ways that wasn’t normal up to that point. It had to be difficult to love a story or a character and be told by a network suit that they just don’t like it so nix it. And I think JFP is very aware of network politics. Her GH is nothing of not everything Frons wanted daytime to be. In that great interview in this site with Curlee, she mentions resentment about the way she was “handled“ towards the end. I have an interpretation of that to be possibly the kind of thing that makes you never want to deal with network politics again.

Funny to think about now- Monty and Marland told Genie and her father that they wanted to use her to grab a younger audience. And she was front burner from there until she left after the wedding, often in very challenging material for anyone, let alone a woman younger than 18. So they wanted that audience but they did not fill Laura’s life up with peers her own age- she dated Scotty, dealt with David, her mother, Rick and Monica, Bobbie and Luke. Nobody her own age except Amy was a major factor in her early years. I have a lot of empathy for Genie, you can clearly see when she talks about it that while she loved the actual work, the rest was very difficult. Maybe if she had an actual teen scene like they do now she would have felt less alone and the show wouldn’t have written her into so many problematic stories.

I think her relationship to the show makes sense. People are complicated. She should be able to criticize Sony and Y&R, while also wanting to have a job there. She clearly loved Drucilla. She knows the character is important there and when best used is driving story, which means more time for her to act and be paid well while doing it. I am sure without Kristoff she has less interest, but also a job is a job when you have need and desire for steady income.