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Thanks for tagging me @slick jones Warren was so warm and wonderful on Twin Peaks. Really wish Lindsay had stayed on ATWT a bit longer but it's a credit to her she did as much with Betsy post-Steve as she did.

Amazing news. Astonishing. Miraculous. Thanks @Vee for tagging me. I almost don't even want to believe it's true, because I don't want to get my hopes up. I can tell myself that at least they are considering a new soap, which is, I believe, the first time that's even been a possibility since Passions was created - almost 25 years! There have been trends leading here, especially the shift away from younger viewers being seen as the ideal, and presumably costs have come down enough to make a soap more viable, but I still never thought it would happen. I never hear anything about LMAD or TPiR (and that show used to be iconic to many), and The Talk you only hear about when people are leaving it, so if they want to have a soap that would be made at a good cost and potentially get more buzz, it might make sense. I've said on here before that the conversation I would see on Twitter about GH's Trina/Sprina and her family felt so organic, and so different from the weary, deeply cynical way we often have to deal with soaps in the last few decades. If someone sees that and decides to tap into the black audiences who were treated so cavalierly and disrespectfully by daytime in perpetual chasing of viewers who did not and would not ever care, it's long overdue. I always thought that P&G's efforts at integrating a number of their soaps, while not all they could have been, never got enough attention. It feels right if they finally take the steps they should have taken in more diversity as a mainstay. And I've always thought if basic care had been taken, GL and ATWT would still be on the air today. It feels right if a P&G soap is what rises from the ashes. I was and will always be a P&G boy, and I miss my P&G soaps every single day. I guess we'll see what happens. I do have a lot of respect for Michele Val Jean and I'm sure she will do whatever she can. I remember that somewhat ghoulish Entertainment Weekly article on the death of soaps, circa 2012 or so, with a drawing of a graveyard of soaps. They truly were on the brink of death at that time, and in many ways still are, but still, it leaves me satisfied that a decade later, we're still plugging, possibly one more on the way, as EW is barely hanging on as a horribly designed website coughing up the same gossip regurgitated from ten other places.

Polls also said Trump would lose in 2020, although he lost by less than they claimed. That's another thing I'm anxious over - he outperformed polling in two elections. On a positive note, the primary polling was also off for him in a number of states, but for the most part, I do think the polls can become a narrative and lead to a spiral. I saw Peter Welch, a senator from Vermont, parroting Nate Silver's line that Biden was hurt by not doing a Super Bowl interview. That's another example of the narrative becoming reality. I do hope that Democrats overperforming polling in 2022 is a sign for this year, but when so many people, in the press and in life, worship Trump as a god (the way so many Republicans and dead end leftists claimed Obama was worshipped, which was never true), it starts to feel like he just sails through unless you have a situation like 2020 with so many things breaking the other way.

There have been a few polls going around with this result that keep getting trumpeted everywhere.

I do wonder if some people have gotten amnesia over the last four years. I don't trust polls but any time I see them with people insisting their lives were so much better when he was President, I get wary. This seems to happen any time a Democrat has to clean up the mess of his predecessor.

I saw a tweet earlier where someone said they thought she assumed Mark Kelly would lose in 2022 and that would chart her whole course. It didn't happen. This is going to be very close (Lake almost won the gubernatorial race in what may have been a much better year for Democrats than 2024 might be), so I guess at least she didn't stay in as a spoiler. Meanwhile, the pundits are already pointing out Minnesota and not saying a word about this.

Thanks!

I think Sheffer's idea of soap was just too cynical and dark to fit veteran characters. I still remember great choices like having Jessica and Margo, longtime close friends, fight over a man - this not long after Jessica had been raped. I will credit Goutman with not dumping vets for quick cash. That's better than many managed. If we get into the realm of spent characters, a character like Lily felt more spent to me in ATWT's last decade than Bob or Kim, but then I wasn't writing the show...

Marley. Vicky, Vicky. Marley. Marley, Vicky.

I think even with the greatest writers in all of history there are also inevitable limitations with soaps today and networks today. I wish them the best but I'm not going to expect anything. I still wince at what happened when the Labines went to OLTL and GL.

Thanks @te. . I don't think I remember this (or if I do it might have just been a mention here years ago). At least it gave Maree some work for a while.

That was the first Liz, Jane House. I wonder how fans felt about the replacement actress.

Lauren from Cheshire will be on Celebrity Big Brother. https://deadline.com/2024/03/celebrity-big-brother-uk-cast-2024-itv-1235845239/

There are so many interesting dynamics I wish we could see with the Hughes family in the '50s which seem to upend some of the usual tropes, like Nancy's bitterness toward Penny because of Susan's death, or how Grandpa sacrificing to make sure Chris got the education had a negative impact on his siblings which seemed to carry through the rest of their lives. The dynamics with Grandpa, who seems so calm and even-keeled, and Nancy or the family at large also interest me.

Brutally Honest Oscar Ballot No. 1: 'Zone of Interest' Is Best Picture, but Nolan Is Best Director (hollywoodreporter.com)

Yes.

I was joking because JFP would not stop having men playing pick up basketball games in "men only" episodes of her soaps in these years (AW, GL).

I can see where he might have thought fans would understand Aaron wasn't in his right mind and would give him a chance, but Aaron has always been a divisive character and Miller's peak of popularity was well over a decade ago. His initial return was horribly written. I do feel bad for him in that some people were fat-shaming him, which is why he left Twitter, but fans who are just sick of Aaron as a character have plenty of grounds to feel that way.

@AbcNbc247 @Vee Thanks for that promo. It's as funny as ever. I'd forgotten how funny. The actors awkwardly trying to give a sexy closeup to the camera, David Andrew Macdonald vibing, Eric Morgan Stuart trying to rock the one-shoulder overall look that never really works, the pick-up basketball game that must have made JFP weep with pride, etc. I had forgotten Steve Richard Harris was still there. A very pretty man but never a lot else going on in the acting department...but he is still working, so what do I know?

I had assumed the last Dawn was popular with fans, although someone left a comment on that promo saying the character never worked after the first Dawn was fired, so I don't know.

Interesting promo. Not much longer for Dawn...

I had never seen that photo before, so the sight of Kin Shriner way way at the back, able to be edited out at any time before the next tweet about how he's truly done at GH this time, amuses me.