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#61 Saving ATWT

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 05:12 AM

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Jess Walton's face looked pretty stiff about six months ago. It wore off and that is a good thing. I think she has had some work done. MTS needs to do something...STAT. She must be the same age as the actress who plays Ashley but looks 15 years older; and, woo, what is up with that hair?

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*Eileen Fulton (Lisa)has wrecked her face on World Turns. She needs to chill with the needle and thread.
*Maura West (Carly)has had to much botox shot into her brow. She has aged poorly but, after a litter of 5 kids, who can blame her.
*Jon Hensley (Holden) looks like her has had some work done.
*Julie Pinson (Janet) needs a new wig.
*Roger Howarth (Paul) looks like he has had some type of chemical treatment--shin is too shiny.

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*Hunter Tylo (Taylor) has ruined her face. She has had a hard time so maybe this was her way of acting out.
*Brooke Logan (insert name) is great! She seems to have had no work done and is just aging naturally. Pretty soon she will like like Susan Flannery circa 1990 minus 30 pounds)
* Eric Forrester (insert name) needs to get that double-chin fixed. It looks like a change purse!
*Susan Flannery (Stephanie) needs a wig! She makes Sally Spectra in look HOT!
Donna (insert name) looks like BBQ Barbie.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 05:15 AM

That is medically untrue. I dated a Doc and he said the healing thing was all propaganda from the STOP SMOKING LOBBY. Same as the adverts on TV that talk about loosing fingers and toes from smoking. Diabetic smokers (and non-smokers) have these problems. If anything, the decrease in capillary size reduces bleeding. With that said, smoking sucks and is bad. Also, there is only a tiny chance of smoking- related issues regarding anesthesia and this is especially true with a younger or light smoker.

Lesson: Avoid health tips from 90210


Excuse me, but that's Doctor 90210. :P

Well, I also read a book where a doctor said it was okay to smoke until you were about thirty and still get away scot-free. I don't think that's exactly responsible advice from a physician, regardless of his opinions or data.

A quick Google search will show that there is conflicting evidence on the subject, but the majority of controlled scientific case studies have found that smoking can impede wound healing leaving patients with darker, more noticeable scarring.

More lifted ladies:

Susan Flannery, Constance Towers, Marj Dusay...

Edited by SFK, 26 January 2010 - 05:16 AM.

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#63 Sylph

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 05:15 AM

For once Sylph and I are in 100% agreement ;) I know it's almost a necesary evil, and it has made me appreciate even examples like Lucci which haven't gone Meg Ryan/Lisa Rinna/Hunter Tyler insane, but it's something I honestly don't really get. I guess though I do have different standards--I admit I barely think of facelifts as plastic surgery anymore--it was funny in All Her Children (yes I'm mentioning my fave book again :wub:) when they explain how the actress who played Margo is getting a facelift and they feel the need to explain what that even means--this is 1976 and I have to admit the surgery seems so normal to me that I barely think of it as corrective surgery.


There is a futurologist, I am forgetting his name, who says that in forgetting again how many years rich people will turn into a separate species, a sort of cyborgs, "enhanced" human beings. Biotechnology, medicine and robotic engineering and rich people's fortresses loaded with money will allow them to have organ transplants, to freeze themselves, not to age and so on... I think the guy even said that artificial limbs will be better than the real, natural ones.

Scary. Will it happen? I don't know, I know it sounds "out there", too extreme, but it's food for thought.

Edited by Sylph, 26 January 2010 - 05:25 AM.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 05:23 AM

*Maura West (Carly)has had to much botox shot into her brow. She has aged poorly but, after a litter of 5 kids, who can blame her.
*Julie Pinson (Janet) needs a new wig.
*Susan Flannery (Stephanie) needs a wig! She makes Sally Spectra in look HOT!
Donna (insert name) looks like BBQ Barbie.

I agree about Maura.

Julie doesnt wear a wig, last i had heard anyways that red thing was her real hair.

I love that Flannery is real. No need for a wig. The hair cutting scene was brilliant. And i dont think Stephanie is suposed to be someone who is overly sexy.

You are so right about Donna.
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#65 Sylph

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 05:24 AM

I am all for plastic surgery but I think one should wait until after 50 before getting a face lift. So many of these actresses seem to be getting them at 36 and wind up looking like freaks.

My all time fave is Tina Turner. She's 70 and looks awesome.


I think that looks absolutely disastrous. A woman who is 70 looking 30, 40, 50 years younger is horrendous. It messes up things. Whereas in the past fashion & beauty magazines talked about clothes, make-up and cosmetic and the latest trends in each separate category, today they talk about how a modern face looks.:mellow: Meaning, if your cheeks aren't of certain shape, if your nose looks like this, if your forehead has one too many wrinkles, if your lips aren't "full" enough... You're an old, "obsolete" human who looks terrible. Natural is terrible, artifical is — splendor of splendors of the bestest best of best looks. :ph34r:

People age, it is called biology, when a first cell of a human being is created in a mother's womb, it starts to die. It is absolutely scary, at the same time, to see 70-year old women looking 30 and teenage, high-school girls looking like grown-up women (full boobs, shape of the face and the whole body, secondary sex characteristics etc.). :wacko:

That does not mean that one should take care of the skin. Skin is the most sensitive human organ, your first protective barrier from the threats of the outer world, and just like visiting a dentist as soon as the first teeth appear, one needs to have a dermatologist. Absolutely. Everyone.

So as I said yes to lasers and certain other types of interventions, but no to injecting, implanting, filling and so on.

My opinion. :)

And DaytimeFan hasn't replied to my question about lasers — did I get the all right? :)

Edited by Sylph, 26 January 2010 - 05:32 AM.

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#66 DRW50

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 05:28 AM

Susan wore a wig for years but stopped ten or more years ago. I think she was probably right to do so, as the days of Stephanie as any sort of glamorous figure were long over, and the natural hair and the pants suits make her more comfortable and she can just focus on her performance.

Edited by CarlD2, 26 January 2010 - 05:29 AM.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 05:30 AM

Susan wore a wig for years but stopped ten or more years ago. I think she was probably right to do so, as the days of Stephanie as any sort of glamorous figure were long over, and the natural hair and the pants suits make her more comfortable and she can just focus on her performance.


She doesn't perform these days. She just walks around LA, with no sense of dramatic movement and acting, just sleepwalking through most of her scenes.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 05:36 AM

And another thing which I always found funny... Is that some of these dermatologists and plastic surgeons look :blink:.

Take a look at Dr Frederic Brandt (called the Baron of Botox or the King of Collagen, charges around $7,000 for a full face of injections):

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Or Dr Frank Ryan:

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#69 UKBoi

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 06:23 AM

Frank Ryan is the guy that did Heidi Montag's surgeries, right?
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 06:29 AM

Frank Ryan is the guy that did Heidi Montag's surgeries, right?


Yes.

He has buckets of top-notch clients.

DaytimeFan is a huuuuuge fan.:D

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 06:40 AM

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*Hunter Tylo (Taylor) has ruined her face. She has had a hard time so maybe this was her way of acting out.
*Brooke Logan (insert name) is great! She seems to have had no work done and is just aging naturally. Pretty soon she will like like Susan Flannery circa 1990 minus 30 pounds)
Donna (insert name) looks like BBQ Barbie.


Hunter Tylo used to be absolutely stunning. Definitely one of the most beautiful women in the world. Seeing her now is so sad.
Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke) has definitely had some work done but on a much smaller scale. I remember when she did something to her lips and looked awful for a while. But thankfully she had the good sense to realize it looked bad and stopped. I wish some other people had been as smart.
Jennifer Gareis (Donna) just looks fake. Plastic is the only word that can be used to describe her.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 07:06 AM

Jennifer Gareis, I suspect has had tons done, to the point where she probably looks quite different from when she was a teenager. Putting aside her hair color, body and breasts (which are obviously implants), I'd say her teeth are new, so is the mouth, her nose has been completely reshaped and I'd even hazard a guess at her cheeks. It does suit the character of Donna, though.

Maura West looks like an old school movie star to me, but I think it is clear that she's on familiar terms with her botox doctor. Her lips have also been collagened, I'd say. Maybe an eye-lift.

Jacqueline MacInnes Wood MUST have had work done -- lips, cheeks, an eye-lift even. Her eyebrows have been tarred, from the looks of things. It's such a shame because she is so young and when she first joined the show, she was amazingly naturally beautiful with her rosey cheeks and chestnut hair. Maybe Hunter Tylo passed on her surgeons name? If so, she should be sued!

Ronn Moss has great genetics but also a chin and neck tuck, an eye lift and some botox.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 07:21 AM

There was an actress named Lynne Perrie on the British soap, Coronation Street. She played a downtrodden, extremely conservative character, but she was nothing like that off the set. She had supposedly had several procedures done, but when she came back in early 1994 with big fake lips, the producers finally had enough. They wrote her out to see if her appearance would go back to normal. It did not, so they killed her character, offcamera.

Here's an infamous talk show appearance from Lynne, drunk as a skunk/flirting with her former onscreen son/singing karaoke, the same year she was fired from Corrie. But her lips don't look too bad, so that's something.



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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:18 AM

Damn, Carl. Talk about a public meltdown!
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:23 AM

I know. You don't know whether to laugh or cringe. It made some of the "Biggest public meltdown" lists over there a few years ago. I posted it because it's the only time I remember someone directly being fired from a soap because of plastic surgery mishaps.

Lynne also made a parody of an exercise video where she sat around drinking champagne and ogling half-naked hunks. :lol: I wish she'd met Brenda Dickson.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:36 AM

Lynne also made a parody of an exercise video where she sat around drinking champagne and ogling half-naked hunks. :lol: I wish she'd met Brenda Dickson.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: And I just did a search for that video on YouTube but sadly nobody has posted it.

I remember The Word, which was trashtastically awesome. They also had the great bands of the day performing live, including Kurt Cobain and Nirvana.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:43 AM

Not technically daytime, but she was a Santa Barbara fill-in...

DaytimeFan, in your own expertise, do you believe Tea Leoni has had plastic surgery or bo, despite the fact that she vehemently denies ever having any and says she'll never get it?


Tea Leoni has had lots of little tweaks over the years. Very conservative non surgical things. Peels, lasers, a little Botox and fillers. She looks really fresh.

Oh man, Heather. I like the nuMP, but her first episodes back were kinda jarring. Her face barely moves and her speech is off too. She just doesn't deliver her lines the way she used to. I thought maybe she was still healing or something.


Heather's Botox radiated into her mouth, which really made her look 'off'...she started to look better as her episodes went on and it seems, from previews at least, that she's back to her old self. We'll just have to see. Heather's done some filler work that didn't look good. It wore off of course, but for a while there, icky.

I think LK looks fake. I dont know if shes had surgery or not. But it looks like she has. However, thats on the show. IRL i think she looks great. So its prob the makeup on the show.

Suzanne Rogers looks great. Im sure shes had some minor stuff, but she pulled it off well.


I never understand the criticism of Lauren Koslow, she looks amazing. Her face still has expression, is firm and smooth. What more could you ask for?

Suzanne Rogers has had a facelift and eye work...but she has likely not had Botox because it could potentially interfere with her myasthenia gravis, which has been in remission for years (and I hope it stays that way, rock on Suzanne!)

That is medically untrue. I dated a Doc and he said the healing thing was all propaganda from the STOP SMOKING LOBBY. Same as the adverts on TV that talk about loosing fingers and toes from smoking. Diabetic smokers (and non-smokers) have these problems. If anything, the decrease in capillary size reduces bleeding. With that said, smoking sucks and is bad. Also, there is only a tiny chance of smoking- related issues regarding anesthesia and this is especially true with a younger or light smoker.

Lesson: Avoid health tips from 90210


That is utter nonsense. Smoking before and after surgery impairs wound healing by dramatically increasing inflammation in the body which, in turn, dramatically reduces the production of collagen and elastin, the building blocks for healthy skin. Capillary size is essential in encouraging the newly positioned skin to behave in a healthy way.

Smoking is the worst thing you can do for your health. If you smoke, do yourself a favour and quit.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:55 AM

It's just awful, terrible! I am kind of pro stuff like lasers (Pearl skin rejuvenation, texture and pigmentation, sun damage removal; IPL can, for example, reduce pore size, treat scars, diminish wrinkles [I don't know in what amount]; there is Pulsed Dye, which removes birthmarks, treats acne and stretchmarks; YAG reduces spider veins; then there's TITAN... They can also remove excessive body hair, tattoos...) but very much against any cutting, injecting, implanting... Anything invasive. :)


You got some of it right.

Pearl is a fancy name for a fraxelated laser. Fraxel treatments give the benefits of a harsh, ablative, laser without the downtime with the catch that you have to do 4 or so sessions to achieve your results. IPL is a very trustworthy procedure, it isn't a laser, it's a light spectrum device that works by coloured spectrums of light. It does a wonderful job reducing redness, the symptoms of rosacea, sun damage and fine wrinkling, it too takes 4 or so sessions. Pulsed Dye is non ablative and is the gold standard for surfaced blood vessels and some birth marks. Pulsed Dye lasers are not appropriate for acne or stretchmarks. Stretchmarks are notoriously difficult to treat because they are based off broken elastin fibers, I'd likely try Fraxel before anything else. Erbium YAG lasers are old but still good and yes they work well for hair removal, not so well on veins, I'd go with IPL or Pulsed Dye for that. The TITAN procedure is similar to Thermage in that it heats up the dermis so that new collagen will be formed and the skin will develop a tighter appearance. I think the jury is still out on TITAN and Thermage, they work well on some and they don't work at all for others, which isn't the kind of success profile I'd suggest for anyone.

And yes, Dr Frank Ryan is someone I greatly admire. His work on Heidi aged her, but she asked for it and the whole "10 procedures" thing is nonsense, it was more like 4 surgical procedures and then a bunch of non surgical tweaks. She really shouldn't have gone out and publicized herself, her face is still healing and quite swollen by my estimate. Frank does everyone, you'd really be surprised at how extensive his client list is.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 10:07 AM

You got some of it right.

Pearl is a fancy name for a fraxelated laser. Fraxel treatments give the benefits of a harsh, ablative, laser without the downtime with the catch that you have to do 4 or so sessions to achieve your results. IPL is a very trustworthy procedure, it isn't a laser, it's a light spectrum device that works by coloured spectrums of light. It does a wonderful job reducing redness, the symptoms of rosacea, sun damage and fine wrinkling, it too takes 4 or so sessions. Pulsed Dye is non ablative and is the gold standard for surfaced blood vessels and some birth marks. Pulsed Dye lasers are not appropriate for acne or stretchmarks. Stretchmarks are notoriously difficult to treat because they are based off broken elastin fibers, I'd likely try Fraxel before anything else. Erbium YAG lasers are old but still good and yes they work well for hair removal, not so well on veins, I'd go with IPL or Pulsed Dye for that. The TITAN procedure is similar to Thermage in that it heats up the dermis so that new collagen will be formed and the skin will develop a tighter appearance. I think the jury is still out on TITAN and Thermage, they work well on some and they don't work at all for others, which isn't the kind of success profile I'd suggest for anyone.


Well, I said stuff like lasers, meaning resembling but might not be lasers. And what you said is in a stark contrast to what some other dermatologist use these things for. It seems as if these lasers are actually toys for dermatologists to play with, each one has it's own preference.

Type, e.g., YAG spider veins into Google and you'll see it's used. Wiki on stretchmarks mentions how a journal Dermatologic Surgery says that Pulsed Dye treatment gave "good and very good" subjective improvement in stretch marks in 33 of 37 patients.

A mess!

And yes, Dr Frank Ryan is someone I greatly admire. His work on Heidi aged her, but she asked for it and the whole "10 procedures" thing is nonsense, it was more like 4 surgical procedures and then a bunch of non surgical tweaks. She really shouldn't have gone out and publicized herself, her face is still healing and quite swollen by my estimate. Frank does everyone, you'd really be surprised at how extensive his client list is.


I don't like his work. His website SCREAMS! kitsch and no-taste!

Edited by Sylph, 26 January 2010 - 10:13 AM.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 10:21 AM

What about Marcia Cross? I loved her on Melrose, but she does little for me on DH. The Botox is one reason. She seems incapable of moving her face.


Marcia is a client of one of the two doctors I mentioned. I don't know if it's allowed to say, DaytimeFan will know if it is.

LOTS of men in daytime have had work done. LOTS. Many more than you'd think, throw out a name, I'll give you my thoughts.

A bad facelift on a man is the worst. Michael Douglas has had at least 2 and Jon Voight looks awful after his.


I would like to know which ones do you consider dermatological & surgical success stories and which ones are downright disastrous examples?

Shame this is only meant for soap stars, I'm much more insterested in film people. :D
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