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It's similar to the last Edge opening in just feeling very wrong for the show, although I think I'd like it more if they had more of the veteran characters and not such a McCleary overload. They seemed to do a hatchet job on Liza. The guest turn toward the end of the episode was a real surprise. Jacqueline Schultz's hair would put your eye out.

I don't think this one was up before, was it?

You can't take your eyes off her. I'm surprised Rauch let her get away - then again she isn't a blonde. Is it me or is there a big difference in tone between the late '87 and early '89 videos? It was a little hard to watch the 1993 episode because I kept thinking of all the wasted potential with Angela, with breaking up Rachel and Kevin and firing the wonderful Kirk Geiger, but I appreciated getting to see more of Carol Swift. Her scene with Nora was very powerful. (Nora's meltdown at the end didn't quite work for me but I got the idea) And I always enjoy seeing more of Christopher Cousins and Karen Witter. They had such a spark and their performances were always strong.

Thanks for finding that. I think I have some of those somewhere. I had no idea they were based on ideas for the show. I didn't care for the last episodes at all; I wish we'd gotten another season for a fresh start.

That's wonderful. I'm sure that made Shelly feel good right now.

I think they might one more time, but after that I don't think they would.

If the EU doesn't agree to another extension, then the UK crashes out on October 31 with no deal. If they agree to another extension, then I think Parliament will vote on the deal in a few months. The idea is generally that if the vote is held now Johnson's plan will pass. I was reading about an MP who is being called "their" Lindsey Graham (only she is in Labour, not even a Tory) as she has overnight become an ardent Brexit supporter, even more than many Tories. And people are speculating it's because she recently joined a think tank with many hardline Tories. I guess our countries still have such self-serving corruption, allegedly, in common.

@Bright Eyes

It's difficult for Republicans to get elected in Hawaii. That's why you have quite a few 'conservadems,' like Ed Case. Many liberals were seething when he got his old seat back last year. That news about Pete Buttigieg is not a surprise. He is on the rise, somewhat, in Iowa, but probably not enough to win. Even if he does Iowa is probably the end of the line for him. He's going to get a very good job in some tech company, think tank, or cable news channel, and never go back into politics.

Thanks. The music cue at 20 or so minutes into the 1989 episode is just gorgeous. Who was the music director at this time? Did they win any Emmys? The story of the brotherly feud and the arrival of unstable Austin Buchanan would have been compelling if they hadn't made him a complete psycho, and a rapist on top of that. Max did such a number on Megan with pushing her to be with him when he clearly loved Gabrielle more. At least it helped viewers warm to Megan, I guess, but what a pig. Shelley Burch was such a treasure as Delilah. I wish they'd done more with her in this stint.

Just gutwrenching. If only this was an actual end to our "forever wars" then we could try to claim a lesson has been learned, but it's not. Too much money to be made and in Trump's case, too many debts being collected. So the Canadian elections are today. From most projects it looks like the Liberals will have a minority government. Here's a good article on how nothing seems to be happening, to the point of ignoring real problems in Canada. https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/21/canada-election-political-challenges-052249

Thanks for finding these. This Rauch era is pretty entertaining, even if he hollowed out the show.

Until Brexit I would have agreed. Not sure now. Scotland also seems to have had hatred for the Tories for generations but it doesn't keep them out of power - I guess they will likely be leaving the UK within the next 4-5 years anyway, unless something changes. I wasn't trying to compare the UK to the US, if that was how my post came across.

What was the link? Sorry for asking.

Johnson still has the backing of most of the UK's most powerful papers, and has some type of common man appeal that eludes me. The other parties are as broken and divided as the Tories are, with Corbyn extremely unpopular and the Liberal Democrats still not trusted because of their past coalition government with the Tories. If there's an election, there's a pretty strong chance Johnson will win. The best to hope for is he will continue to trip over his own arrogance to the point where they get another divided government and the left-wing parties can cobble something together. That would depend on Labour and the Lib Dems ceasing their cold war.

One of my favorite Youtube channels has put up a fair amount of material from the incredibly toxic 1988 election, which did permanent damage to our political system. And much of it is fascinating to watch. This clip has some "man on the street" interviews with various Dukakis and Bush supporters, then goes into a panel where the usual "nothing is worse than usual" talking points are cut through somewhat by the wonderful Barbara Jordan.

She probably also knows the attacks will be ramping up soon on whoever is the nominee, and Tulsi will be key to that attack. I see Andrew Yang is out there cheerleading for Tulsi. Just another reason I do not trust him.

Many have had this speculation about Tulsi. I'm surprised Hillary said it in such a public way, but I suppose she has nothing left to lose. The sad thing is if Tulsi does run third party, many on the left will actively support her.

I agree with Yang about the danger of automation, but I think he's much too willing to downplay prejudice and bigotry (his handling of the Shane Gillis fiasco on SNL rubbed me the wrong way). I also find his views on global warming - just move away from the water, it's too late - to be very glib. I find him overly glib in general. His cult following also alienates me.

That's a shame. Too many Democrats take black voters for granted.

I get the theory that Biden supporters might give up on him at the last minute, but between Buttigieg being gay, his age, and also not having Biden's folksy appeal, he has no real chance. (I'm not going to say lack of experience because I don't know if people care about that anymore) He's so popular with the media that I have a feeling he will end up being a pundit and not have any real role in any Dem administration. Klobuchar also doesn't seem likely to benefit from Biden's struggles, so I guess barring a curveball, his supporters will just stay with him even as he falls apart. Buttigieg could have a strong finish in Iowa, but the only problem there is many candidates surge in Iowa and then die afterward. I do wonder what South Carolina's role will be this year in the overall primary. I have a feeling Biden will win easily but this time it may be an outlier... Funny that we were talking about this when an article about Biden and the black vote pops up. https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/18/biden-black-women-voters-2020-048703

I swear I remember talk of Warren trying to appeal to black voters earlier this year. Either she's stopped, or the media has lost interest in the narrative.

This is from the UK, not here, but it's just another reason I'm wary of the Salvation Army.