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Good eye. I completely forgot about that whole Hugh story. Wasn't Hugh murdered? I never knew he was also in one of the more memorable Always Sunny episodes with fellow ABC soap alum Alexandra Daddario, as the rich [!@#$%^&*] who...loved to wrestle.

I didn't realize that Amelia Heinle was the original female lead in Jack & Jill (she was recast with Amanda Peet). The pilot was uploaded last year.

You can find a number of other videos on the channel showing moments from the Governors Awards.

This isn't on her credits, but it must be one of the final appearances of Doris Belack. You can see her a few minutes in and again at around 22 minutes.

I didn't think that was too bad, although I may be grading on a curve because of other memorials like Hal's that I found somewhat distasteful (mainly because they kept "joking" about how many children he had by various women). I wonder sometimes how much they avoid flashbacks in recent years because of how different they look to today's setup. Either that or they just didn't care about going through all the material.

The start of this has a Mike Douglas Show promo featuring John McCook and Victoria Mallory (no idea if that episode is around).

https://variety.com/2024/film/awards/sag-awards-nominations-2024-1235866459/ Not great SAG nominations, other than denying DiCaprio a vanity nomination and giving it to deserving names. If only they'd done the same with Cooper.

So true. Sadly many of those same people who could have used this clip (some of whom went on to write for soaps themselves) would likely say that failed camp and ludicrous plots are what soaps should be.

He was a fertility doctor they hinted at pairing with Marley.

@DramatistDreamer That's very true about Hal. (I can't remember if Ben Hendrickson was gay or not - that also may have been a factor) @Soapsuds Thanks. Never seen that news clip before. Given the other recent thread it's fitting to hear Marland talking about soaps being ashamed of themselves.

I do wonder if they transferred any of those qualities to Margo, unless they planned for an entire family of "loose" (as they used to say) women (and loose Craig). Then again once Anne Sward took over as Lyla, that side of her personality seemed to fade. Such a lost opportunity due to Helen Wagner being driven off ATWT as we never got to see Nancy react to Tom being with a woman with had been kept by James Stenbeck. (a few scenes for the wedding weren't going to cut it)

Unfortunately, finding a lot of that time frame is spotty. I've been impressed with what I have seen of how Hank was handled, especially given the era and P&G's conservative views and audience. We see explicit homophobia, but not done in a cartoonish manner, and they don't try to do what, say, AMC later did with Michael Delaney and make sure we know that he's a macho sports loving broski - through his run he remains closest to characters like Iva and Barbara, and on the outskirts of Oakdale. I do think it might have been more interesting if Hal had been homophobic (initially, anyway) instead of having him as accepting mostly to generate conflict between Paul and Hal.

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Corrie's been about the same (not very good/bad with occasional patches of OK) for a long time now - 15-20 years. There are producers like Kate Oates or Phil Collinson who get hype because they replaced producers who were not as charismatic or hyped, but their actual work was still horse [!@#$%^&*].

There's a bitter irony in P&G hiring the Dobsons to salvage GL because they still cared so much about keeping the show alive, yet the main reason most viewers will have ever seen the work of the Dobsons on GL is because P&G long stopped giving a damn about their soaps. By the time I got an Internet connection good enough to properly watch WOST, it was paywalled or mostly gone, so the first time I ever got to really watch their GL work was on Youtube through the ClassicGL channel. Those clips reignited my love for GL after the '90s and '00s had washed most of it away. The guy who did that channel has, sadly, been gone for over 15 years now, but still, the clips remain.

@Vee https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-rare-photographs-exclusive-newsupdate/ Some recently found photos of Katy Manning, Roger Delgado and Jon Pertwee taken on the set of The Mind of Evil, with some comments from Katy.

Thanks. January 8, 1986.

Thanks @soapfan770 although "harping on the same tune" makes me laugh for some reason. Soap fans know all about that.

You can see that really ossify in the '90s, with the reigns of people like JFP and Guza who so clearly hated soaps and wanted to make them more acceptable to their own standards. The industry had such a clear contempt for soaps - you can see that in so many TV shows and movies going back even to the '40s and '50s - but they were still able to have their own identity and didn't bow to the mass hatred until somewhere in the '80s and '90s. What bothers me the most is someone like Carlivati who is endlessly patted on the back for loving soaps, yet also treats them as a joke. At least Guza's failed ambitions were honest. I have a harder time getting part Ron turning so much of the end of OLTL into a wankfest for his endless self-parodies.

This reminds me of something from Star Trek - like the episode with Kathryn Hays. I do think the full closing theme is beautiful. The opening music, similar to ATWT's 93-00 opening, is just too sludgy and somber for me. The 83-85 music and visuals are great, unfortunately marred by how much the show is hollowed out in that time frame.

I would guess Jacqueline Jossa had other commitments and could only film a limited time. The choice to focus so much just on Penny unfortunately reinforced how trite and repetitive these "long lost bad girl relative" stories are (Dotty deja vu).

https://variety.com/2024/film/obituaries-people-news/cindy-morgan-dead-caddyshack-1235863303/ Very sad - she was apparently dead for a while before her roommate returned from a vacation and found her. Here was a post she made about her time on Falcon Crest. https://www.instagram.com/p/C0PO2g3OLjW/

The Loving Murders episodes have been taken down and reuploaded several times now. Someone reuploaded the two surrounding Cabot and Isabelle's murder (very tender scenes, even if I wish the dialogue wasn't so generic given the recent history of the characters). I had forgotten that their death happened in the same episode as Ally setting Danny up for rape. So unnecessarily crass to make this choice, or to tell the latter story at all (and if Amelia Heinle hadn't left they likely would have made Ally/Danny a couple...). It would probably be more obvious to audiences of today, overdosed on true crime, that Gwyneth was the killer, but Christine Tudor always sells the melodrama with her whole heart, to the point where you still want to lie to yourself just as she was.