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#1 allmc2008

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:49 PM

I am wondering were I can find him saying he is going to Train us.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 05:39 AM

That sounds familiar.    Wasn't that something to do with Marcie on OLTL?


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:35 AM

That sounds familiar.    Wasn't that something to do with Marcie on OLTL?

I am talking about him "Training the Viewers to like his vision" or something. They say that was in an article about him or an interview.


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#4 Antoyne

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

Google.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:00 AM

Google.

lol...you are my type of person. Thats the first thing I thought to post when I first saw this thread last night

Edited by Cheap21, 25 January 2013 - 10:00 AM.

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#6 JackPeyton

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:25 AM

http://bit.ly/WqVvdv
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#7 allmc2008

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:28 PM

http://bit.ly/WqVvdv

 

 

lol...you are my type of person. Thats the first thing I thought to post when I first saw this thread last night

 

 

Google.

I tried and could not find the article.  I thought SON may have it somewhere.


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#8 dragonflies

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:52 PM

It's actually not that easy to find.....

 

Yeah I think was in regards to something about Marcie on OLTL


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:14 PM

I Rouen it on google this morning but its on my desktop and I'm on my ipad. When I get back on my comp ill post it. But I found it on the first page of that google search I posted
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

 I'm so glad Frons is no longer the head of ABC Daytime. This cannot be said enough.


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:18 PM

The Marcie comment was different, something along the lines of her being fat, and he didn't think people would want to watch versions of themselves on television, thereby, insulting the actress by calling her fat, and insulting the audience by assuming they all were fat.

I believe "train the viewers" to enjoy the new versions of the soaps based on primetime hits like "Sex in the City" was from an interview done on abc.com
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:24 PM

I'd forgotten this [!@#$%^&*].

 

 

 

"Kathy Brier, a marvelous actress, has an incredible voice and is not beautiful, is overweight and the audience has just embraced her, because she is not perfect like everybody else," Frons once stated.


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#13 Cheap21

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:26 PM

The Marcie comment was different, something along the lines of her being fat, and he didn't think people would want to watch versions of themselves on television, thereby, insulting the actress by calling her fat, and insulting the audience by assuming they all were fat.

I believe "train the viewers" to enjoy the new versions of the soaps based on primetime hits like "Sex in the City" was from an interview done on abc.com

That comment has been repeated and twisted so many times and very misconstrued. He said Marcie wasnt beautiful and overweight but that wasnt suposed to be a dig t bc Kathy Brier isnt the typical image of beauty on TV. Thats a fact. She isnt the stick figure, model that Hollywood and the media glamorize and Frons was trying to emphasize that  OLTL  was doing something different by their casting choice and utilizing a full figured unconventional soap star, whom the audience  took well to. He may not have used the right words to articulate his point but he definetly got misinterpreted. That comment was taken way out of context and I think Kathy even understood where he was coming from and the point he was trying to make


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:43 PM

That comment has been repeated and twisted so many times and very misconstrued. He said Marcie wasnt beautiful and overweight but that wasnt suposed to be a dig t bc Kathy Brier isnt the typical image of beauty on TV. Thats a fact. She isnt the stick figure, model that Hollywood and the media glamorize and Frons was trying to emphasize that  OLTL  was doing something different by their casting choice and utilizing a full figured unconventional soap star, whom the audience  took well to. He may not have used the right words to articulate his point but he definetly got misinterpreted. That comment was taken way out of context and I think Kathy even understood where he was coming from and the point he was trying to make


Yeah, I don't give Frons any kind of credit - he shouldn't have had the job he had if he wasn't able to speak to the press in ways that could be easily misinterpreted. The man had no tact. I'm not overweight, but for some reason overweight people can still be openly targeted.
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Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:53 PM

Yeah, I don't give Frons any kind of credit - he shouldn't have had the job he had if he wasn't able to speak to the press in ways that could be easily misinterpreted. The man had no tact. I'm not overweight, but for some reason overweight people can still be openly targeted.

One of Marcie's storylines at the time was dealing with the fact that she was overweight and struggling with insecurities about her image, which was why she latched onto Jen and kept comparing herself to her and feeling miserable bc she couldnt be beautiful as her. Frons was speaking about what was going on with the character and I didnt see anything wrong addressing that. The show wasnt pretending that she wasnt fat. It was clearly written into the script and they were trying to tell a message with it, which concluded with Marcie accepting herself as Al fell in love with her and accepted her for who she was, flaws and all


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:15 PM

One of Marcie's storylines at the time was dealing with the fact that she was overweight and struggling with insecurities about her image, which was why she latched onto Jen and kept comparing herself to her and feeling miserable bc she couldnt be beautiful as her. Frons was speaking about what was going on with the character and I didnt see anything wrong addressing that. The show wasnt pretending that she wasnt fat. It was clearly written into the script and they were trying to tell a message with it, which concluded with Marcie accepting herself as Al fell in love with her and accepted her for who she was, flaws and all


I get what you are saying, and you are saying it far better than Frons. Besides the overweight comment, he outright described an actress in his line-up as ugly, which you don't do, and linked it to her weight. Frons wasn't good at his job for many reasons, and his attempts at PR were horrid. I just can't give him the credit that you do, and I'm surprised that he didn't make an even more crass comment. He shouldn't have been allowed to speak with the press unsupervised.

Edited by EnglishTea, 27 January 2013 - 09:15 PM.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 10:42 PM

 I'm so glad Frons is no longer the head of ABC Daytime. This cannot be said enough.

 

No it can't.


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#18 dragonflies

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:59 AM

He also said something similar in regards to Genie Francis that no one wants to see an overweight middle aged woman on tv

 

 

 

RE: KB There was no need for him to even mention her weight and I disagree she is beautiful

 

Anyone ever see the comment from Guza where he said he'd write whatever he wanted and didn't want the fans telling him what to write. that whatever people wanted he'd basically write the opposite of nbe.jpg


Edited by dragonflies, 28 January 2013 - 05:00 AM.

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#19 VirginiaHamilton

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:53 AM

Anyone ever see the comment from Guza where he said he'd write whatever he wanted and didn't want the fans telling him what to write. that whatever people wanted he'd basically write the opposite of nbe.jpg

 

Was that before or after his partner in crime proclaimed that no one wanted to see Bobbie Spencer or any other woman over 50 have sexytimes on soaps? 


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#20 dragonflies

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 07:33 PM

This was like about 10 years ago


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